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oxxo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by KooKooRoo
They are suppose to take your license, so you follow them back to the station |
Correct. Since I didn't have my license when I was pulled over, they took my front license plate so that I would follow them back to the station.
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ckiefer
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He did not pull me over because of the sticker. He said I passed him on the left when I should have passed him on the right. He was parked on the
curb when I passed him. He didn't even notice my sticker until he took my license back to his truck to ask his supervisor if it would be okay for me
to pay at the station. Or so he said. As I stated before if I committed a violation then fine, tell me what I did wrong, give me the ticket and I
will gladly pay at the police station!.
And just what makes you think I'm not attempting to learn the language? You guys are tough. 
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motoged
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License needed for dirtbikes???
I was in San Jose for 10 days over this past Xmas with two friends...we all had dirt bikes...one had his Alberta plates on his bike, one did not. A
police roadblock just east of La Playa snagged those two...the guy with plates did not need to show his papers, the guy without plates was told: "$50
here and no paperwork or $100 at police station".
He paid the $500 MP fine and continued on his way to the beaches east of town... 
The issue here is for dirtbikers who rarely have plated bikes (those who do can leave this discussion and do a wheelie out of this discussion ...because
that's all the military checkpoints really want to see:lol .
Liability insurance is all that is needed in Mexico (Collision/comprehensive is optional but does not apply for accidents off of paved roads!!! ) for legal vehicle operation...and that vehicle needs to be legally registered in
home province/state.....or that is what I have been led to believe over past 15 years of riding Baja.
Very few dirtbikers buy such coverage. I insure my street bike for liability and collision when in Mexico...and hope I don't wreck the bike off
pavement....or get a truck to get the wreck to a paved road if I could
Don't believe everything you think....
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oxxo
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CK, calm down. We're just trying to help you. Just like in the US, if you are stopped by the cops they always ask to see your license and your
registration and often your insurance.
I live about 200 yards from plywood Federal cruiser. Stop by for a cerveza and we'll talk about it.
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BajaGringo
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Dirt bikes, if driven on public roads need to have current plates, just like other motor vehicles...
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EnseNADAslim
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It is very funny how tourist or those living here get singled out on non-registered vehicles, because as we all know that is all you see going up and
down the streets when it comes to what most of the locals drive. I even had a friend that was in an accident with a local and the car that hit him had
very old Ca. plates (blue and yellow) on the car and the cop never even batted an eye about it, but of course my buddies insurance was going to pay to
have that un-registered, beat up, and smoking car fixed.
I'm giving up the battle and I'm going to do the right thing and get a Mexican drivers license and then import my old 93 ford truck, and as California
moves towards saving the world with tighter smog req. I'll eventually import all of our other vehicles.
I think the old "pay at the station $$$.$$ or pay me $$.$$" is a hoax, and I'm told if you pay the ticket right away at the station it's fairly cheep.
I had a buddy that insisted the cop take him to the station to pay the ticket and when he was feed the "pay there or pay here" he simply said "No, I'd
like to pay this at the station". The cop eventually returned to his car, gave him his license, and told to to just go.
If you have an FM3 or Mexican License they should issue you a ticket as you have a physical residential address.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oxxo
All vehicles in Mexico are required to have current registration, they don't care what the DMV in CA, or NV, or SD told you. You were pulled over
because you didn't have the current sticker on your rear plate. They look for that. I have found the cops in San Jose to be very fair. I got a
ticket there last year and deserved it (driving without my license). Price was 200p to the cop or 200p at the station. I chose to pay at the
station. It was an interesting experience. I just happened to run into the Police Chief while there. Asked if he could assist me. I said no, I was
paying a ticket that I deserved. He thanked me and went about his business. |
Wow. I thought I was the only one who knew when to just shut his mouth and take his licks. Nice job.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
I was in San Jose for 10 days over this past Xmas with two friends...we all had dirt bikes...one had his Alberta plates on his bike, one did not. A
police roadblock just east of La Playa snagged those two...the guy with plates did not need to show his papers, the guy without plates was told: "$50
here and no paperwork or $100 at police station".
He paid the $500 MP fine and continued on his way to the beaches east of town...
The issue here is for dirtbikers who rarely have plated bikes (those who do can leave this discussion and do a wheelie out of this discussion...because
that's all the military checkpoints really want to see:lol.
Liability insurance is all that is needed in Mexico (Collision/comprehensive is optional but does not apply for accidents off of paved roads!!!) for legal vehicle operation...and that vehicle needs to be legally registered in
home province/state.....or that is what I have been led to believe over past 15 years of riding Baja.
Very few dirtbikers buy such coverage. I insure my street bike for liability and collision when in Mexico...and hope I don't wreck the bike off
pavement....or get a truck to get the wreck to a paved road if I could
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Isn't it fairly cheap and easy to get the recreational off-road only plates for your motor toys? I'll bet you pesos to crispy cremes the Mexican cops
wouldn't know that type of plate is restricted from paved roads.
I think even in CA- you can use the recreational vehicle plates on a paved road if to access the off-road areas you want to play in. Not sure.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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motoged
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Off-road bikes
Canadian provinces vary with their legislation, but it still tends to be less restrictive than US laws. Some provinces expect a license that allows
for some public road travel; BC (my home) does not have a law yet but they are working on a tax-grab plan at this time (part of license fee was to be
placed in "trail improvement" fund, but they are recanting on that).
You are correct in suggesting that plating a vehicle, if possible, is the right thing to do. The San Jose police did not ask the plated rider for his
paperwork....so, I suppose a person could put an existing trailer plate on the bike for Baja travel (mostly off-road), hoping that the visual of the
plate would reduce chance of being snagged...
Play by the rules or suck it up may be the advice...whine about getting busted later over cervezas y colitas
Crooked cops? Sure. Crooked motorists? Igualmente el mismo
Don't believe everything you think....
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Don Alley
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Once in Constitution we were pulled over by two police officers, both on foot, for not waiting for the green arrow light before making a left turn.
They took my license. I knew the proper procedure was to go to the cop shop and pay the fine, and my license would be returned. But they would not get
my license until the shift was up and the two police women got rides to the office. Solution? The two cops squeezed onto my truck's bench seat and we
all rode to the station together.
And they did check for current US registration.
Oh, by the way, there are no green arrow turn signals there.
But it's true, you give up your license as security that you'll show up to pay the fine-they get the license, you get a ticket. If you don't have a
license they will unscrew a plate and take that.
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ckiefer
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by ckiefer
Well, it finally happened. Got pulled over today in San Jose. The cop didn't (or wouldn't) speak english, so we communicated each in our own
language. Tried to tell me I had committed a violation which I didn't then he noticed that my tags were expired. I tried telling him that CA did not
require current tags on vehicle not operated on the streets or highways in CA, but this either did not get across or he just wasn't buying it.
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What does CA law have to do with driving Mexico????? Did you happen to notice that you are not in CA??
So you drive an unregistered vehicle and got caught. You deserved some kind of punishment for breaking law. Sounds like you got off easy.
You live in Mexico, you should make an attempt to learn the language. |
Perhaps you can refer me to a more member friendly message board. Thanks in advance.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Don Alley
Once in Constitution we were pulled over by two police officers, both on foot, for not waiting for the green arrow light before making a left turn.
They took my license. I knew the proper procedure was to go to the cop shop and pay the fine, and my license would be returned. But they would not get
my license until the shift was up and the two police women got rides to the office. Solution? The two cops squeezed onto my truck's bench seat and we
all rode to the station together.
And they did check for current US registration.
Oh, by the way, there are no green arrow turn signals there.
But it's true, you give up your license as security that you'll show up to pay the fine-they get the license, you get a ticket. If you don't have a
license they will unscrew a plate and take that. |
In CA you get to keep your expired license when you renew- or at lest I did. That't the one I keep duct taped under my dirt bike seat. Why give up
the real one?
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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BajaGringo
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I would try that trick but they would NEVER believe that I was the young handsome looking guy in the OLD license...
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
In CA you get to keep your expired license when you renew- or at lest I did. That't the one I keep duct taped under my dirt bike seat. Why give up
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I have two expired ones in my glove box, both have a post it note on the back with the phone numbers of juez calificador, office of protection of
visitors and/or sindicatura of the area I will be in. I have had occasion to hand the license over, but always post-it-note side up.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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BajaGringo
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I have just learned to insist on the ticket. They rarely ever actually give you one and even if they do, the fine is usually $20 or less. Compared to
the tickets I have gotten in the states that is a REAL bargain.
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motoged
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ckiefer
Perhaps you can refer me to a more member friendly message board. Thanks in advance. |
Don't you hate it when you are looking for sympathy and all you get is what you really knew you should admit to?
As for a friendlier forum....don't know....
Actually, these jibes are pretty mild-mannered compared to some threads....
Don't believe everything you think....
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ckiefer
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Don't think anyone here is looking for sympathy, similar experiences perhaps but not sympathy. Sometimes in the spirit of play, text messages can be
viewed as mean spirited! I hear BC a bit chilly, we'll keep it warm here for ya of course, until your return.
Salud! | Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
| Quote: | Originally posted by ckiefer
Perhaps you can refer me to a more member friendly message board. Thanks in advance. |
Don't you hate it when you are looking for sympathy and all you get is what you really knew you should admit to?
As for a friendlier forum....don't know....
Actually, these jibes are pretty mild-mannered compared to some threads.... |
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BajaGringo
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Don't take it personally. It's just the SOP around here. You'll get used to it and even begin to sound like the rest of us after awhile...
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ckiefer
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
Don't take it personally. It's just the SOP around here. You'll get used to it and even begin to sound like the rest of us after awhile...
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Hmmm...SOP? Sameolepoop?
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BajaGringo
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