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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
Post-1979 two-piece temple garments end just above the knee for both sexes. Women's garment have a rounded or sweetheart neckline with cap sleeves.
Male tops are available in tee-shirt styles |
I guess men have to wear them as well. And, to think they were close to becoming part of the presidential wardrobe.
What a bunch of ridiculous nonsense. Like the mandatory veil in the middle east.
Ya know, we could excercise "thread purity" here and stick to the original topic, that of the kidnapping, but what more is there to say without
additional details? Does that mean the thread has to die?
No...It morphs as they all do when all has been said. It isn't disrespect...It's a natural progression. |
It seeems that only main stream christian religions seem to be in favor here at Nomadlandia.
Y'all should be careful about taking a kidnapping story and turning it into a fun fest at the expense of mormons and islam.
Respectfully,
the atheist goat 
p.s. 9 out of 10 mormon women are blond and hot
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Goat,
I don't find myself in agreement with you too often, but you got this one right!
Ken
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Whoever called it a fun-fest? I just think it's ridiculous. I'm allowed to do that.
9 out of 10, huh........ Who would know with all the clothing they have to wear. The freakin underwear thing had to have a beginning with the
chastity belt. Is that a reasonable idea this day and age?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Whoever called it a fun-fest? I just think it's ridiculous. I'm allowed to do that.
9 out of 10, huh........ Who would know with all the clothing they have to wear. The freakin underwear thing had to have a beginning with the
chastity belt. Is that a reasonable idea this day and age? |
me thinks that most wear thongs and have never seen a mormon suit outside of temple
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
me thinks that most wear thongs and have never seen a mormon suit outside of temple |
Which leads me to believe the garment is fully visible inside the temple. What are they doing in there anyway? No wonder they lock the doors.
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Former LDS Church leader kidnapped in Mexico
The Salt Lake Tribune
Updated: 06/17/2009 10:41:24 AM MDT
ESPN is reporting the kidnapping of a man who previously was an LDS Church leader in Mexico. Meredith Romney, uncle to professional bull rider Rocky
McDonald, was kidnapped while he and his family were leaving their ranch Monday near Janos, Chihuahua, ESPN reported on Tuesday. According to
McDonald, gunmen shot out the tires of Romney's truck and forced him into their vehicle, leaving his wife and grandson behind, the network reported.
Romney was president of the Colonia Juárez Chihuahua Temple from 1999 to 2004, according to Ensign magazine church news reports archived on the LDS
Church Web site.
He remains a member of the LDS Church, a spokesman said.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pollen
It's Merdith, not Meredith.
And who cares, this was another kidnapping! |
They killed a priest and seminarians this week. They would have preferred to have been kidnapped I'm fairly sure:
"Hernandez and the two seminarians had just celebrated Mass in Arcelia and were leaving the area when a group of unknown gunmen pulled up next to
their vehicle and opened fire, according to the local human rights organization Montana Tlachinollan. Local reports added that after shooting the
priest's vehicle, the gunmen pulled the men outside and shot them in the back."
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/06/16/mexico.cler...
Don't we have enough local baja kidnappings, beheadings and extortions to post about? (yes, we do)
[Edited on 6-17-2009 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Sorry Pollen, but even The Mormon Times spells it Meredith. Go correct them.
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Meridith was returned at 10:00 this morning. No further details.
We (Marian and I) were sort of adopted by one of the several Romney families in Colonia Juarez (about 150 miles below the border) several years ago. I
met them while on an archeological trip to the nearby Valley of the Caves. They took us in, showered us (self defense?), fed us and we have visited
several times while leading 4x4 trips to Copper Canyon. While Meridith has a ranch near Janos, he lives in Colonia Juarez above the temple they got a
few years ago.
We are not Mormons, just in case you are wondering.
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Interesting. Perhaps Meredith is mighty persuasive. Or, more likely, a ransom was paid. It's almost a hint of genius for the thugs to try and kidnap a
Mormon leader, inasmuch as the LDS church is very tightknit and also has considerable wealth.
That being said, I must confess that I was somewhat surprised to see posters labelling the LDS church as some sort of cult. Understand, I go to the
same church as "goat". I wonder what the qualification of a cult is? There are like 14 million Mormons wordwide, and approximately 5 Million in the
US. For perspective, there are only about 8 million Lutherans in the US. So, if it's not about size, then what? Weird rituals? The temple garment for
example. Seems like every organized religion has what some could call weird rituals. What would baptism seem to non-Christians? Original sin? Think
about that. How better to ensure the future membership of your organization than to promote the need for a ritual that brings a baby into the church?
I've always been bemused by the fact that the source of Judaism, Christianity and Islam lies within the same region among the same people. And yet,
has historically been a flashpoint of evil deeds.
Some of you may wish to flame me right now. But just consider the fact that a seeming innocent man was kidnapped for what appears to be ransom. Looks
like it worked. Who's next?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Neal Johns
Meridith was returned at 10:00 this morning. No further details.
We (Marian and I) were sort of adopted by one of the several Romney families in Colonia Juarez (about 150 miles below the border) several years ago. I
met them while on an archeological trip to the nearby Valley of the Caves. They took us in, showered us (self defense?), fed us and we have visited
several times while leading 4x4 trips to Copper Canyon. While Meridith has a ranch near Janos, he lives in Colonia Juarez above the temple they got a
few years ago.
We are not Mormons, just in case you are wondering. |
A couple of pictures of Colonia Juarez which is a beautiful little town that has a very interesting history and a very well known private school. And
a few years back they paved the road there and it is one of best roads around!
We have visited there on our way to Mata Ortiz for pottery and or Copper Canyon. It is a very friendly place---the first time, it was a surprise to
see so many blonds around and the local buildings--
The temple
If I remember correctly, George Romney, the father of Mitt was born in Colonia Juarez.
Like some others, I think the religious bashing is quite out of place, and no, I am not a Mormon, I am a Pantheist and a member of a
Unitarian/Universalist Church. And, I am not a fan of the Mormon religion, nor a fan of the Romney's US politics.
But there is not a religion in the world that one could not find beliefs and practice absurd and easy to poke fun at---including mine.
I hope the victim and his family are OK.
Diane
[Edited on 6-17-2009 by jdtrotter]
[Edited on 6-17-2009 by jdtrotter]
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Kisses to you, Diane. Just don't let hubby find out.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Interesting. Perhaps Meredith is mighty persuasive. Or, more likely, a ransom was paid. |
I doubt they paid any ransom. There wasn't enough time between the kidnapping last night and the release to negotiate a ransom, get the money and drop
it off. It is far more likely the cops -- who are all in cahoots with the kidnappers -- felt way too much heat from on high and had him turned loose.
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Diane,
My friends are teachers in the Academy (High School).
George Romney, indeed was born in Colonia Juarez, and was the Governor of Michigan. Those Romneys get around.
An ancestor of my friends (Nelle Hatch) wrote the definitive book about Colonia Juarez titled - what else - Colonia Juarez - so I found a copy and
sent it to them. It took me two years to find one and now there are about 50 for sale. Go figure.
Interestingly, they had land problems even then. They purchased some land there in the late 1800's, moved from mostly the Salt Lake area, settled in,
some in caves they dug, then found out the were a couple of miles from where they were supposed to be. And moved again.
We have a small collection of Casas Grandes pottery we bought in Mata Ortiz. They used to have horses for transportation, now they all make pottery
and have pickups. A fun place to visit, Nomads.
Neal
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Neal Johns
George Romney, indeed was born in Colonia Juarez, and was the Governor of Michigan. Those Romneys get around.
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That would put his son, Mitt, one small step away from having Mexican citizenship. I don't recall hearing this detail when he ran for the Republican
presidential nomination.
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Mitt was born in Detroit (thanks Google)
George in Colonia Juarez, but grew up in Idaho and Utah. No wonder he is one of those Republican critters.
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Or not.  |
I'm not LDS, but that shows little respect
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Neal Johns
Mitt was born in Detroit (thanks Google)
George in Colonia Juarez, but grew up in Idaho and Utah. No wonder he is one of those Republican critters. |
Timely coincidence here, Neal. A thread started just today which illustrates my point. Perhaps you missed it:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=39316
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Neal Johns
Diane,
My friends are teachers in the Academy (High School).
George Romney, indeed was born in Colonia Juarez, and was the Governor of Michigan. Those Romneys get around.
An ancestor of my friends (Nelle Hatch) wrote the definitive book about Colonia Juarez titled - what else - Colonia Juarez - so I found a copy and
sent it to them. It took me two years to find one and now there are about 50 for sale. Go figure.
Interestingly, they had land problems even then. They purchased some land there in the late 1800's, moved from mostly the Salt Lake area, settled in,
some in caves they dug, then found out the were a couple of miles from where they were supposed to be. And moved again.
We have a small collection of Casas Grandes pottery we bought in Mata Ortiz. They used to have horses for transportation, now they all make pottery
and have pickups. A fun place to visit, Nomads.
Neal |
That has to be are really interesting book. Too bad it seems to be limited now. ---love that whole area, but then again we love all the states in
Mexico for different reasons.
The paved road and fame that has come to Mata Ortiz has been a double edged sword for many reasons---but that seems to be what happens. Lots of
EXCELLENT pottery there, and lots that is not and lots of family feuds and community growing pains.
We had the pleasure a few years ago of meeting Walter Parks there who wrote a book about Mata Ortiz--- he sent us a signed copy that we love.
OK, most of the horses are gone, but as of the last time we were there, they still used this as an attaction for some of the bus loads of tourists
that now arrive from Tuson. The many bus tours are good and bad for the community.
Just a pix I like and it was fun taking a print back to him.
Once we stopped there on our way to Batopillas---we had a ton of bubble wrap and the pottery made it safe and sound.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Neal Johns
George Romney, indeed was born in Colonia Juarez, and was the Governor of Michigan. Those Romneys get around.
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That would put his son, Mitt, one small step away from having Mexican citizenship. I don't recall hearing this detail when he ran for the Republican
presidential nomination. |
Dennis, it did come out as an issue back then, but not for long because he was defeated. He was a US citizen, but not born on US soil and it was an
interesting question.
If anyone wants to read a really interesting story, just google Juan Quezada and Mata Ortiz----it is quite a story.
Diane
BTW Neal, on the thread about our dog, I noticed some beautiful Huichol beaded bowls on your table---I love ours and our yarn art and wish I had more.
[Edited on 6-18-2009 by jdtrotter]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jdtrotter
Dennis, it did come out as an issue back then, but not for long because he was defeated. He was a US citizen, but not born on US soil and it was an
interesting question.
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Thanks, Diane. My confusion grows. I just posted to Neal above so I'll leave it at that.
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