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Crusoe
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Here in Washington State among the San Juan Islands, there is an Island by the name of Lopez. Serviced by a ferry. It is about 20miles long and 5miles
wide. It is mostly old farms. It is a major destination resort and playground as well. EVERYONE WAVES continually at every one else, whether or not
they are a local or just a visiting tourist. In time if one spends any length of time there, pretty soon you will be inconvienced by this gesture,
because when there is a ferry line of traffic that has just unloaded ,you could possibly have waved 150 times on your 10 minuet trip to the store.
Takes all kinds. Whew!! ++C++
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Sallysouth
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I learned from my son- in law a most "local" type of wave.It really isn't a wave per say, but a sign of fingers/hand.Index and second finger pointed
out and slightly down, thumb out, last two fingers tucked in.All the locals know that one.Anyone else know about this "secret"(not) hand sign?
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Martyman
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Sally;
Are you in the Crips or the Bloods?
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Sallysouth
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Martyman, neither!Just a Bajalovin Gramma!!I guess I didn't know the crips and bloods do that.Haven't been around any gang areas lately(never, that I
know of!) How come all the Mexicanos that Mijo knows do this sign??He is a hunter and fisherman!!
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shari
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your hangin with the right amigos now sally...this "cool dude" wave is widely used here and often accompanied by "Quiole" pronounced keyoolay
stretching out the ooooo sound...super cool...sort of means...hows it hangin bro...or whassssuuuup.
[Edited on 7-30-2009 by shari]
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I do the 2 finger and a thumb "wave" with the other 2 fingers still curled in a relaxed position. Just takes too much effort to fully open the other 2
I guess.
While out for a run:
When in Baja:
A wave and a upwards nod to pedestrians (usually reciprocated)
A thumbs up and an "orale" to other runners (a nod back at me)
A crisp salute to troop transports (usually reciprocated)
When at home in San Diego:
A wave and a upwards nod to pedestrians and joggers (response: mostly reciprocated but I sometimes get the "What are you? Diseased?" look)
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bent-rim
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I ride an old Paris/Dakar BMW and I share a wave with other motorcycles, usually I flash a low peace sign, except when I'm in a tight turn and need to
focus. Most bikers wave back except for Harley riders for some reason. Very few wave back. It's cool though, I've passed more Harleys than any
other brand of bike.
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vandy
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Hi Sally...I do that wave also. Just the hand on top of the steering wheel with the two fingers and thumb extended. I always get the "peace" or
"victory" sign back, and it's perfect for the cops too.
I don't want to get TOO familiar!
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Sallysouth
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OK! So I got it right! Thanks Shari, digger, and vandy!It's just another Baja sign, but it seems to invoke a comadrie (sp) feeling.U so got it vandy!!
But Shari, if you are traveling say, 40 mphs, they can't hear you saying Eeehoooolay!! edit to include response to Postholedigger:Thats all good stuff,
ya got it goin on.!! Orale is always good. (wheres Martyman??)This is a cool thread you started!
[Edited on 7-31-2009 by Sallysouth]
[Edited on 7-31-2009 by Sallysouth]
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sallysouth
OK! So I got it right! Thanks Shari, digger, and vandy!It's just another Baja sign, but it seems to invoke a comadrie (sp) feeling.U so got it vandy!!
But Shari, if you are traveling say, 40 mphs, they can't hear you saying Eeehoooolay!! edit to include response to Postholedigger:Thats all good stuff,
ya got it goin on.!! Orale is always good. (wheres Martyman??)This is a cool thread you started!
[Edited on 7-31-2009 by Sallysouth]
[Edited on 7-31-2009 by Sallysouth] |
After having worked with gangs in California, we had to learn to appreciate that wave in a whole new way---but just like saying Hola to everyone we
see anywhere in town, we learned. 
Now, I wonder what would happen in downtown San Diego if one were to greet everyone who came into a restaurant and then when leaving the restaurant,
tell everyone one saw eating to enjoy their meal.
Diane
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Martyman
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Does Quiole mean "whassup homefries?" I think I got it now.
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Sallysouth
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Martyman..
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Santiago
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jdtrotter
but just like saying Hola to everyone we see anywhere in town, we learned.
Diane |
Uh-oh. Learned what? What am I doing wrong?
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Santiago
| Quote: | Originally posted by jdtrotter
but just like saying Hola to everyone we see anywhere in town, we learned.
Diane |
Uh-oh. Learned what? What am I doing wrong? |
We just were not used to greeting everyone we ever see in town, and in Asuncion, everyone says hello.
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bent-rim
I've passed more Harleys than any other brand of bike. |
Motorcycle riders are a rare breed. Harley riders are a dime a dozen.
I've had several bikes of all stripes... Mainly British and German. The only pig I ever owned was a Harley. 
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Martyman
Does Quiole mean "whassup homefries?" I think I got it now. |
Some of you may be shocked to know what "Quiole" really means:
First of all, the Q at the beginning of the word does not belong there. Oh, it is probably a phonetic interpretation of the sound some make while
uttering it. When put in print, you will find many different spellings of a word.
What they are really saying is "Hijo-Le!" (Son of her). Within the culture, blasphemous insults may be hurled among friends. If you are friendly and
smiling and/or showing a hand sign that is a universal greeting, you are among "friends".
I have always heard Hijo-Le!, or Hijole! used more as an exclamation, meaning....Wow! That is incredulous!...used with  and the head tossed back like a backward nod. They often stretch the
Eeeeee out. They are almost always smiling when the say it. It is a reaction to something.
Why is it blasphemous? Well it is short for hijo de la . Think about what that means in Biblical terms. Son of the one who was******...inferring that
Mary wasn't a virgin. It is an idiom. (Hijole!)
I wouldn't worry about using the term. It is in wide usage and is meant in friendly terms...unless it is not. If intended as an insult towards someone
you are angry with, you'd better be prepared to back it up...or run.
[Edited on 7-31-2009 by toneart]
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shari
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with all due respect mr.tone...hiloje is a different animal I do believe....but in case I am wrong...quiole has morphed into a harmless way of saying
whatzzzup homey....sort of like "a la bestia" which sort of means no way manand is acceptable for kids to say...but is a nice way of saying a la
verga....oooops sorry...perdona la groseria pero fue un ejemplo no mas.
[Edited on 7-31-2009 by shari]
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
with all due respect mr.tone...hiloje is a different animal I do believe....but in case I am wrong...quiole has morphed into a harmless way of saying
whatzzzup homey....sort of like "a la bestia" which sort of means no way manand is acceptable for kids to say...but is a nice way of saying a la
verga....oooops sorry...perdona la groseria pero fue un ejemplo no mas.
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Shari, I think we are both right. I think it is an idiom that has indeed morphed. On the other hand,Quiole may indeed be a word of a different animal.
It does not translate when I ran it through Google Translate. If it is another word altogether, I would be surprised. What does Juan say about this?
I offer what I know to be true, but I certainly don't know everything. It may be that Quiole is a different word altogether. I am certainly open to be
refuted. I will be just slightly embarrassed, but more importantly, I will be better informed.
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BajaNuts
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I am seeing 3 different words from Shari and Toneart
Quiole
hiloje
Hijole
contributing to the confusion maybe or just a typo?
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shari
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yup...mine is a typo...should be hijole...some guests(nomad lurkers) just left and i had to have some cubas with them, being the sympathetic hostess I
am...lo siento...juan says "no se"
toneart...i am rarely embarrased when I have erred...to err is human and we learn by errors...thus we evolve and become better people.
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