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Bajahowodd
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Jesse- I didn't get soup, and I didn't pee you off. That being said, Architecture is a global thing. What do you picture when someone mentions Greece?
Probably that blue domed structure in Oia on the isle of Santorini. That doesn't mean it's the definitive architecture of Greece. Don't tell me that
you would be happy with palapas being the signiture archetecture of Baja. Just wondering if you just got a delivery of very tough beef.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
Hey Jesse,
Maybe you approve of this "AUTHENTIC MEXICAN VILLAGE" at Loreto Bay. |
Locals call it INFONAVIT for Gringos
For those that donīt know, INFONAVIT is public housing Mexican style.
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DENNIS
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I've seen a lot of INFONAVIT housing but, nothing like that. They look like dog houses.
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Listen up Chilango........... |
JESSE, explain to us gringos just what is up with the Chilango vs. Baja Californian thing. Why do baja natives dislike folks from Mexcio City? Is it
like folks from South Podunk, Iowa disliking New Yorkers?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
JESSE, explain to us gringos just what is up with the Chilango vs. Baja Californian thing. Why do baja natives dislike folks from Mexcio City? Is it
like folks from South Podunk, Iowa disliking New Yorkers? |
It's their nasty superior attitude. Not exclusive to Baja either.
[Edited on 8-20-2009 by DENNIS]
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k-rico
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Snobs, eh?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Snobs, eh? |
Worse. According to them, you live in the provences.
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k-rico
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I understand, I'm from New York.
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Lee
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Baja architecture came from Spain
Must be the arches, too narrow doors, and wrought iron bars over the windows.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Listen up Chilango........... |
JESSE, explain to us gringos just what is up with the Chilango vs. Baja Californian thing. Why do baja natives dislike folks from Mexcio City? Is it
like folks from South Podunk, Iowa disliking New Yorkers? |
Its a long topic. First thing i would say is that Baja Californians live in the least populated state of Mexico. This as many of you know, gives you
considerable time by yourself. Privacy. Thats why locals are people who few words. Chilangos on the other hand come from a sardine like packed city.
They are never alone, and grow up talking talking talking, and elbowing their way into everything.
We locals really dislike their never ending talk and necessity to talk about themselves. We just dont get it. We also find that Chilangos are very
good at pretending they like you, even when they donīt. Locals call it like they see it. If they donīt like you, they donīt pretend to like you.
Another big one, Chilangos ALWAYS think they are right. Its a social thing with them, its like its so competitive in their sardine can, that even when
wrong, they could never admit to it. Locals could care less. Sometimes your right, sometimes your wrong, its life. All you can do is to try to be
right more times than not.
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Russ
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I'm not trying to be difficult or cause a row. But I can't picture what a traditional "Baja" home would look like from the out side. Something with
power & water and nice appliances. Pass on the dish or TV antenna. I like to draw floor plans and each new drawing is a little more utilitarian
(had to look that word up). And each location changes how I'd like it to sit on a lot. I'm not a city person so I'm looking at a large lot with wall
privacy. Small 2 bdrm, say 1200 + sq. ft. or a little more. Jesse or any one have any examples I'd really like to see them.
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Listen up Chilango........... |
JESSE, explain to us gringos just what is up with the Chilango vs. Baja Californian thing. Why do baja natives dislike folks from Mexcio City? Is it
like folks from South Podunk, Iowa disliking New Yorkers? |
Its a long topic. First thing i would say is that Baja Californians live in the least populated state of Mexico. This as many of you know, gives you
considerable time by yourself. Privacy. Thats why locals are people who few words. Chilangos on the other hand come from a sardine like packed city.
They are never alone, and grow up talking talking talking, and elbowing their way into everything.
We locals really dislike their never ending talk and necessity to talk about themselves. We just dont get it. We also find that Chilangos are very
good at pretending they like you, even when they donīt. Locals call it like they see it. If they donīt like you, they donīt pretend to like you.
Another big one, Chilangos ALWAYS think they are right. Its a social thing with them, its like its so competitive in their sardine can, that even when
wrong, they could never admit to it. Locals could care less. Sometimes your right, sometimes your wrong, its life. All you can do is to try to be
right more times than not. |
My wife is a cachanilla, she despises chilangos, who are most of our neighbors. Very tribal.
[Edited on 8-20-2009 by k-rico]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
My wife is a cachanilla, she despises chilangos, who are most of our neighbors. Very tribal.
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The subject whips up the emotions of racism.
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
My wife is a cachanilla, she despises chilangos, who are most of our neighbors. Very tribal.
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The subject whips up the emotions of racism. |
Same race, it's a socio-economic class thing.
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k-rico
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Back to old vs. new architecture. Arches over openings in load bearing walls are no longer needed. Too bad.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Same race, it's a socio-economic class thing. |
I was talking about the intensity of emotions.
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surfer jim
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.....perhaps something built of ....CARDBOARD.....might be more traditional.....
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by surfer jim
.....perhaps something built of ....CARDBOARD.....might be more traditional.....
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Good one.
When I was very young and being driven through Tijuana, I saw so many signs on peoples houses, I thought KOTEX was a land developer.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
mtgoat666,
NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!!  |
jesse:
you love that colonial architecture. you are imperialist, no?
if you want authentic baja architecture, you should go live in a stick-lean-to or cave, and decorate your rocks/yard/walls with pictographs, and you
better throw out the cuisinart and start using a mortero and pestel.
anywho, you sound like prince charles arguing against modernism and favoring return to architecture of the olden feudal days. you also sound like don
quixote.
you think baja is all about rural. the vast majority of baja citizens live in urban TJ and ensenada and the smaller urbanized areas.
if you want all your neighbors to live to your aesthetics, go build a master planned community yourself, and call it jesseville
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
mtgoat666,
NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!! |
jesse:
you love that colonial architecture. you are imperialist, no?
if you want authentic baja architecture, you should go live in a stick-lean-to or cave, and decorate your rocks/yard/walls with pictographs, and you
better throw out the cuisinart and start using a mortero and pestel.
anywho, you sound like prince charles arguing against modernism and favoring return to architecture of the olden feudal days. you also sound like don
quixote.
you think baja is all about rural. the vast majority of baja citizens live in urban TJ and ensenada and the smaller urbanized areas.
if you want all your neighbors to live to your aesthetics, go build a master planned community yourself, and call it jesseville
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I was raised in TJ, and i have family all over rural Baja. IF you had paid attention to my original post. You might have noticed that i was talking
about new development. I donīt think anybody can deny that Cabo looks more and more like Cancun, and less like Baja. This is not about money, its
about taste, but you obviously canīt see what i am talking about.
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