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[*] posted on 1-28-2009 at 08:51 AM


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CrapoRon, when are you leaving Baja and this board?


You question my facts ?

During the three inquisitions the Catholic church murdered more than four million women ...

You call that crap ???

You are beyond words ....

You can expedite my leaving by contributing to my PayPal account.

And you have not read anything yet ... as soon as I clear the border you will read about the state of afairs here in Baja in your local papers back home.

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Ron, if you explain how to contribute to your departure, you'll probably make a tidy sum.
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[*] posted on 1-28-2009 at 09:27 AM


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CrapoRon, when are you leaving Baja and this board?


You question my facts ?

During the three inquisitions the Catholic church murdered more than four million women ...

You call that crap ???

You are beyond words ....

You can expedite my leaving by contributing to my PayPal account.

And you have not read anything yet ... as soon as I clear the border you will read about the state of afairs here in Baja in your local papers back home.

CaboRon


Ron, if you explain how to contribute to your departure, you'll probably make a tidy sum.


Sounds great, I will post the information soon.

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[*] posted on 1-28-2009 at 09:45 AM


To the average mexican selling or manufacturing drugs is not a problem.

Their opinion is it's just another commodity and much more lucrative than working in the fields for nothing.

If there were only three mexicans and one Mota plant left in the country there would still be a cartel operating and drugs for sale.




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[*] posted on 1-28-2009 at 10:04 AM


"I was a Catholic until I reached the age of.....REASON"
George Carlin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCFimDBj_V4

[Edited on 1-28-2009 by flyfishinPam]
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[*] posted on 1-28-2009 at 10:13 AM


Cabo Ron.
You have taken the first step in improving relations between the U.S. and Mexico by announcing that you are leaving the country, Mexico, that yiou obviousley dislike so much...Why you kever moved here in the first place is still a mystery. I can only assume Somalia was full




Mexico!! Where two can live as cheaply as one.....but it costs twice as much.....
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[*] posted on 1-28-2009 at 10:43 AM


Terry28

Thanks for the stop on the road.

And well said.




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[*] posted on 1-28-2009 at 11:03 AM


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Cabo Ron.
You have taken the first step in improving relations between the U.S. and Mexico by announcing that you are leaving the country, Mexico, that yiou obviousley dislike so much...Why you kever moved here in the first place is still a mystery. I can only assume Somalia was full


I moved here for several reasons ....

I remember the Baja Califoria of the fifties and sixties ....

The Baja where gringos weren't lied to and cheated by so called builders and tradesmen.

This is not Mexico !

Mexico is on the mainland ....

I probably should have moved to San Miguel de Alliande ...

I have several friends that have moved there , they seem to enjoy it.

Also, I thought I would be in for a cheap retirement in a beautiful part of the planet.

Todos Santos is an expensive place to llive ....

All in all, except for the tropical summer, it has been a good life experience.

I am not, with a couple of exceptions, impressed with the Baja Mexicans (a view held by many on the mainland).

And by the way ....

Tipping when NO service is provided really grates on me.

And all of the propinas and mordidas that suck the economy dry while contributing nothing to the infrastructure. I pay a 10% rental tax on my casa and they can't fix the one foot deep potholes I drive through to cross into town :fire:

My vehicle has been virtuall shaken to death by the roads here.

And the dust, don't get me started ....

And yes, I don't belong here ....

You will be reading of the really serious issues after I clear the border ... it is not safe to speak of many things that happen even in a place like Todos Santos :wow:

So I have laid bare my innermost feelings here ....

Those of you who would try to silence opinions or news, or who would resort to name calling and personel attacks do not matter to me. Those who would censure are the lowest of the low.

Like I mentioned, you will get your opportunity to hasten my departure, and to put your money where your mouths are.

The only well balanced and happy gringos I have met, simply do not live here without periodic trips back north.

Have a great day, I know I will,
Oh, yes I fully expect several of you to take shots, be my guest,

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[*] posted on 1-28-2009 at 11:12 AM


Ron

Good luck in SMA cheap living, non of the crap you have to put up with here.:?::?::?::?:




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[*] posted on 1-28-2009 at 11:13 AM


In fact, many of the so-called Baja Mexicans you refer to as less impressive than mainland Mexicans, are exactly that. Mainland Mexicans. The building boom in the 80's and 90's required the developers to bring thousands of workers over from the mainland. I remember the awful living conditions they tolerated while building the time share resorts, Etc. Let's face it, if you were a Mexican on the mainland, with any education, a decent job, or good prospects, would you agree the ship over to the Baja to live in a tar paper shack/dorm?
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[*] posted on 1-28-2009 at 11:19 AM


May I be so bold as to suggest a "Ron's Nearly Gone" new thread so it doesnt get lost in this cartel thread?

just a note...I figure I am better balanced now and MUCH happier now that I rarely (every 5 years or so for wedding or funeral) make trips north.




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[*] posted on 1-28-2009 at 11:25 AM


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"I was a Catholic until I reached the age of.....REASON"
George Carlin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCFimDBj_V4

[Edited on 1-28-2009 by flyfishinPam]


What a great mind .

Thank you for posting that.

Isn't U tube awesome !

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[*] posted on 1-28-2009 at 11:27 AM


I certainly hope those aren't religious events.
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[*] posted on 1-28-2009 at 11:29 AM


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Ron

Good luck in SMA cheap living, non of the crap you have to put up with here.:?::?::?::?:


I am actually moving to Las Vegas ....

I realized I am also boared and LV has a very active entertainment industry ...

I enjoy my work and miss entertaining people .

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[*] posted on 1-28-2009 at 11:31 AM


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"Just another nice day in Mexico", does not sell very many newspapers...

The press is in it to make money. The press get used and manipulated by people trying to further agendas all the time.

The press in the USA is more able to accurately report about the narcos as they don't have to worry about being killed as much as the Mexican press does. However; the truth is not the priority in the USA. It's money.

Journalistic ethics is a huge issue that most people really don't have a good grip on. I spent a short time working for a large magazine and found out quickly, they would not review, or review favorably, products unless they advertised in the magazine. That is the norm for most publishers, and the public really has no idea. It's pay to play.

Nowadays, the news is just a way to make money by selling ad space, period.


Obama's first interview was to reach out with the muslim world. No mention of Mexico. When he feels Mexico is worthy comment- he will- and the press will cover it ad nauseum.

The muslim word still has leaders the USA can reach out to- leaders who have a direct influence on the actions of their followers. Mexico has no one free from corruption that their people will follow (except for Calderon presumably- who is totally impotent- it is the narcos who control his country and were part of his inner circle as well).

When Mexico is capable of doing something about it's many social and economic problems- it will get some positive attention from Obama and the US press. Even Castro and Chavez are talking nicey nice about Omaba now- and Russia just delayed putting it's short range missles in western europe citing the new tone from Obama.

Mexico is not Obamas or americans priorty by any means. He has too many economic and geo-political issues to deal with that peole want to solve. What team of geniuses is working on Mexican security issues for her people?

Mexico will have to wait for good press until Mexico herself steps up, cleans herself up and aquires the credibility to join Obama on the world stage. Until then it's just a third-world neighbor in distress.

I can't figure out wh the many smart Mexicans who left Mexico for the USA for better educations and hope for their futures- can't return to Mexico to start bringing hope and eduation to their homeland. Mexicans are ready to follow a leader who can fix the problmes- but no one has stood up to take the job.

[Edited on 1-28-2009 by Woooosh]




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[*] posted on 1-28-2009 at 11:41 AM


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"I was a Catholic until I reached the age of.....REASON"
George Carlin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCFimDBj_V4

[Edited on 1-28-2009 by flyfishinPam]


What a great mind .

Thank you for posting that.

Isn't U tube awesome !

CaboRon


gotta admit Carlin is a genius. I'd imagine that a few televised and sponsored upside down naked crucifixions of the bankers that launder the drug money would solve this problem immediately :lol:
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[*] posted on 1-28-2009 at 12:11 PM


Calderone visited with Obama just before the inauguration. Can't really find fault if Obama's administration feels that a priority to world safety is doing something about the Midele East.
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[*] posted on 1-28-2009 at 12:49 PM


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I can't figure out wh the many smart Mexicans who left Mexico for the USA for better educations and hope for their futures- can't return to Mexico to start bringing hope and eduation to their homeland. Mexicans are ready to follow a leader who can fix the problmes- but no one has stood up to take the job.



I agree that would be a great first step to help changing things. The problem lies in that THEY are waiting for someone else to fix things before they risk coming back.

It truly is a Catch-22...

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:




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[*] posted on 1-28-2009 at 01:09 PM


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I am actually moving to Las Vegas ....
I realized I am also boared and LV has a very active entertainment industry ...
I enjoy my work and miss entertaining people .

CaboRon


Ron,
Don't be too disheartened....you are entertaining a few of us with your stand-up routine on this forum...:lol:

Moving to Lost Wages???:O:O And your disappointment with your Baja fantasy has turned you bitter:no::no: wait till you hit Vegas

LV ain't what it was "in the day" of your memories, I bet.

I encourage you to find the true source of your bitterness (aside from potholes in Todos...of which there must have been many more in its glory days...).

I must say that I agree with your disdain for religion (the corporate bastardization of spirituality), but that isn't the point of this thread....it is, once again, "US Reporting..."

I hope you research your next move a little better so your expectations will be congruent with reality...

Que via bien:cool:




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[*] posted on 1-28-2009 at 03:15 PM


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I am actually moving to Las Vegas ....
I realized I am also boared and LV has a very active entertainment industry ...
I enjoy my work and miss entertaining people .

CaboRon


Ron,
Don't be too disheartened....you are entertaining a few of us with your stand-up routine on this forum...:lol:

Moving to Lost Wages???:O:O And your disappointment with your Baja fantasy has turned you bitter:no::no: wait till you hit Vegas

LV ain't what it was "in the day" of your memories, I bet.



Que via bien:cool:


Actually before I moved here in the fall of '97 I would ususlly fly to Las Vegas three or four times a year either to see a new show or to work on one.

Cheers,

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[*] posted on 1-29-2009 at 10:07 AM


Comitan,
Your welcome. It is nice to meet someone from this board along the road.




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