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longlegsinlapaz
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SEMERNAT advised me the EIS laws have been in place for quite some time; PROFEPA's stringent enforcement of violations, however is a much more recent
development.
Since SEMERNAT is a Federal agency, that would convey to me that the laws apply for ALL of Mexico, with some degree of fluidity, of course, depending
on local enforcement, which is why I recommended Slimshady get answers to his questions in writing!
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Russ
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I agree with you longlegsinlapaz. However it has been reported to me SEMERNAT has "improved" their process for those, like myself and others in Punta
Chivato. Again, I haven't spoken directly with my representative and will post anything contrary to what I've stated here.
longlegsinlapaz, I love your description of PROFEPA. They totally blew the serving of papers and demands for fines against many of us and a federal
judge threw out all there complaints. SEMERNAT was more than a bit angry. Good for us & Hilario for fighting it!
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redmesa
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I am befuddled. I guess, I will ask my Realtor what is what with this. There always are surprises in Baja that is for sure. Just when we think it
is clear the water is totally muddy again.
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Russ
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redmesa, If you are in the "city" proper you may have dodge the problem. I don't know your realtor so don't take offense please. Many realtors claim
to be up to date on the where with all of this issue. DO NOT take their word to the bank. Ask you friends and neighbors what they have done. If they
haven't had to address these issues yet they will. Maybe, there is some money to be save as a group as far as a representative is concerned.
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longlegsinlapaz
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Quote: | Originally posted by redmesa
I am befuddled. I guess, I will ask my Realtor what is what with this. There always are surprises in Baja that is for sure. Just when we think it
is clear the water is totally muddy again. | redmesa, not to dis your realtor, but IMHO, you'd be better off
getting information directly from SEMERNAT. Builders & realtors aren't necessarily current on the laws & they can have a vested interest in
how much they tell you. I'd ask your realtor, but then ask the same questions of SEMERNAT to verify or debunk what you've been told.
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longlegsinlapaz
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"Great
Minds", Hook!! We cross-posted
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slimshady
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Hell, I thought I was confused. My head hurts more than before. It looks like there are 20 different answers.
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Bob and Susan
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the correct answer is you need a report...
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ncampion
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Maybe a little cost / benefit analysis is in order. I know people who went ahead and cleared land, built their house and were living comfortable for
over a year when local Profepa came and leveled about $10,000 USD fines for not having necessary reports. They paid the fines, filed the reports and
everyone is happy. We are trying to do everything right up front and the delays have cost us over $100,000 in construction cost increases. Maybe
better to pay $10,000 fine and be enjoying your home a year earlier!!
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CaboRon
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Quote: | Originally posted by ncampion
Maybe a little cost / benefit analysis is in order. I know people who went ahead and cleared land, built their house and were living comfortable for
over a year when local Profepa came and leveled about $10,000 USD fines for not having necessary reports. They paid the fines, filed the reports and
everyone is happy. We are trying to do everything right up front and the delays have cost us over $100,000 in construction cost increases. Maybe
better to pay $10,000 fine and be enjoying your home a year earlier!! |
An interesting way to resolve the problem ....
Sounds as if the delays are far more expensive for you than the fines ....
CaboRon
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