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CaboRon
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Just pointing out how things go both ways. Personally, I would love it if things were enforced on both sides. |
I guess it's safe to assume you're not a landscapeing or cement contractor.  |
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Maybe they should check and see how the USod A does it and learn. HAAAAAA
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Today's newspaper explains what a Mexican has to present to the Canadian embassy in order to get a tourist visa.
A medical examination, a clean police report, and a biography of the applicant with information on his family structure. It all has to be in English
or French!!
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A diferencia de lo que se solicita para ingresar a Estados Unidos, los interesados en viajar a Canadá deben de entregar en inglés o francés la
documentación.
La página oficial de la embajada previene sobre la necesidad de tramitar una constancia de no antecedentes penales, un examen médico y una biografía
del solicitante con “información de la estructura familiar”.
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Buenos suerte, amigos.
[Edited on 7-16-2009 by arrowhead]
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
Today's newspaper explains what a Mexican has to present to the Canadian embassy in order to get a tourist visa.
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Do they have do all this each time? Jeezo...What a bunch of nasty crap.
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The Mexican goverment just announced all Canadian diplomats and goverment workers traveling to Mexico, must now show a Mexican Visa.
All other Canadian Citizens, do not need one.
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One thing that I have despised is that for Mexicans whose income is but a fraction of that in the US, the US fee on a visa application is
non-refundable. That being said, if dozens of diverse countries in Europe can codify so many issues, including a common currency, how sad is it that
the three nations occupying North America can't agree on a consistent practice as to requirements and fees? Sad to think that the Europeans are more
evolved on such issues.
[Edited on 7-16-2009 by Bajahowodd]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
One thing that I have despised is that for Mexicans whose income is but a fraction of that in the US, the US fee on a visa application is
non-refundable. |
Does Mexico refund application fees?
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
One thing that I have despised is that for Mexicans whose income is but a fraction of that in the US, the US fee on a visa application is
non-refundable. |
Does Mexico refund application fees? |
Fees for a Mexican Visa are extremely low compared to what a Mexican loses when his application is not authorized. How would you feel if you lost
1,000 dollars or more if the Mexican goverment denied your application?
That is what a Mexican feels like.
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Thank you, Jesse.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
That is what a Mexican feels like. |
OK.... I'm drowning in tears.
Let me ask again....Does Mexico refund applications?
Yes or no.......
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
That is what a Mexican feels like. |
OK.... I'm drowning in tears.
Let me ask again....Does Mexico refund applications?
Yes or no....... |
Yes or no does not matter. The point is, if you lose your money on a Mexican application, its just 300 dollars or half a weeks worth of work for
somebody making 600 dollars a week. If your making 1000 pesos a week or its equivalent, 80 dollars. Your losing almost a months worth of work.
3 days vs 30 days is more than a significant difference that cannot be ignored with "drowning on tears" remarks.
An American would have to lose 2,400 dollars on an application in order to understand the economic impact this has on the average Mexican.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Does Mexico refund applications?
Yes or no....... |
NO!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Does Mexico refund applications?
Yes or no....... |
NO!
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Uncalled for violence in your response. Would you please edit your bellowing with a pleasant blue or green color? It would be more in line with the
civil conversation we're [not you] are having.
Thank you for your consideration.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Yes or no does not matter. The point is, if you lose your money on a Mexican application, its just 300 dollars or half a weeks worth of work for
somebody making 600 dollars a week. If your making 1000 pesos a week or its equivalent, 80 dollars. Your losing almost a months worth of work.
3 days vs 30 days is more than a significant difference that cannot be ignored with "drowning on tears" remarks.
An American would have to lose 2,400 dollars on an application in order to understand the economic impact this has on the average Mexican.
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I think that's all pure, self-serving bullcrap. You're taking the lower end of the Mexico economic scale and applying it to all Mexicans crossing the
border. That isn't the case and you gawwdam well know it.
The middle class in Mexico has come alive in huge numbers and have money to function much like her counterparts in the US. I live amongst you folks
and I see little difference in economic levels between myself and the thousands of others who shop at WalMart, Costco and Home Depot. Credit cards
everywhere.
The less fortunate arn't there nor are they at the border.
Don't do this "Poor Mexican" sht with me. My eyes are wide open.
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Economics 101
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
If your making 1000 pesos a week or its equivalent, 80 dollars. Your losing almost a months worth of work.
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If I made 1000 pesos weekly I couldn't afford to vacation in Primo Tapia.
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Thank You Dennis
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Yes or no does not matter. The point is, if you lose your money on a Mexican application, its just 300 dollars or half a weeks worth of work for
somebody making 600 dollars a week. If your making 1000 pesos a week or its equivalent, 80 dollars. Your losing almost a months worth of work.
3 days vs 30 days is more than a significant difference that cannot be ignored with "drowning on tears" remarks.
An American would have to lose 2,400 dollars on an application in order to understand the economic impact this has on the average Mexican.
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I think that's all pure, self-serving bullcrap. You're taking the lower end of the Mexico economic scale and applying it to all Mexicans crossing the
border. That isn't the case and you gawwdam well know it.
The middle class in Mexico has come alive in huge numbers and have money to function much like her counterparts in the US. I live amongst you folks
and I see little difference in economic levels between myself and the thousands of others who shop at WalMart, Costco and Home Depot. Credit cards
everywhere.
The less fortunate arn't there nor are they at the border.
Don't do this "Poor Mexican" sht with me. My eyes are wide open. |
Thank You Dennis ...
[Edited on 7-17-2009 by CaboRon]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Does Mexico refund applications?
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NO!
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Oh well, I'll have to attend to this under the screech of the La Paz Fish Wife, Carol.
Tell me, babycakes, since you elected to join our conversation with a flaming response to my civil question....why is it abusive for the US to keep
application fees for Mexicans when Mexico does the same to US applicants and it's deemed OK?
Let me get behind my firewall before you give me your heartfelt reply.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Does Mexico refund applications?
Yes or no....... |
NO!
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Uncalled for violence in your response. Would you please edit your bellowing with a pleasant blue or green color? It would be more in line with the
civil conversation we're [not you] are having.
Thank you for your consideration. |
You are having a civil conversation
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
OK.... I'm drowning in tears.
Let me ask again....Does Mexico refund applications?
Yes or no....... |
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
I think that's all pure, self-serving bullcrap. You're taking the lower end of the Mexico economic scale and applying it to all Mexicans crossing the
border. That isn't the case and you gawwdam well know it.
The middle class in Mexico has come alive in huge numbers and have money to function much like her counterparts in the US. I live amongst you folks
and I see little difference in economic levels between myself and the thousands of others who shop at WalMart, Costco and Home Depot. Credit cards
everywhere.
The less fortunate arn't there nor are they at the border.
Don't do this "Poor Mexican" sht with me. My eyes are wide open. |
Those are "civil" responses
Obtaining a travel visa for Mexico is easy, quick and cheap for US citizens and Canadians.
For Mexicans, besides the high cost of obtaining a US visa, and now it appears a Canadian visa there is the wait, the uncertainty, and often travel
expenses that may or may not result in a visa.
[Edited on 7-17-2009 by jdtrotter]
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Yes or no does not matter. The point is, if you lose your money on a Mexican application, its just 300 dollars or half a weeks worth of work for
somebody making 600 dollars a week. If your making 1000 pesos a week or its equivalent, 80 dollars. Your losing almost a months worth of work.
3 days vs 30 days is more than a significant difference that cannot be ignored with "drowning on tears" remarks.
An American would have to lose 2,400 dollars on an application in order to understand the economic impact this has on the average Mexican.
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I think that's all pure, self-serving bullcrap. You're taking the lower end of the Mexico economic scale and applying it to all Mexicans crossing the
border. That isn't the case and you gawwdam well know it.
The middle class in Mexico has come alive in huge numbers and have money to function much like her counterparts in the US. I live amongst you folks
and I see little difference in economic levels between myself and the thousands of others who shop at WalMart, Costco and Home Depot. Credit cards
everywhere.
The less fortunate arn't there nor are they at the border.
Don't do this "Poor Mexican" sht with me. My eyes are wide open. |
LOL! when it suits you, all of us Mexicans are bunched togheter. But when it doesn´t suit you, we are separated and categorized diferently. Wich one
is it going to be? one day we are all the same people, next day, we are all different and equal to our US counterparts.
Most of my friends are not middle class Mexicans with similar economic levels to americans, and i know how hard it is for them to lose 300 dollars on
an application. Don´t come now and pretend all Mexican Visa applicants can dispose of money like that.
My eyes are also wide open.
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In Tijuana, and most of northern Mexico, a lot of middle and lower middle classes have Visas. This includes managers, secretaries, mechanics, etc who
don´t make more than 1,500 pesos a week. I know, my family was one of them and we didn´t have the same economic level as our american "counterparts".
I have seen how people are denied visas just because the customs agent was in a bad mood. And lets not even get into how long and how hard it is to
get one. Here in Mexico, everybody gets Visas, fast, simple, cheap.
Comparing both processes are like apples and oranges.
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