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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
As repugnant as Sleeping With The Enemy is, I have said all along that this is a very probable solution. At the time I was saying it, I
thought I was all alone in conceiving this idea. You can look up my posts in the archives. (Arrowhead is good at this). Apparently my idea was so
radical for this board that it didn't get any attention whatsoever, positive or negative. And yet I floated this idea several times in different
strings that dealt with this topic.
My main reason twofold: The violence must end, and "The War on Drugs" is a stupid concept that is unwinnable.
All attitudes, be they moral, religious, medical or legal are certainly considerations, but are irrelevant.
So, although I hate to say "I told you so"...well, "I told you so"!
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Absolutely, drugs aren't going away. What? Nixon declared the war on drugs 40 years ago?
You're not alone. I think most Mexicans agree with you and many Americans in the states that border Mexico. Yahoos from Iowa probably love the war.
Restore the balance of power between the cartels and let the drugs flow to the consumers.
Sort of a quasi-legalization. Much easier and quicker to put into effect than legalization.
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Maybe, but
| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
personal freedom, what an interesting concept... maybe we could start a Country based on that... |
It might have succeeded a couple of hundred years ago. Population increases on a massive scale, combined with an ever increasing access to instant
media have created a Darwinian environment where it has become every man (person) for themselves, but not in the best sense. Rather, how we can scam
one another.
[Edited on 12-22-2009 by Bajahowodd]
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oldlady
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What argument(s) could be stronger in support of legalizing drugs than that of personal freedom?
Darwinian theory would support that those who can use drugs intelligently will survive and those that don't will either OD outright or degrade over
time toward early demise.
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Oldlady: The agrument that it is personal Freedom is fine, BUY What about the Thousands of CHILDREN every year that are killed by those Scummy Mind
Altering Drugs taken by someone who drives a Car???
Is the socalled Freedom to take DOPE much more Precious than the Life of a Child??
Just look at the History of DOPE users. They are of the Weak part of Society, they cannot get close to beating the Non-users. They are the Scaredy
CAts of our Society. They cannot accept Reality. They are the PARSITES of the Culture!!
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oldlady
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Skeet, children are killed every year by irresponsibile adults. Doesn't make it acceptable. Children are also victims of this drug war and many die
as a result. Thousands of children grow up in neighborhoods virtual prisoners of drug gangs.
The boundary of the freedom to do anything is the point at which exercising that freedom could harm someone else. Penalties for going beyond that
boundary while using drugs or alcohol whether it be driving or anything else should be severe, more so than they are in most states.
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oldlady
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They know that and they do.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oldlady
They know that and they do. |
Let me in...please.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Cartels where in many parts of Mexico free to do as they wanted, this is still true in many areas, but in many places, including Tijuana, you don't
see the cartel gunmen drive around the city in broad daylight killing people anymore. What Calderon did was to postpone the takeover of many areas of
Mexico by drug cartels, and he had no choice. Theres a big political aspect of this war that barely gets mentioned. The PRI is behind a lot of the
cartels and is waging war against the president in order to win the next elections.
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How did it all start? Wasn't it with De la Madrid inheriting a broke country and sending his boy, Díaz Bartlet, to the cartels with an offer that, if
they left there money in Mexico, they would be left alone? Yes, it was.
A presidential act without checks and balances.
The cartels were left to fester and grow to the point that, when their presence was huge, their demands were undeniable.
The a-hole president who gave them free rein forgot when to tighten the leash and the animal ends up controling the trainer.
That is Mexico today.
What now? Isolate Mexico from the world business community. Purge it of it's infection. Hunt and kill the enemy.
All of that would be effective but for the out of control United States. That's where "Purge and Kill" needs to begin.
New Bill of Rights. New weapons. New tomorrow.
[Edited on 12-22-2009 by DENNIS]
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Culican- anyone dare to post picture of the Shrine of "Jesus Malverde?"
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http://media.photobucket.com/image/jesus%20malverde/eu0688/m...
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another aspect to this story which should be considered, was the void which was left when the U.S. and the Columbian government took out pablo escobar
and the medellin cartel a few years back..
mexico has always supplied pot, black tar heroin and some other drugs to the united states.. mostly through the mexican mafia.. but, the change up in
columbia left a big opening for a lot of folks for the distribution into the states..
but the really big money was the "coke" ..... and apparently still is... very popular with many americans
not sure how "the economic down turn" has impacted the trade... to far removed from things to really have any idea what is really going on.. other
than "boots on the ground" around where i'm staying..
the other night we had movement around the perimeter.. military folks running around most of the night.. they had been down the road just the night
before and rousted a bunch of "americano's" in the cantamar area.. while looking for someone..
me, i stayed low and didn't look out any windows... not much you can do when they are moving all around you.. didn't think it was wise to "go outside
and ask them what they were doing"
[Edited on 12-22-2009 by wessongroup]
[Edited on 12-22-2009 by wessongroup]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
me, i stayed low and didn't look out any windows... |
Makes it hard to be a credible reporter, doesn't it.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
me, i stayed low and didn't look out any windows... |
Makes it hard to be a credible reporter, doesn't it. |
was never my intent... i'm here for a vacation.. not fill in duty for the local news station.. and no i don't want anyone coming by for an
interview... i forget everything just a moment ago..
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Nope
| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
they had been down the road just the night before and rousted a bunch of "americano's" in cantamar.. while looking for someone..
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The military was never in Cantamar rousting Gringos, or anyone else.
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i have changed the statement to the "cantamar area".. which is what i meant to say... the site which was in fact searched was north of cantamar across
the bridge about 1/3 mile.. the rose ranch.. but, then most folks don't have any idea where rose ranch is located, including me....
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Rose Ranch?
| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
i have changed the statement to the "cantamar area".. which is what i meant to say... the site which was in fact searched was north of cantamar across
the bridge about 1/3 mile.. the rose ranch.. but, then most folks don't have any idea where rose ranch is located, including me....
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You mean Rancho Reynoso?
You mentioned you lived just up the road. Where's that?
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Yes, Rancho Reynoso/El Pescador.. would add that the second day down in October, saw a "cigarette" boat making it's way from La Salina to Rosarito
across Descanso Bay at about 100 mph.. the very next day there was a Mexican naval vessel anchored out front of where we were at that time.. La
Mission. And for the next few days there were armed troops in humv's with 50's going up and down the beach. They were also checking any places which
they "thought" might afford one "cover". There we also air strikes, with helicopters into La Salina, can say about anything else, La Salina is down
wind and I could not make out any firing.. but the fourth helicopter was "med" marked.. there has been a lot of movement in the past month in a half
from south of Rosarito down to Primo Tapia.. check points moved, armed patrols walking on the old road in teams of 5-6, armed with armor and back up
close by with 50 cal..
Don't claim to know everything but do know what I see and hear... we are in the suck right around here
Seems to be the staging area for the next to the last leg getting stuff into the States, at least that is the way it appears to me..
I'm keeping low, and know that s*** happens... but, we still go to Primo for food, water, propane many other things, also go to Rosarito a couple of
times a week too. But, I'm finding that Primo has just about everything you need.. plus some great places to eat.. as does El Pescador.. still like
their "chicken frahitas"
Right now it's spitting outside, with wind.. but appears to be breaking up to some degree.. agree with "we need the rain".. big time!!!
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