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squid
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Q.: Why is it that guys living up-north are taking care of Mulege business. Like: Putting topes on a road or not. etc.
Why is it that so many guys - not even living in Baja /// just coming here for a week or two (or three/// - are talking so much Baja???
Can somebody please explain that phenomenon to me?
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mulegemichael
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Well Squid, Mulege is home to a lot of us for 1/2 a year so we like to keep our hands in what's going on down there...that's what this forum is about;
Baja...whether one is there for a couple weeks, a few months, or full time.
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by squid
Q.: Why is it that guys living up-north are taking care of Mulege business. Like: Putting topes on a road or not. etc.
Why is it that so many guys - not even living in Baja /// just coming here for a week or two (or three/// - are talking so much Baja???
Can somebody please explain that phenomenon to me? |
Maybe because not all the people who live there in Baja go out and do weekly reports for us on Nomad, or post photos, or drive a few dirt miles to
take mission ruin photos... You can't have 'too much Baja' in my opinion! Cheers!
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by squid
Q.: Why is it that so many guys - not even living in Baja /// just coming here for a week or two (or three/// - are talking so much Baja???
Can somebody please explain that phenomenon to me? |
Most of us are Baja freaks.... that's the main reason.
Bob H
[Edited on 7-31-2009 by Bob H]
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Phil S
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David K. El Patron is the restaraunt on the northf side. Right/??? (too many senior moments these days) If so. Did you eat there? For so many years
in our early drives down, we would make that one of our 'stops' on the way to Nopolo. some times great food. Other times just so so. Hows the
quality these days? Still will stop by in November on the way down.
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Cypress
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squid, Hang in there. Your opinion is as good as anyone else's. Send pictures. That's a great little strip of ground on both sides of the Rio. The
south side is more of a gringo community than the north side. But, it's all good.
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squid
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well, maybe I was a liitle misunderstood> What I wanted to say is.... Are you guys taking care of your local dirt roads up-north in your home town
or vicinity as much as you try to be present in the www > this forum?
Baja freaks or not. Most of you guys are NOT living here for 1/2 of a year. Not even Mulegemichel. You guys are coming here for 2;3; or 4 weeks and
all sommer long..... nobody here. From April or May till Sept./Oct. Nobody. That is already half a year. That is not living in Mulege. You guys are
guests, no more. No Mulege-Guys, but you are discussing local issues like you are Mulege Citizens. That's what I wanted to express.
I do understand this forum! it is about Baja in general and of course Mulege too. But recommandations from up-north whether or not there should be a
speed bump in Mulege is ..... ???
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Phil S
David K. El Patron is the restaraunt on the northf side. Right/??? (too many senior moments these days) If so. Did you eat there? For so many years
in our early drives down, we would make that one of our 'stops' on the way to Nopolo. some times great food. Other times just so so. Hows the
quality these days? Still will stop by in November on the way down. |
Hi Phil S.... My wife and I have eaten at El Patron (North side of river at the end) twice - both times were very good. There is another family owned
place on the way to El Patron - a very nice two story palapa and when we stopped there for a margarita - there were two daughters that were preparing
them for us. Pineapple margaritas! Oh, and a nice dog! Bob H
PS: I was hoping someone would post some photos of how the malacon progress looks like - thanks in advance... Bob H
[Edited on 8-1-2009 by Bob H]
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by squid
well, maybe I was a liitle misunderstood> What I wanted to say is.... Are you guys taking care of your local dirt roads up-north in your home town
or vicinity as much as you try to be present in the www > this forum?
Baja freaks or not. Most of you guys are NOT living here for 1/2 of a year. Not even Mulegemichel. You guys are coming here for 2;3; or 4 weeks and
all sommer long..... nobody here. From April or May till Sept./Oct. Nobody. That is already half a year. That is not living in Mulege. You guys are
guests, no more. No Mulege-Guys, but you are discussing local issues like you are Mulege Citizens. That's what I wanted to express.
I do understand this forum! it is about Baja in general and of course Mulege too. But recommandations from up-north whether or not there should be a
speed bump in Mulege is ..... ??? |
Squid--------Anyplace that someone invests their money in is of concern to them, and they are very interested and involved in what is happening there,
and do have opinions--------this is only natural.
It is hard for me to believe that this is a threat to the "locals"-----it is just an opinion, and should be considered as that, and only that, it
seems to me.
I guess I don't understand your concern, or comments. 
Barry
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by squid
well, maybe I was a liitle misunderstood> What I wanted to say is.... Are you guys taking care of your local dirt roads up-north in your home town
or vicinity as much as you try to be present in the www > this forum?
Baja freaks or not. Most of you guys are NOT living here for 1/2 of a year. Not even Mulegemichel. You guys are coming here for 2;3; or 4 weeks and
all sommer long..... nobody here. From April or May till Sept./Oct. Nobody. That is already half a year. That is not living in Mulege. You guys are
guests, no more. No Mulege-Guys, but you are discussing local issues like you are Mulege Citizens. That's what I wanted to express.
I do understand this forum! it is about Baja in general and of course Mulege too. But recommandations from up-north whether or not there should be a
speed bump in Mulege is ..... ??? |
Squid,
As Barry says, "I guess I don't understand your concerns" either.
FYI, I am a 5 month resident in Mulege with a major investment. I pay taxes. I have a Fideocomiso. My home is beautiful and my neighbors are
wonderful. I have been active in community affairs, both in my immediate community and also with the locals. I speak Spanish and care about the
Mexican people. I have lived full time in mainland Mexico during the 1980s. I know the culture
I am the one who brought up the speed bump issue. I am very concerned for the reasons I have already expressed. I have also exchanged dialog with you,
acknowledging the merit of your position that speed bumps could possibly cause an accident...a vehicle bouncing off of one and into a family or
whatever. I am not a great lover of speed bumps but I see them as a necessary deterrent to endangering any community and also to prevent kicking up so
much dust. I am not stuck on speed bumps but I am concerned and looking for solutions...the same as I would here in Northern California where I am a
member of our neighborhood homeowners' association.
I am involved. I am not a vigilante or a crank or a busybody. Those who know me know that I am pretty laid back. I am retired from teaching and am
loving my life. I am a lifetime, multidisciplinary artist which feeds my soul and keeps me engaged in life.
Sometimes I am wrong and often I am right. I consider my role here on the BajaNomad (and anywhere) to be helpful. I also try to entertain with humor.
Sometimes that goes over well and sometimes it falls flat. (In Spanish the expression is: me cayo gordo...it falls on me fat. Cool, huh?) When someone
can show me where I am wrong, with intelligent dialog and examples, I will acquiesce. I sleep well at night. You will always know where I stand. You
can depend on me. That is my gift of trust to which my friends will attest.
So, what is your point? Are you really trying to be constructive? My opinion is, no you aren't. So I am listening. Prove your love and commitment to
the Mulege community. Do you live there full time? If so, how does that make you better than part-timers?
Some people conceal their identities and they feel that gives them license to be sh*t disturbers. I really don't detect much benevolence in your
posts. If you are man enough to defend your stance, so be it. That is your choice. I won't belabor your intent. Some people are just that way.
You may have noticed that there is a troll who is obsessed by me. He is a coward who keeps reappearing under different pseudonyms. I think I know who
he is. He has compiled every bit of information about me which I have posted here on the Bajanomad through the years. Then he has used this
information as departure points to twist and spew hatred. He has threatened my life because of my political views. He has accused me of being a whiner
because of my casita being flooded. Actually my posts have been positive reports on how the community has pulled together under pretty stressful and
expensive circumstances, and those posts were solicited by other Nomads. He has tried to get to me by calling me a "queer". He couldn't be any further
from the truth. He doesn't like my politics. I will debate anyone who has a brain about politics. They don't have to agree with me. Ask Dennis or
Barry. Only the chicken hearted hides behind his Avatar and hurls insults and calls names. I don't feed that troll. I report him like Doug has
requested. He is not a presence that any Nomad needs or enjoys. He is a very insignificant nutcase but he is a nuisance.
I am not inferring that you are that troll or any troll at all but you do have an unpleasant edge to your posts.
I probably know you. Maybe I am not understanding your intent. In my opinion you are trying to call out and insult all gringos who have an interest in
Mulege. Why?
I know, I know. I am too preachy to a fault. But I am not a doormat. People p*ss me off and they will hear about it.
Who I am is no mystery. I am Tony and I live in The Orchard. Come on. Man up and reveal yourself.
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Crusoe
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Right ON Tony.....Very well stated. Tell it like it is!! ++C++ 
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Bob H
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Toneart.... I love the way you express yourself. Nothing hidden, pure and straight forward, as always! All of your posts are very well thought out
and addressed properly. Just love it.
Bob H
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mulegemichael
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And Squid, we DO live in Mulege half the year; from end of sept to may...do the math..and i WILL give my opinion on what goes on in our town because
it affects me as i live on the river road...thank you very much.
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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mulegemichael
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Oh, and Bob H, El Patron, at the end of the north river road is still a little shaky, foodwise...sometimes it's good, sometimes it's terrible..we all
got sick from the food there this past may..the "other" restaurant, right next door, is Pancho Villas, and the food and service there has NEVER
disappointed us..it's owned and operated by a family and they work hard to please...but i probably shouldn't be giving my opinion here cause i don't
live in Mulege year round.
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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Russ
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Squid, I usually don't respond to posts that insinuate gringos have no business speaking their mind about their adopted homes/communities. You as a
business man in the area should and believe have requested advice from us.
"Can somebody please explain that phenomenon to me?"
I'm sorry that you are angry with us. We have chosen to spend a part of our lives here because we love the people, culture and a way of life Mexico
has offered us and especially Mulége and the surrounding areas. As a first or second home, of course we have an interest in what is going on and how
we may participate. I think this site is a good example of the love of Baja we all share. If this upsets you then I'm not sure what you can do. Since
you speak and write English well at some point you've learned a lot about us. We are not here to change your culture. In fact some of us, including
me, have or will move to more Mexican country setting. Progress is inevitable and in most instances desired. Mulége is no longer a pueblo. I see it
becoming a destination for world travelers. It is kinda like a young Loreto in a way. Anyway, I hope you'll someday be able to appreciate what we
offer in friendship and concern for "our" community. Of course everything above is just my thoughts in trying to answer your question.
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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Cypress
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mulegemichael, Russ, toneart, squid, You all share an interest in a great place. A good idea is a good idea, regardless of whether it comes from a
full time resident, a part time resident or a passing tourist. And a bad
idea is just that. It'll be ignored.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Phil S
David K. El Patron is the restaraunt on the northf side. Right/??? (too many senior moments these days) If so. Did you eat there? For so many years
in our early drives down, we would make that one of our 'stops' on the way to Nopolo. some times great food. Other times just so so. Hows the
quality these days? Still will stop by in November on the way down. |
YES... for the second time in a row the food was great and the price was 'cheap' and the location was "a million bucks"!
Photos of the place in my trip report 'Baja 709' (July, 2009)!
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mulegemichael
Oh, and Bob H, El Patron, at the end of the north river road is still a little shaky, foodwise...sometimes it's good, sometimes it's terrible..we all
got sick from the food there this past may..the "other" restaurant, right next door, is Pancho Villas, and the food and service there has NEVER
disappointed us..it's owned and operated by a family and they work hard to please...but i probably shouldn't be giving my opinion here cause i don't
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Michael.... Pancho Villas... that's the other place I was referring to. Excellent service and drinks/food, for sure. Loved it. This place is very
special and the family that runs it really seeks to please! I would recommend this establishment to anyone who wants a great dining experience, Baja
style! And, here is a shot of this place.
Bob H
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toneart
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I second that! Nice people. Great food. Once while I was there a fisherman pulled up right in front and brought in a Jurel (Yellowtail) he has just
caught. We essentially bought it through the restaurant as they cooked it up for us...fresh...to order. MMMmmmmm!
Bob, thank you for your earlier compliment.
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Mulegena
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North River Road businesses
I love the folks at both restaurants, El Patron and Pancho Villa-- they're all wonderful people!
Don Chano is a great place to homebase while in Mulege, camp or house rental. Walk to town, very, very pretty fruit trees, quiet, private and safe
family-owned and operated place, my favorite arroyo get-away-to-think-place is right there.
Gringo's is nearby (at the speedbump) for charter-boat rental.
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