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[*] posted on 8-4-2009 at 03:04 PM


I agree completely with gnukid. The D40 has many advantages over the D60-70-80s if you accept the fact that 6 megapixels is plenty.

And the 18-200 is a very versatile lens. You probably would never need another lens.

Check the used market. You will certainly find a used D40.




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[*] posted on 8-4-2009 at 03:04 PM


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As goat mentioned having a pocket sized point and shoot makes a lot of sense. I too have one, it is the Panasonic DMC LX1 and has been a great companion on my trips to Baja. Some of my pictures that most of you have seen were taken with it. ...


The Panasonic Lumix DMC LX1 is fantastic. I use mine everyday and I have a few friends who even publish photo books from the camera with terrific results. The LX1 is 10megapixel I think. You can get insurance when you purchase for a year that will replace it no questions asked.

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[*] posted on 8-4-2009 at 03:32 PM


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Quote:
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artwork(platitude)....



Oh my.....are they one and the same?


If the SLR camera is too heavy like so many pro cameras and has a strap that digs into your neck you won't carry it for long.

Or if its a point and shoot but doesn't fit in your pocket because of an odd shape you won't bring it either because there is no place to carry it. Ergonomics are important issues for Nomads.

Perhaps this headcam mount camera with waterproof case is a good choice for afternoon drinks in Baja for example at BuenaVentura Restaurant. jaja

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[*] posted on 8-4-2009 at 03:46 PM


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FYI.... I have both Olympus and Pentax point and shoot digitals.... I am lusting after those more panoramic and close-up shots I see in these postings.... maybe posters could credit the camera/lense when offering us their artwork(platitude)....


Most cameras have a 16:9 mode which does give a nice wide shot and on my Lumix it takes more pixels. 16:9 is also the default of HD monitors so it fits the modern high def screen nicely-many also have a usb plug in or card reader on the tv so you can view your shots immediately in big size and detail at home or at local bars right away. jaja. So, I use by default as a norm for shooting then crop as I like.

This shot is from the simplest Lumix camera which costs under $200

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[*] posted on 8-4-2009 at 04:01 PM


I use a Nikon D40. Works good for moving targets like birds, marine mammals, kids. I have two lenses. It's also good to have a second camera, a small point and shoot. There are a bunch of those; mine is no longer made.



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[*] posted on 8-4-2009 at 05:11 PM


I use the D60 and back it up with a Kodak Z612. The Kodak was my all around camera but Nikon optics are noticeably better. I borrowed a Nikon 500mm manual focus and love playing around with it and sometime just leave it on the D60 and use the Kodak as a general all around backup. I don't have the eye for composition as some here do but figure if I shoot enough shots one should turn out really well. I'll post that shot if it happens. Here's a long shot I took with the 500mm today.

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[*] posted on 8-4-2009 at 05:17 PM


Another one cropped a little on the computer

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[*] posted on 8-4-2009 at 06:01 PM


Please also research the Canon 40D. I researched all the new SLR's last year and felt the 40D was the best choice.
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[*] posted on 8-4-2009 at 08:00 PM
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You will be forever happy with a competent DSLR. I think you should save up if you have to and spend the money to get a high quality Canon or Nikon camera. Both have superb DSLRs that will satisfy you for a long time...and teach you a bunch too!

Both companies have "pro sumer" cameras that are superb. They use sensors that are smaller than the full 35 MM sensors on their best cameras but these sensors are still many times larger than "point and shoot" cameras. They get magnificent results. They have MegaPixels in the 15-20 range which is enough for me.

I have a Canon EOS 50D that came in a kit with a Canon EF-S 18-200 IS, USM lens. This combination is superb....fast autofocus, stabilization and quiet focussing so you don't scare the critters. Because of the 1.6 multiplier of the non 35MM sensors on these cameras you effective range for this lens is 29MM to 320MM! Stabilization makes it possible for you to shoot in very low light situations hand held.....I have hand held, sharp shots of the moon at sunset over dark landscapes that are amazing....nothing in the film world comes close without all kinds of tripods and developing tweeks.

The 50D has capability that is almost unbounded. It shoots 6.3 frames per second in the fastest burst mode. I use it to photograph birds in flight....although with a Canon EF 100-400 L IS USM lens....in other words a 160 to 640 MM lens! It has a range of capabilities that are, sometimes, better than the Canon EOS 1D, and Nikon equivalent that cost several times as much. I usually shoot the birds handheld at ISO 400, F5.6 and 2500th of a second. But I can push those numbers all over the place easily.

Further they have the ability to shot RAW...no JPEG compression and the latitude for you to "develop" the shot on your computer with stunning results.

Once you get addicted to high quality gear you are gonna be hooked. The above lens for the bird shots is the first of two "L" Canon lenses I have splurged on because they produce pictures that belong in National Geographic...even for a bozo like me.

The best place for info on these cameras and lenses is www.dpreview.com. They have unbiased, detailed, lenghty data and comment on all good cameras. This web page is really worth your time.

Best of luck...and don't buy no clunkers just 'cause they're "inexpensive."
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[*] posted on 8-4-2009 at 08:21 PM


I'm too lazy to read the entire thread. Don't know if anyone mentioned www.kenrockwell.com. Go there and learn. Then buy a Nikon D40 and save lots of money.
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[*] posted on 8-5-2009 at 09:47 PM


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As goat mentioned having a pocket sized point and shoot makes a lot of sense. I too have one, it is the Panasonic DMC LX1 and has been a great companion on my trips to Baja. Some of my pictures that most of you have seen were taken with it. For oldjack's benefit to see what can be done with a point and shoot here are a few:


Ken, you must have some professional experience. You have a good eye for composition by placing the subject on the golden mean and placing framing objects in the foreground. Many don't know the basics of composition and you can tell by their photos.




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[*] posted on 8-6-2009 at 04:44 AM


Arrowhead,

Thanks for the compliment. I do photography as a hobby not as a proffession. I have been interested in it for most of my life, but have gotten serious about it in the last four years.

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[*] posted on 8-6-2009 at 08:09 AM


O.K. went out last night to the big box store and purchased the Nikon D40 w/two lenses, polarizing filter, uv filter and spent about 2 hours reading the books that came with the kit.... you never know how much you don't know until you start reading/asking questions...

The D40 along with my Canon and Pentax waterproofs should last me for a lifetime.... now to learn how to post pics and I will be a real contributor....
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[*] posted on 8-6-2009 at 08:41 AM


Most of the pictures I take are of the places I go. Taken to remind me of my travels. I don't pay much attention to composition and don't try to have great pictures for others to view. Many of the posters here do wondrous jobs of photography.

Since I like to know where I was, yesterday I bought a Nikon Kookpix P6000. Only thing I don't like, it uses Nikon's batteries, no AA cells. Anyway, the thing I wanted is the built in GPS. Srif III chip like my Garmin Map76CSx. It geo-tags the pictures with the location with the Exif data. This makes it easy (I hope) to locate the pictures along the trails I travel. It also does other things, take pictures in RAW format so they can better be Photoshoped. Has F settings and other stuff that can be manually be set, but I'll probably only use the Auto mode. 4X optical zoom plus digital if you want more, 13.5 megapixel sensor etc.

We'll soon see if it does what I wanted. If not, It still seems to take good pictures.

Small enough to put in a shirt pocket (but fills it up pretty good)

Edit for camera model.

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[*] posted on 8-6-2009 at 09:36 AM


I'm with you Lou. Just got myself a Canon SD 890 IS in the Elph series. 10 megapixels, 5x optical zoom .
When I was young, many moons ago, I was heavily into photography. Black & White. Had my own darkroom and did some semi commercial shoots, like for old folks homes entertainment nights. Fun !! And one of the main things it accompished: it made me quit smoking. Needed the funds for equipment. My favorite 35mm was a Voigtlander, a camera most people have never heard off in the USA.
Now I only shoot pics as a memory to places I've been and those point & shoot cameras do the job just fine.

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[*] posted on 8-6-2009 at 09:54 AM


Good buy on the D40. I bought it because of Ken Rockwell's review and because it is more than I have the skill or interest to use. Plus, when I inevitably drop it into the ocean or drive away with it on my hood, I won't be out of a lot of money. I just bought the new DX 35mm 1.8 lens. Very nice. Got a good deal at amazon. Also get the Nikon flash. Cheap and very good reviews. It is small and still does a good job. My friend has the D90, which is a b-tchin camera but he also spent $1,000 on the body alone. And it really doesn't do that much more than my D40, plus being larger and heavier (and intimidating).
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[*] posted on 8-6-2009 at 12:23 PM


Good purchase, Jack. Have fun with it.
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[*] posted on 8-6-2009 at 12:36 PM


Just curious.... do you use the polarizing filter to take pics of liberals?????
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[*] posted on 8-6-2009 at 01:19 PM


And, the man hijacks his own thread. :lol:
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[*] posted on 8-6-2009 at 01:22 PM


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Just curious.... do you use the polarizing filter to take pics of liberals?????


I find the UV/Haze seems to work the best.:lol:




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