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[*] posted on 11-8-2009 at 04:07 PM


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When I drove through there it looked like a dump, it reminded me of Salton City.


Everyone does see things through different eyes. We stayed there a few years ago and really liked it. The cabins looked rustic from the outside, but the inside looked like something out of a Bogart movie. We enjoyed our stay.

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rolleyes.gif posted on 11-9-2009 at 08:55 AM
big deal


1. his land.
2. his business.
3. his country.
4. their rules.
5. their money.
6. success or lack thereof rides solely with him.


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Let us see. More problems in Mulege.
People are paying rent for houses on the beach.
They make the deal and pay.
Later during the lease the landlord raises the rent.
He tells them if they do not want to pay they can leave.
They then lose their investment.
The landlord reaps the profits.
If the landlord does not like you he burns your place down.
The landlord has rifles and fires them all the time to scare the renters and keep them quiet while he kills animals.
The landlord is taking sand from the desert to extend his property into the ocean thus getting more beachfrontage to rent.
Is there anything normal down there?




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[*] posted on 11-9-2009 at 10:14 AM


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1. his land.
2. his business.
3. his country.
4. their rules.
5. their money.
6. success or lack thereof rides solely with him.


I cannot agree with your item 4. What Naranjo is doing is illegal in Mexico too. You can bet your last peso he would not try that on a Mexican. He is an opportunist who does it because he can get away with it.




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[*] posted on 11-9-2009 at 10:26 AM


you're right. let me clarify - i meant they - as in his. not Mexico's.

clearly he makes his own rules. the problem lies in the fact that the local constabulary likely could care less. especially since it it affects expats.




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[*] posted on 11-9-2009 at 11:48 AM


In the immortal words sung by David Bowie...."This is NOT America..sha la la la la...."



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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 06:58 AM


Is there some small claims court like the US?
Can the renters fight back?
You guys seen to think this is ok just because they are in mexico.
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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 11:09 AM
Paradise


I have friends who have places in Naranjos. They put up with their landlord's eccentricities because they enjoy living in 'paradise'. They understand that they don't have a legal lease and can be 'on the street' at a moments notice. None seem to mind.

If it's OK with them, it's OK by me.

Sorry for your misfortune but this could have been avoided by practicing due diligence.

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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 11:31 AM


That's right, always ask your future landlord if he's gonna screw you.



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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 12:19 PM


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That's right, always ask your future landlord if he's gonna screw you.


And likely he will respond " Sure, but no set timeframe "............... " Yet " :biggrin:




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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 12:58 PM


I do not think it is ok. It is reality that it could happen to anyone and there is not much you can do. It is Mexico. My family has "owned" a place on the beach for 49 years. Started with a 99 year lease. That got torn up. Then it was a lease that was one day short of 10 years. That got torn up. Then we were paying yearly for a while. Since the early 80's we were told to pay every six months because it was not clear if we would be able to stay at all. The nature of the beast taught us to treasure each and every day in paradise that we spend down there. In 1983 the storms of El Nino washed a few of our neighbors homes into the ocean and we thought that may be our fate. The last few years with the orgy of development on the coast we were very close to being "Santini-ized" but we are still enjoying it all while we can.

As for being able to do much about it, I doubt it especially if you are a gringo. Over the years our campo naively spent a lot of money on chitty lawyers who told us they could help us protect our "rights" by forming an HOA and appllying for concessions that we later found out could only be achieved if the constitution of the country was changed.

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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 01:02 PM


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In 1983 the storms of El Nino washed a few of our neighbors homes into the ocean and we thought that may be our fate. The last few years with the orgy of development on the coast we were very close to being "Santini-ized" but we are still enjoying it all while we can.



Campo Lopez, perhaps?
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In 1983 the storms of El Nino washed a few of our neighbors homes into the ocean and we thought that may be our fate. The last few years with the orgy of development on the coast we were very close to being "Santini-ized" but we are still enjoying it all while we can.



Campo Lopez, perhaps?


People have told me you are the smartest Nomad ever, I always assumed they meant smartburro? :lol::saint:




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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 06:10 PM


Well, I hope Janey1948, a newby, hasn't been scared off of the Bajanomad.

If someone gets a raw deal anywhere in the world, I think it is the responsible thing to do to post a warning so that others don't make the same mistake.

Baja is full of opportunists as is The United States. Times are getting tougher and more people than ever are trying to figure out how to part you from your money.

While some people can exist in the same development (Naranjo's) without a problem, others may have a very different experience. If Naranjo is indeed cheating people, then a warning to others is probably the only recourse. If I were to relocate off of the river, Naranjo's is a place I would be wary of. A pattern is emerging and I am grateful for the tip off.:)




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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 06:14 PM


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People have told me you are the smartest Nomad ever, I always assumed they meant smartburro? :lol::saint:



I guess that means it wasn't Campo Lopez. :?:
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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 08:27 PM


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People have told me you are the smartest Nomad ever, I always assumed they meant smartburro? :lol::saint:



I guess that means it wasn't Campo Lopez. :?:


No. It means you are smart. You figured it out. :yes:




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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 09:26 PM


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No. It means you are smart. You figured it out. :yes:


Oh Oh...that's not good. It means the memory isn't the first thing to go. :lol:
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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 09:33 PM


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epic verbiage...made me chuckle

Did you learn this phrase from the fireman? This would be a good topic while solving life's problems on the patio of our favorite bar...which I visited two days ago!

On a serious note...

Nice post, head on about living, vacationing or temporarily relocating in Baja...you have once again nailed it! Say hello to the gorgeous one of the family...

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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 09:49 PM


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epic verbiage...made me chuckle

Did you learn this phrase from the fireman? This would be a good topic while solving life's problems on the patio of our favorite bar...which I visited two days ago!

On a serious note...

Nice post, head on about living, vacationing or temporarily relocating in Baja...you have once again nailed it! Say hello to the gorgeous one of the family...

DB


This is one instance where orgy is a bad thing. hee hee.

We were talking about the 1000 coming up and recalled that relaxing afternoon we spent with you and the crew at your "office". Can't wait for the next oppurtunity to do it again!

Best to you and yours!

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[*] posted on 11-12-2009 at 06:39 AM


It looks like Naranjps is a crook.
He takes money for a lease then wants more.
I would avoid renting there
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[*] posted on 11-12-2009 at 10:51 AM


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Originally posted by elgatolocoWe were talking about the 1000 coming up and recalled that relaxing afternoon we spent with you and the crew at your "office". Can't wait for the next oppurtunity to do it again!

Best to you and yours!

EGL


With the race starting on Friday morning and Contingency on Thursday...we'll be in the office for Monday & Tuesday Happy Hour before heading north on Wednesday for all the stuff....Hope to see you. Tim




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