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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Thora
Then I will set out on a quest for an alter ego of my own to reply. |
This should be fun. I'm on your side.
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Paula
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Thora
I am NOT Nancy Conroy!
My intent is to bring the good news to those who live, want to live or need to know more to seriously consider moving to Baja. I am avoiding
controversy (at least until I get established) so probably will not be employing Nancy (sorry Nancy), especially after the words she used to describe
this type of publication..."crap" was the most kind...as she told me I would fail completely (put far more colorfully, I assure you).
I will pay contributors what I can afford to while I am enduring and trying to survive a tough economy and even tougher media attention. Anyone
interested in contributing, please contact me so we can see what we can work out.
Taco tourists can sometimes become lifelong Baja supporters and bring those that DO have the $ to invest. We need all kinds. The money will come. Baja
is too beautiful to not become a flourishing retirement and tourism destination when things turn around north of the border. |
Thora, I don't know how you can avoid controversy while promoting a "flourishing retirement and tourism destination" on a small dessert peninsula with
a shortage of water and infrastructure to support the big money development you seem to be proposing. While selling advertising space to large scale
developers will you be publishing thoughtful articles on how this scale of development can be achieved without negative impact on a fragile
environment? Will you be researching and discussing the impact-- both positive and negative-- that these developments will have
on local populations and traditional culture? Will you as editor raise the tough questions that need to be answered before this land sinks under the
weight of cinder block, cement, and over-fed humans pouring across the border from the north to take advantage of the low cost high life?
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bajajudy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
Here's my contribution.
In the background, which resembles a bombed out German city in "45, is the Loreto Bay settlement.
[Edited on 9-18-2008 by vandenberg] |
Ed you are looking good, buddy.
And what a lovely setting
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dtbushpilot
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paula
| Quote: | Originally posted by Thora
I am NOT Nancy Conroy!
My intent is to bring the good news to those who live, want to live or need to know more to seriously consider moving to Baja. I am avoiding
controversy (at least until I get established) so probably will not be employing Nancy (sorry Nancy), especially after the words she used to describe
this type of publication..."crap" was the most kind...as she told me I would fail completely (put far more colorfully, I assure you).
I will pay contributors what I can afford to while I am enduring and trying to survive a tough economy and even tougher media attention. Anyone
interested in contributing, please contact me so we can see what we can work out.
Taco tourists can sometimes become lifelong Baja supporters and bring those that DO have the $ to invest. We need all kinds. The money will come. Baja
is too beautiful to not become a flourishing retirement and tourism destination when things turn around north of the border. |
Thora, I don't know how you can avoid controversy while promoting a "flourishing retirement and tourism destination" on a small dessert peninsula with
a shortage of water and infrastructure to support the big money development you seem to be proposing. While selling advertising space to large scale
developers will you be publishing thoughtful articles on how this scale of development can be achieved without negative impact on a fragile
environment? Will you be researching and discussing the impact-- both positive and negative-- that these developments will have
on local populations and traditional culture? Will you as editor raise the tough questions that need to be answered before this land sinks under the
weight of cinder block, cement, and over-fed humans pouring across the border from the north to take advantage of the low cost high life?
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Here we go.....think I'll grab some popcorn and a beer  ....dt
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Thora
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We'll address it all in time, as diplomatically and intelligently as possible, while still maintaining a publishing business. I welcome controversial
letters and articles regarding development and other issues to be considered for publication.....Paula and anyone else who feels a yearning to be
heard. There may, however, be a better venue, as we only publish every 2 months and local newspapers publish more frequently and are more willing to
be a platform for controversial issues to be bantered or discussed in print.
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Thora
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Yoga
sounds just what the doctor ordered! On what beach do I sign up?
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Paula
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Yoga tours?!? I love it! And it has me thinking of magazine possibilities*.... like maybe Bajabeachyoga Journal, or Baja Buddhist: Live Simply So
That Others May Simply Live.
*This is not to make fun of any other Baja magazines, real or imagined, the opening was just too good
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KAT54
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"In all honesty, I need most help with ad sales so we can keep publishing"
"I will pay contributors what I can afford to while I am enduring and trying to survive a tough economy "
So in other words you expect to charge thousands for advertising but may not survive the future.
Do you have a current printing already out on the newstands or is the PDF file your only magazine?
It seems here you are asking for posters to give you their experiences for free.
You documentation online says "help our economy in Baja" but i see on the internet you are living in Visalia Calif.
I really can not believe you are asking these fine people for pictures and experiences for free and you will reap the profits in Calif.
Do you know what a profesional writer gets for writing an article for a magazine?
Are you will to pay Union Wages?
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Skeet/Loreto
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Thora:
You may use any story that I have written on this Board without any Charge whatsoever!
I will send stories to you that are all Factual! not BS!, I will try very hard not to call the Liberal Nuts "Nuts" because they say the the Sea of
Cortez is Ruined, . Best fishing in 20 years!
I will gladly give my stories of the 38 years of living anf fishin the Sea of Cortez.
One thing is expected:
ALWAYS PRINT THE TRUTH WITH OUT SPIN.\\
Skeet/Loreto
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woody with a view
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skeet, you're too easy.
charge her a trunk load of clothes for the kids in Constitution. it's the least she can do for 38 years worth of stories....
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Thora
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Thanks, Skeet, and Woody's right. That I can do! One carload of clothes! Let me know where the Const. is.
I joined this forum to advertise for some legitimate help with ad sales, writing and photography. The magazine has 4 (bimonthly) issues out from Baja
to Canada. I have traded and paid out far more than I have made (zip). I do not have the time (nor inclination) to defend myself against those who
think I am in it just for the money (Kat) and who have no understanding of how tough the publishing business is...especially now and in Baja.
I would like to know where those "thousands" from the developers are to be had. You bring them in and I'll be only too happy to pay what my writers
and photographers are really worth. Bless them for seeing my vision and helping me move my family to Baja so I can get my son a bilingual/bicultural
lifestyle with better community values. I can only spend so much time in Baja away from them until this magazines pays for itself. So far I have
donated thousands of my own dollars and thousands of my personal hours just to promote Baja in hopes that there will be a payoff.
"Do you know what a profesional writer gets for writing an article for a magazine?" Well, Kat, it depends on the writer, the magazine and the economy.
Do YOU know?
"Are you will to pay Union Wages?" If you are in the writers' union, you don't need me to hire you...you're doing ok on your own!
Thanks for whatever positive input and ideas anyone can send me. I don't have room for "negative nancys" in my struggle to thrive.
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DENNIS
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Paula's question needs to be answered.
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Shark18
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| Quote: | Originally posted by whalemeat
We need more promotion in a positive light and less negative energy which kat seems to have a abundance of. |
You're right! I was thinking of doing an article on which Baja California town mayor has the cutest armed bodyguards and the most elegant armored car
convoy to travel around in. Do you think I can get the centerfold location for a photo montage?
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
Is it going to be like the Sea of Cortez Review, or Baja life both Magazines from the past and both very well done. |
Baja Life is still publishing... Baja Nomad member 'Rockman' (Norm C) recently had an excellent article in it!
http://www.bajalifemag.com
[Edited on 9-19-2008 by David K]
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BajaGeoff
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So Kat54....curiosity is getting the best of me...what do you do for a living? You seem awfully determined to berate someone who has the guts to start
their own small business and create a very nice magazine about the place they love and are passionate about.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGeoff
You seem awfully determined to berate someone who has the guts to start their own small business and create a very nice magazine about the place they
love and are passionate about. |
Wait a minute, Geoff.... She didn't berate anybody. She asked legit questions. They deserve legit answers.
Where did she berate?
Sorry Kat....I just assumed you were a she. Correct me if I'm wrong.
[Edited on 9-19-2008 by DENNIS]
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BajaGeoff
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Well.....the questions in Kat's last post were definitely legit, but the tone and comments mixed in with the questions were sarcastic and accusatory.
That is how it came across to me.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGeoff
Well.....the questions in Kat's last post were definitely legit, but the tone and comments mixed in with the questions were sarcastic and accusatory.
That is how it came across to me. |
You have a vested interest, if only friendship and Kat's questions were nothing but that, questions.
Tone and comment? What does that mean? I didn't see any obtuse tone or comment mixed with the questions. They were questions at most. Kat is
allowed that. Is it possible that your friends here are above question? let me know what you think about that.
In fact....Let the world know.
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Paula
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Thora
I would like to know where those "thousands" from the developers are to be had. You bring them in and I'll be only too happy to pay what my writers
and photographers are really worth. Bless them for seeing my vision and helping me move my family to Baja so I can get my son a bilingual/bicultural
lifestyle with better community values. I can only spend so much time in Baja away from them until this magazines pays for itself. So far I have
donated thousands of my own dollars and thousands of my personal hours just to promote Baja in hopes that there will be a payoff.
Thanks for whatever positive input and ideas anyone can send me. I don't have room for "negative nancys" in my struggle to thrive.
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This is not Thora's whole post. I edited it for clarity in addressing the part that is meaningful to me.
Thora, I think you used the word "donated" here when "invested" would have been the better choice. A donation is a gift to a cause, person or
organization with no expectation of personal return. You invested in a business venture to achieve a personal goal. It matters not to me that you
are asking for volunteer contributions because I am neither a writer or a photographer, and really I wish you luck in your goal of moving to Baja, but
I have reservations about your means of getting here.
I guess I'm feeling a little touchy right now, as I entered into this thread after reading this one: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=33891. This is personal to me. Ensenada Blanca is one of my favorite places on earth. I've
passed many days enjoying the unspoiled beauty of this area. I know that local folk as well as tourists have used this beach for a long time,
spending an hour or a day or several weeks, then moving on and leaving it for those who come after. The development taking place now will change this
forever. One beach after another in this area is being lost to ordinary people, as "investors" take over. San Bruno. Nopolo. Puerto Escondido.
Ensenada Blanca. So I guess I'll just have to cast myself as one of your "negative Nancys".
This is just the way I feel. I hope not to start another tedious discussion about development vs. preservation. I really try to stay out of these
discussions, I know my views are controversial, but every now and again I just can't stay silent.
And really Thora, I hope you find a way to come live in this beautiful place-- if you can accept it as it is, and for what it is, and most of all for
what it isn't.
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DENNIS
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If that wasn't a showpiece of compassion, nothing ever will be.
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