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bajabillybob
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Yup... and no 'time share pimps' either!
Zoo (largest in the world), Sea World, Wild Animal Park, Horton Plaza, Coronado, honest cops, and you're innocent until proven guilty!  |
I could not agree more.
Nothing to see here folks,move along .
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Bajahowodd
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The ships that will be diverting to San Diego from Ensenada primarily embark from LA-Long Beach. What you guys are missing is that many potential
passengers will not pay the hundreds of dollars to cruise from LA to SD. If they want to vacation in SD, they'll drive down I-5. They would have
anyway. From my perspective, except for a rehersal for people who have never cruised before, these cruises are a total waste of time.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
The ships that will be diverting to San Diego from Ensenada primarily embark from LA-Long Beach. What you guys are missing is that many potential
passengers will not pay the hundreds of dollars to cruise from LA to SD. If they want to vacation in SD, they'll drive down I-5. They would have
anyway. From my perspective, except for a rehersal for people who have never cruised before, these cruises are a total waste of time.
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Could be and probably so, but it's my understanding that a three day cruise in local waters is reasonable...around four hundred bucks for three
days...L.A to Ensenada and back. Sounds affordable to me.
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Gypsy Jan
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Ohhh Osprey
The voice of reason and facts - which are largely ignored by posters.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
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What's them?
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Gypsy Jan
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Fax? Don't them come out of those newfangled electronic thingies?
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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Bajahowodd
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Looking at the facts, if the world was not going crazy right now, a clear case could be made to allow ships to continue to visit Ensenada. At present,
there have been no reported cases in either San Diego or Ensenada. So, why punish Ensenada?
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fishingmako
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You can take a (7) day cruise from San Diego To Cabo, Mazatlan, Puerto Vallerta $499.00 Princess did it last year.
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bajabound2005
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The ships are docking in Ensenada (probably to refuel) but the passengers are not allowed to get off.
Friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel.
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805gregg
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A women just returning from baja to LA has come down with the swine flu. As reported on channel 7 news this morning. I understand the cruise ships
will be stopping at Santa Barbara instead of Mex.
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bajalou
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It appears that anyone feeling unwell gets labeled "Swime Fllue".
WHO reports only 7 deaths confirmed to be caused by Swine Flue worldwide, and all in Mex.
http://www.theage.com.au/national/who-says-only-seven-confir...
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
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And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalou
WHO reports only 7 deaths confirmed to be caused by Swine Flue worldwide, and all in Mex.
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A staggering figure. I'm equally concerned about those 5000 people who, in the same time frame, were killed on skateboards.
ERADICATE SKATEBOARDS
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David K
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A Mexican child died in San Diego of swine flu yesterday... and on the map you can see several swine flu cases in San Diego County, Tijuana and
Mexicali... those last two cities are in Baja, no?
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rhintransit
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I'm assuming, though it is not really clear from the postings, that the cruise ships are not landing passengers currently because of the threat of
swine flu. is that correct?
I had heard a rumor, which I cannot confirm, that Holland America will not be doing any more stops in Loreto after the 2009 season because that city,
in short sighted wisdom, decided to increase in the port taxes an additional $5/passenger. anyone know if this is so?
reality\'s never been of much use out here...
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bajabound2005
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The passengers cannot disembark due to Swine Flue; the Federal Govt was imposing a $5 fee that has since been rescinded (the Port of Loreto may indeed
be imposing their own fee).
My understanding is there are still no CONFIRMED cases of SF in Baja. The fact that a Mexican child died of SF in San Diego doesn't mean he got it in
Mexico...ditto for the woman who "recently visited Baja". All circumstantial...
Friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabound2005
The passengers cannot disembark due to Swine Flue; the Federal Govt was imposing a $5 fee that has since been rescinded (the Port of Loreto may indeed
be imposing their own fee).
My understanding is there are still no CONFIRMED cases of SF in Baja. The fact that a Mexican child died of SF in San Diego doesn't mean he got it in
Mexico...ditto for the woman who "recently visited Baja". All circumstantial... |
You would make a good criminal defense lawyer!  
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Bajahowodd
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I have a couple of comments and a question that perhaps you folks living in and around Loreto might answer.
First, as far as I know, the only ship making regular calls to loreto was the Holland America itinerary that included a stop at Topolobampo for the
opportunity to take a day excursion part way into Copper Canyon. That ship called on Loreto once every ten days for a few of the winter months.
Second, the cruise lines do extensive market research with their passengers and survey satisfaction levels about itineraries and ports. They listen,
and do make changes.
With that in mind, what's it like when 2000+ cruise passengers end up walking the streets in Loreto?
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rhintransit
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd[/i
With that in mind, what's it like when 2000+ cruise passengers end up walking the streets in Loreto? |
every ten days, when I see the big white ship, I make a point to avoid going to town. but all in all it's probably pretty good for local business and
having taken my morning cup of tea down to the marina to watch the disembarkment they've got the tours, excursions, taxis, pony carts, etc very well
organized. the rest of the passengers who chose to visit town, plus those coming back from excursions are entertained with a program in the square
and (presummably) with wandering around shopping and generally looking lost. they are clearly identifiable from necktags and when I accidentally hit
town when they do, I make a point of greeting them, talking to them, giving them tips on where to eat, shop etc
reality\'s never been of much use out here...
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Pregunta
I haven't read everything so I don't know if this has been touched on, But was the law ever changed regarding Gambling ? I remember years ago that
they were trying to change the law that required a foreign-stop on the cruise for Gambling to be allowed on the Cruise ships. Which was one of the
main reasons for the Ensenada destination. Can they now cruise only between U.S. Ports and allow gambling ?
I've never been on a cruise, never wanted to and Never will, so this is an area I only read about once in awhile in the papers.
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Bajahowodd
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Actually, Bill, the call on a foreign port is a requirement under the Jones act, for any foreign flagged vessels. That's to prevent foreign flagged
vessels from transporting Americans directly between US ports. Just like foreign airlines. That is why they reflagged that ship to the American flag
that does the Hawaii cruises. The ship used to have to waste a day making a call at some silly foreign atol. NCL also had to establish a separate us
company to run the ship, and employ Americans at US wages and under US labor laws. Also why ships that go from here to Hawaii, do it from Ensenada.
The gambling thing is about how many miles out to sea. I think it's seven. And under treaty, no ship casino is open while in any port worldwide.
I'm guessing that any reports about using Santa Barbara as a port would still require them to stop in Ensenada. Unless emergency waivers were issue.
[Edited on 4-30-2009 by Bajahowodd]
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