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astrobaja
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Skeet,
It would only be a last resort for us, but I also do not especially want a permanent 2000 lb visitor. Because we have water and some grazing and I
think he thinks our horses are the closest things to a cow he has seen in a while!
A bull is one of the most dangerous animals I can think of, very unpredictable, fairly fast, and frighteningly strong! I don't feel safe wandering
near him without a quick getaway route, so I think I'm within my rights as a ranchowner to take action seeing as I have taken steps to find his owner.
I'll give it a week after that I don't want him around anymore! Eventually we will need to fence our property, but its a large undertaking as its 1200
acres!
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bajalou
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Baja is "Open Range" meaning unless you fence animals out, they have the right to go wherever they want. Animals are not considered trespassers
unless they get into a fenced area. So unless you have fences, the bull has all the rights here.
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Oggie
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On a recent trip to our home in BOLA, in the grande vado after the turn-off, this fella wandered onto the road. He stood his ground. Check-out the
skid marks. We backed-up and had to drive around him.
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astrobaja
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Lou, I get what you are saying about the open range idea. Thats why we are initiating steps to get our land officialy declared "nature preserve
status" through the organization CONANP.
http://www.conanp.gob.mx/
This would qualify us for help putting up fencing, money for greenhouses (replanting of indegenous species), plus it would provide a large buffer
zone to the San Pedro Martir park. If we had problems in the future with errant cattle it will give us some legal teeth to take action. The park BTW
has officially banned cattle, and they are allowed to shoot on sight any stray animal which are then donated to local hospitals. Military are
monitoring cattle and the brands, so that ranchers will respect the new status. I fully agreee with the new policy as the park has many endemic
species that need protection, theres plenty of range land at the lower non park elevations.
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Cypress
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All I can say is "go for it". Go ahead and kill your neighbors bull. With what? Your bare hands? You gonna run over him with your rig. Unload on him
with illegal firearms? Better leave that bull alone.
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astrobaja
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Jeez Cypress, I said I'd give it some time! I have a AIR rifle thats it so obviously I would'nt do it myself! BUT it is a dangerous animal, so after I
fashion I will take action.
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Cypress
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astrobaja, With any luck, it'll probably move on to greener pastures. And you won't have to worry about it.
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Skeet/Loreto
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Astrobaja>
Were you able to read any Brand on this animal?
Reason I ask is that in the past year there has been a large increase in Stolen Cattle from all along the Border. It just might be that this is the
case and the animal is from the States.
Do not be afraid of the Bull> Get a bucket, put some Corn in it and feed the Bull, just stay away from its Rear.
Keep the Bull around til you finds its owner, I am sure that he would appreciate your Concerns,
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oldjack
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I have been told that there are moutain lions in that area... maybe it will take care of you intruder..... have you seen/heard any signs of mountain
lions in the park?????
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Quote: | Originally posted by oldjack
I have been told that there are moutain lions in that area... maybe it will take care of you intruder..... have you seen/heard any signs of mountain
lions in the park????? |
I've seen them up by Laguna Hanson. I think that bull would stomp hell out of a Mountain Lion.
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Oso
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Tried running him off with firecrackers?
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by Oso
Tried running him off with firecrackers? |
Or a red cape? Here's that Hemingway moment you've always dreamed of.
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astrobaja
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No sign of el toro today, maybe he got bored and went down the hill...
He had no brand I could see, just a yellow ear tag with a no.
Yes we have moutain lions (although never seen one) but they are way too smart to try tackling something that big, lots of easy prey like bunnies and
such.
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Crusoe
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If a seasoned old tough male Mt. Lion was real hungry that bull would not have a chinamens chance in a confrontation. Mt. Lions are quick, smart and
stronger than hell. ++C++
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Why not throw a rope around his mid section and get on for a little bull riding? Have some fun. Invite the neighbors.
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