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JESSE
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Narcos dont even come close to having the same weapons as the military.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Narcos dont even come close to having the same weapons as the military. |
I wouldn't be surprised if the narcos bought one of the hundreds of missing suitcase nukes. The narcos will use a bazooka to blow up a neighborhood
bar- would the military? It's really not an issue of who has the most or strongest weapons arsenal- it's who would actually use them in the urban
areas. We already know the narcos will.
CNN just reported that Sec. Clinton will likely appoint a Special Envoy to Mexico to deal with the increasing instability.
[Edited on 2-19-2009 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by LancairDriver
The collateral damage in trying to use airpower and heavy-duty weaponry in the kind of conflict occurring in Mexico now would only alienate Mexican
citizens who up until now are trying to stay out of it. As has been mentioned before on the Nomad site, the thing that stopped the gangster problem in
the US during prohibition was the legalization of alcohol and not any governmental force.
Unfortunately there are no good solutions to this problem, particularly since the market in the US shows no signs of drying up.
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The systemic problem with Mexico is the people accepted and even embraced the corruption over the decades. They knew no other way to supplement their
paltry incomes- be it through Mordidas or the endless tramities.
Higher education as an institutional solution never occured to them because four years is "long range" thinking and they needed money yesterday. Even
15% of the police have only grade school educations. The only ones who could help Mexico- the smart and educated- left Mexico for a better life on
the "other side" years ago and won't come back to help. They'll wave La Raza banners and Mexican flags stateside but what was the top topic of
concern for last years's La Raza convention in San Diego- not the violence, corruption or declining Mexican economy- but "How the mortagage crisis is
affecting Mexican Americans" wtf? Once they crossed the border they apparently turned their backs on their country forever. Now if they came back to
promote change- they would likely be killed.
Mexicans "tried to stay out of it" so long their country is now almost unrecognizable and still they have no one to trust or turn to without putting
their own family's safety in direct jeopardy. You can't hide indoors and peek out through curtains and expect social change for the better.
Mexicans play victims much better than they do civil warriors. The country went from the dreamy land of Manana to the unstable land of nada over the
past few years while everyone denied, hid, blamed the media and pointed a finger at the USA. When they did come out to protest it was for selfish
reasons- they protested car import taxes and diesel fuel prices. It's only going to get worse, much worse. |
Wooosh,
An excellent explanation of the Mexican mind set.
CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
CNN just reported that Sec. Clinton will likely appoint a Special Envoy to Mexico to deal with the increasing instability.
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Why doesn't the bulbous ol' housewife go herself? Isn't that her job?
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JESSE
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New Rifles
Aliya class missile ships
UAV
Live Fire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKC614oGUVo
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
CNN just reported that Sec. Clinton will likely appoint a Special Envoy to Mexico to deal with the increasing instability.
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Why doesn't the bulbous ol' housewife go herself? Isn't that her job? [/quote
no, it isn't actually. |
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Woooosh
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Looks like they have everything except the balls to use them. Their wives and mistresses have those.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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JESSE
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You canīt use war weaponry against civilian security problems, this is not Somalia my friend, and the narco problem regardless of the wild
exagerations of the foreign press, are not even close to making this a failed country.
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It's not the culture!
| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
Jets require constant maintenance,
Something that just seems to be non existant in the culture.
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If it were, Mexico wouldn't have nuclear reactors.
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CaboRon
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Jesse,
Would you kindly resize you pics.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
You canīt use war weaponry against civilian security problems, this is not Somalia my friend, and the narco problem regardless of the wild
exagerations of the foreign press, are not even close to making this a failed country. |
The narcos are already using these war weapons against civilians in urban areas and Mexico is indeed close to becoming a failed state- when a gov't
can no longer protect its people. It's only a wild media exaggeration if it isn't happening in your area I guess. It's very real from my view.
Only good thing lately- the narcos have resorted to hiring people to protest the Mexican Army being involved in civilian law enforcement. They
blocked several border crossings this week. At least Mexicans will protest if they are paid to- no matter that it's for the wrong side. A least they
will leave their houses to support the narcos.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Looks like they have everything except the balls to use them. Their wives and mistresses have those. |
Boy, talk about a "Pedo Viejo SOS".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escuadr%C3%B3n_201
http://www.flightsuits.com/patch_201mfs.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_response_to_Hurricane_K...
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Woooosh
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OK. Their grandfathers had balls in 1945. The ladies took them in 1946. And why is their fighter squad logo patch in English?
[Edited on 2-19-2009 by Woooosh]
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Geez. Mexico is the largest Spanish speaking country in the world, and its present state dates back two centuries. Give it a rest. Let Mexico be
Mexico. Let them deal with their problems, which include an enormous demand for illict drugs in the U.S. They are a soverign nation with a long
history. Dunno why people in the states try to make it their business.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
Why is it that those with so many opinions are the ones that know less about subjects?
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You are definitely, beyond a shadow of a doubt SOS.
I'll ask again;
Why is it that those with so many opinions are the ones that know less about subjects?
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
Jesse,
Would you kindly resize you pics.
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Caboron,
Would you resize your mind please?
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I don't appreciate having to move the page back and forth simply to read it. This is because certain people are too lazy to resize their pics.
Doug has asked that your pics do not exceed 600 in width. What's your problem k-burro ??
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Baja&Back
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Have to shake my head at all these AMERICAN armchair quarterbacks solving Mexico's narco problem.
If America had the balls to deal with AMERICAN druggies instead of pussyfooting around the issue, Mexico would not have a narco problem.
PS: CNN does not report news - they generate it. If you really want truth, try watching some international news channels.
Vented out now. Thx.
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Looks like they have everything except the balls to use them. Their wives and mistresses have those. |
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
You canīt use war weaponry against civilian security problems, this is not Somalia my friend, and the narco problem regardless of the wild
exagerations of the foreign press, are not even close to making this a failed country. |
The narcos are already using these war weapons against civilians in urban areas and Mexico is indeed close to becoming a failed state- when a gov't
can no longer protect its people. It's only a wild media exaggeration if it isn't happening in your area I guess. It's very real from my view.
Only good thing lately- the narcos have resorted to hiring people to protest the Mexican Army being involved in civilian law enforcement. They
blocked several border crossings this week. At least Mexicans will protest if they are paid to- no matter that it's for the wrong side. A least they
will leave their houses to support the narcos. |
Ok tell you what, if the US stops the massive flow of military grade weapons to Mexico, we promiss we will fix the problem.
Oh and by the way, polls show 80% of Mexicans think drug dealers should be round up and executed. The rest probably just want them arrested and put
away for ever.
I still fail to see the two sides in this "civil war".
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JESSE
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I dont know how to resize the pics, so sorry.
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