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David K
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That is the plane MrBillM mentioned (in front of Jim Rigsby's yard).
Photo from about 1978... at Laguna Percebu (now 'Rancho Percebu')... Looked like wreck that someone turned into a gag front yard decoration... bones
were layed out like the pilot holding a tequila bottle... a bra was hanging from the tail wing...
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MrBillM
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Long Gone
The Plane was bulldozed and hauled off to the dump shortly after Jim was hauled off to spend his final days in a U.S. "Care" Facility.
Little by little, his trailers and assorted stuff are being "cleaned up". It won't be long before the most distinctive place is Percebu is just
desert again. Sort of sad. Not Jim's departure, but the Plane's.
I was told that the plane was one of many crashes in Baja and he "bought" the wreckage and had it hauled in for a yard decoration.
Back in the old days, it seemed to be common practice to simply leave those wrecks wherever they were, like the one next to the runway at Alfonsinas.
BTW, I had heard that it was an Aeronca, BUT I'm not an expert on Old Tail. However, MOST Light-Aircraft of that genre looked awfully similar. It
would take something of an expert to distinguish a Piper, Aeronca, Luscombe or even a Cessna 120 or 140. I know a guy who STILL flys a C-140 and,
until recently, a Luscombe Silvaire.
Quien Sabe ?
[Edited on 2-12-2009 by MrBillM]
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shari
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NOw I like a good laugh for sure....BUT...I never could understand why anyone wouldn't warn poor ignorant campers about possible high tides reaching
their campsites. Whenever I see unsuspecting folks camping where they will get wet...I always let them know...some move...some dont. I figure we were
all newbies once and people who arent aware of tides just dont think about it....I always appreciate good advice and try to give freely of my
knowledge to those who obviously dont know the local problems one may encounter....please be kind to others!
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MrBillM
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Doze Po Folks
Not having kept a comprehensive log over the last 30 years, I can't give a statistical breakdown on the percentage of TOTAL A-Holes who makeup the
Beach-Camper crowd, but it is a substantial figure.
After years of witnessing Wild Animal antics all night long played to the beat of Crap music at earth-shaking decibels along with Un-Muffled vehicles
roaring around and the rockets being launched willy-nilly and sometimes landing at the front door, one becomes jaded to the possible "Discomfort" of
that crowd.
And, it is only "Discomfort" that is easily corrected.
Oh, I forgot to add that the majority of those campers seem to feel that it is proper etiquette to simply leave their garbage right where they were.
Makes for a beautiful scene, especially after a big holiday.
Schadenfreude is good.
[Edited on 2-12-2009 by MrBillM]
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bbbait
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It looks like you have picked the perfect place to live! Enjoy!
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biglar
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I can't believe that someone would sit there and watch un-knowing people set up camp in a flood zone and not say something to them.
I know what you mean about wild all night parties - I don't like them either - and booming music.........and the mess left behind, but those're a
small minority of visitors.
Most are good folks, down to have a good time. Why wouldn't you warn them of the tides ??
Lar.
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David K
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From what I have seen at Laguna Percebu (and other Baja beaches), those that make the most noise all night and leave all the trash behind (including
soiled diapers), don't speak English and probably would not understand or be receptive to an old gringo telling them what to do in their country...?
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desertcpl
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good point DK
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
From what I have seen at Laguna Percebu (and other Baja beaches), those that make the most noise all night and leave all the trash behind (including
soiled diapers), don't speak English and probably would not understand or be receptive to an old gringo telling them what to do in their country...?
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If you are going to criticize those people who don't speak English, why not mention who they are? The Mexicans perhaps?
We have also been camping both in Baja and on the Mainland where we have seen some of "those people who don't speak English" leave the cleanest of
cleanest campsites and be very considerate of others.
We have also seen "those people who do speak English" leave terrible messes and be extremely rude.
IMHO your generalization is right in line with the post about the car jacking where spi619 suggested that it was a good idea to only stop to help
other Americans.
So, if you know they will get wet in the night, but they don't speak English, ignore them---but warn them if they are English speakers 
And some of "those other people" do appreciate it. Just one example, we warned a large group from Ensenada while camped at El Requeson that they were
setting up camp where the water would be later that night---they smiled, moved some, and thanked us---especially the next day when they saw the water.
Diane
[Edited on 2-13-2009 by jdtrotter]
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Diver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
From what I have seen at Laguna Percebu (and other Baja beaches), those that make the most noise all night and leave all the trash behind (including
soiled diapers), don't speak English and probably would not understand or be receptive to an old gringo telling them what to do in their country...?
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Amazing logic !!
If they don't speak english, they won't appreciate a kind suggestion !?
Sounds like someone is prejudiced against someone else !? 
Or maybe just afraid to talk to non-english speakers with babies who party lat on nights when he doesn't ?? 
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David K
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You know Diver and Diane... it is MrBillM who said he doesn't help those people... yet both of you quote me...???
I was responding to biglar, with an opinion based on personal observation over 40 years of Mexico travel... Most of the mess and noise has been
observed in more recent years, I will add...
I have camped right next to "Mexicans" as you like to say, at El Requeson... all I know is they spoke Spanish... and there are several nations that
have Spanish as a national language as well as all of Mexico (why I didn't say "locals").
How about posting some photos jd ... or more Ford horror stories Diver, instead of picking apart my replies to others??
It is getting old... and stinky... like the beach below MrBillM's house on a Semana Santa!
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Diver
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Oh my gosh !!
You really camped right next to Mexicans and they spoke spanish ?
You really didn't move your camp next to some more gringos ?
So what ?
We have camped right next to many folks from many places who spoke many languages at El Requeson. I have often cautioned newcomers about the high tide
concerns. I don't recall and didn't care what language they spoke - I speak friendly sign language !!
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
... yet both of you quote me...???
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Yes we were quoting you; it is what YOU wrote.
Yes you did sound like a bigot to me.
Perhaps you should consider what you write before you post it.
Perhaps you should consider your inner self.
Of course I expected;
"But guys, how could you say that, I love Baja, I post more than anyone, I didn't mean it that way, why do you guys pick on me, you know I didn;t mean
that, ...... why don't we all post some pictures and be happy......"
Can we please see another photo of your Tacoma on Shell Beach ?
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
You know Diver and Diane... it is MrBillM who said he doesn't help those people... yet both of you quote me...???
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Yes, I quoted you because of your defense of MrBill, and because you brought in the ethnic card with quite a bigoted statement. Sorry, but the
bigotry is annoying. At least MrBill is consistent, he doesn't want to help anyone in that situation.
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I have camped right next to "Mexicans" as you like to say, at El Requeson... all I know is they spoke Spanish... and there are several nations that
have Spanish as a national language as well as all of Mexico (why I didn't say "locals").
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Yes Spanish is spoken in many countries, and none of it sounds like the Spanish spoken in Mexico---if you listen or try to communicate with them, you
would hear the difference.
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It is getting old... and stinky... |
Yes, I would agree, but for different reasons---all of which have been pointed out before, but you will never get it.
I am disappointed, however, this time you didn't drop in one of your political "truths".
Diane
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