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djh
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Hilarious
I just about laughed coffee out my nose watching the "One semester of Spanish ~ Spanish Love Song" that Fernando posted !!!!
Its all just stuff and some numbers.
A day spent sailing isn\'t deducted from one\'s life.
Peace, Love, and Music
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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
Sorry Nancy, but you can paint this any color you want with as many articles as you can find but you still did not translate it correctly.
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Ron, try to stretch your mind around this concept: My first post here was a one-sentence summarization of news from several sources. Look at it again.
Where did I say I was translating anything? I posted a link to one news article. I showed you several news articles that clearly show that the rock
throwing is happening every day. Instead of addressing the content of the news, you and Fernando want to pick a fight with the messenger. Fernando is
the Sancho Panza to your Don Quixote.
If you have so much energy, why don't you trot on down to the Catastro in Ensenanda and get copies of those documents that show the major US auto
manufacturers all own land down in Colonet -- as you claimed the other day? That would be a good way to establish your credibility here.
You act like a petulant child.
[Edited on 11-12-2009 by arrowhead]
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Eugenio
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
The USA DOJ reports that carjackings and burglaries are up as well on the other side of the border.
[Edited on 11-12-2009 by BajaGringo] |
Bajagringo - I'm not doubting you - but could you give us a specific reference or link for this DOJ inf. I'm familiar with their site. Thanks.
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
Where did I say I was translating anything? |
You are right, you didn't say, you just did.
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The coiled snake aka Sancho Panza
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fdt
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The rock throwers have been caught, they say they did it for fun.
http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/12112...
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The Gull
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They look like they threw weapons of glass destruction EVERY DAY for MONTHS.
This thread has gotten very interesting with the personal assaults.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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Dave
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Personal assults
One of the alleged perps is from New York City.
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
This thread has gotten very interesting with the personal assaults. |
Who, what. were? 
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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
One of the alleged perps is from New York City. |
"ZOO" York City
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doradodan
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No joke!!, two years ago I was assaulted on my way to san felipe broke my sternum and six ribs. Four pound rock through the windshield at 55mph
\"The time spent off the water, I\'m thinking of ways to get back in\"
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Bajahowodd
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Hmmm. Juveniles who had no understanding of the consequences. I guess it's safe for people to venture forth in BC again! That includes you, Mr.
Arrowhead.
[Edited on 11-12-2009 by Bajahowodd]
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by doradodan
No joke!!, two years ago I was assaulted on my way to san felipe broke my sternum and six ribs. Four pound rock through the windshield at 55mph
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I remember...
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=21154#pid1883...
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BajaGringo
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It was a news report I heard while driving the other day. Did a quick search on google and came up with lots of results. Here is just one...
Carjacking on the rise, partly due to economic woes
| Quote: | Originally posted by Eugenio
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
The USA DOJ reports that carjackings and burglaries are up as well on the other side of the border.
[Edited on 11-12-2009 by BajaGringo] |
Bajagringo - I'm not doubting you - but could you give us a specific reference or link for this DOJ inf. I'm familiar with their site. Thanks.
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greybaby
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As a kid growing up in a small town in Montana, we threw snowballs at passing cars on Highway 10 before the interstate was built. One night a "good"
group of us were on our way to sing at the local nursing home when one of the boys threw a snowball at a car going through town and the driver chased
us down at the nursing home. We didn't look like such "good" kids when he got done with his tongue lashing and how we could have killed someone in
his car. Must say, we thought twice (well maybe once) before we threw the next one. But, seriously, this is dangerous and I hope it stops before
someone is seriously hurt.
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Eugenio
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
It was a news report I heard while driving the other day. Did a quick search on google and came up with lots of results. Here is just one...
Carjacking on the rise, partly due to economic woes
| Quote: | Originally posted by Eugenio
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
The USA DOJ reports that carjackings and burglaries are up as well on the other side of the border.
[Edited on 11-12-2009 by BajaGringo] |
Bajagringo - I'm not doubting you - but could you give us a specific reference or link for this DOJ inf. I'm familiar with their site. Thanks.
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Thanks Bajagringo - In this article the DOJ's definicion of carjacking is quoted - but not much else comes from the DOJ.
The article doesn't support the headline.
A reference is made to the NYTimes study that about 300 carjackings occurred in Detroit during August 09. But no mention is made whether that is an
increase or decrease.
The DOJ website only includes stats on carjacking up to about 2006 - and that trend is decreasing. The trend in car burglaries is down (decrease)
through 2008 per DOJ.
Would you mind listing some of the other results you came up with? Preferably something that covers more than one city.
Again - I'm not doubting you - I just like to keep track of some of this stuff.
Thanks.
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BajaGringo
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Eugenio - the original report I heard was on the radio while driving from San Francisco to LA the other day. It wasn't anything I read online and was
included in a general story of the effects of the down economy on California. I have family members working in law enforcement in California and they
also tell me they are seeing a spike in burglaries/robberies where they work in the LA / central California areas.
If I can find a direct link to the DOJ data cited in the report I will u2u it to you.
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Eugenio
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Thanks Bajagringo - or feel free to post any info you have here. I guess what kind of piqued my interest in your comment was that here in Sacramento
we are experiencing significant decreases in almost all types of crime year to year 2008/2009. And Sacramento is practically ground zero as far as
foreclosures and job loss/state furloughs.
http://www.sacpd.org/crime/stats/
The exception is rape in Sacramento - maybe because of domestic stress - I don't claim to know.
Crime in Los Angeles is also down significantly year to year:
http://www.lapdonline.org/
Chau man.
[Edited on 11-13-2009 by Eugenio]
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With few exceptions according to the referenced report, crime in almost all categories is down nationwide 2008 over 2007.
Ken
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_12.html
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Bajahowodd
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That crime rates would drop during tough economic times is counter to both historical experience and intuitition. That said, bear in mind that such
statistical reporting has a built in lag time. Would seem to me that foreclosures and job loss will have been greater in 2009 than 2008. Just thinking
that the next report might just reverse the trend of the last one. Almost every day, while driving around Orange County, I see a newly vacated
storefront.
[Edited on 11-15-2009 by Bajahowodd]
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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
That crime rates would drop during tough economic times is counter to both historical experience and intuitition. |
It is not counter-intuitive when you consider that illegal immigrants are responsible for a disproportionate percentage of the crimes, and they are
moving back to you-know-where in droves. The crime rate drops here and increases there.
Such is the ying and yang of life.
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