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Mexicorn
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La Famillia aka mata Zetas. None of their members are allowed to use meth.
No one in Michocan is allowed to use meth.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Jesse,
Where does the Michoacan based La Familia cartel fit in? Are they a relatively new organization?
They have recently used bombs in their terror tactics. I really hope that doesn't catch on with the other cartels. Very scary.
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They are also allies of the sinaloa cartel, thus their meteoric rise.
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Donjulio
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_transnational_anti-crime_an...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_drug_trafficking
http://www.ciadrugs.com
http://www.narconews.com/Issue51/article3031.html
This is why it isnt going to end anytime soon.
[Edited on 12-23-2009 by Donjulio]
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
These numbers tell me the goverment is actually supporting one cartel and attacking the other, wich would explain the violence.
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That the government would 'play' one cartel against the other isn't surprising. It's classic warfare tactics. My concern is that there is significant
evidence that various political factions have allied with and/or are, in some fashion, being controlled by competing cartels. So the penultimate
question would be:
Will this strategy ultimately lead to the cartel's destruction or is it simply a devilish ploy employed to consolidate political control and
strengthen Mexico's oligarchy?
What's your opinion?
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TonyC
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| Quote: | Originally posted by surfer jim
It's really more about getting rid of the cartels than guarding the families.As long nothing is done nobody will be safe anywhere.
[Edited on 12-22-2009 by surfer jim] |
Your opinion....my opinion is that it's about family. How can anyone do there job/duty when there's no protection for your love ones. The one big
reason nothing can be accomplished on a large scale is because of retaliation, reprisal against the individuals family. Why do you think they wear
mask, sent their family to the United State or else where....if they can afford it.
Jesse's on the money, stupid is stupid does. Unbelievably incompetent.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
If he has not already done so, the President of Mexico needs to make a declaration of war against the drug cartels and their criminal element plaguing
Mexico. The President needs to invoke Article 29 of the Mexican Constitution temporarily suspending all rights and establishing martial law and
curfews. All of the Mexican Armed Forces need to deploy and sweep across Mexico starting at one end of Mexico sweeping through to the other side and
up and down the peninsula of Baja California searching every home every rancho every building and under every rock arresting and/or killing the heads
of the cartels and their henchmen. He needs to go big and not stop until Mexico has caught or killed every last one of the offenders. No
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Maybe we could lease them Guantanamo. Extraordinary rendition? Predator
drones?
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BajaGringo
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What an incredibly sad day for Mexico...
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ELINVESTIG8R
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
Maybe we could lease them Guantanamo. Extraordinary rendition? Predator drones? |
Monoloco, Mexico just needs to take one of their desolate islands and make a prison hellhole for all involved in this narco mess. Something like
"Devil's Island." As for Predator Drones... I'm all for the US giving it to Mexico. They must be armed with Hellfire Missles though.
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Want to destroy the Cartel's.... give them AIG and the rest in the financial community...
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This thing is scaring people. I talked to a person today who's family is cancelling a reunion in Mazatlan. 136 potential tourist lost.
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k-rico
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After an hour of reading about La Familia Michoacana I better understand the reasons behind the drug war and think the rise of this organization is
the spark that lit Calderon's fire.
Their blatant and brutal socio-political engineering in the state of Michoacan, where Calderon is from BTW, is truly dangerous to the republic. Much
more so than old fashioned narcos. And their specialty is methamphetamine, the cruelest of addictive drugs. They are smart enough to prohibit its use
by their members and within the communities they control.
Perhaps what I thought to be hyperbole about the possibilty of a "failed state" is real if their ideas spread to other states.
My position to stop the war and let the drugs flow is changing.
Grrrrrr
P.S. For the life of me I don't understand why the handful of chemical companies in the world that manufacture ephedra which is necessary for meth
production aren't shut down. Well I do understand, cold medicine is big business, but it comes with a heavy price. Stuffed up noses, how horrible.
[Edited on 12-23-2009 by k-rico]
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sanfelipebob
This thing is scaring people. I talked to a person today who's family is cancelling a reunion in Mazatlan. 136 potential tourist lost.
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Very Wise
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Mexicorn
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
After an hour of reading about La Familia Michoacana I better understand the reasons behind the drug war and think the rise of this organization is
the spark that lit Calderon's fire.
Their blatant and brutal socio-political engineering in the state of Michoacan, where Calderon is from BTW, is truly dangerous to the republic. Much
more so than old fashioned narcos. And their specialty is methamphetamine, the cruelest of addictive drugs. They are smart enough to prohibit its use
by their members and within the communities they control.
Perhaps what I thought to be hyperbole about the possibilty of a "failed state" is real if their ideas spread to other states.
My position to stop the war and let the drugs flow is changing.
Grrrrrr
P.S. For the life of me I don't understand why the handful of chemical companies in the world that manufacture ephedra which is necessary for meth
production aren't shut down. Well I do understand, cold medicine is big business, but it comes with a heavy price. Stuffed up noses, how horrible.
[Edited on 12-23-2009 by k-rico] |
If thats the case what do you expect us Americans to stuff up our collective noses, Slam in our veins and fill our lungs with?
Are you nuts. Drugs are Mexicos No. 1 GNP!
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexicorn
If thats the case what do you expect us Americans to stuff up our collective noses, Slam in our veins and fill our lungs with?
Are you nuts. Drugs are Mexicos No. 1 GNP! |
Please buy your drugs from dealers that sell drugs manufactured in the United States.
The northwest US grows the best pot. US meth is still available, and if opiates are your thing, there are some fine pharmaceuticals available on the
street.
BUY AMERICAN!!!! 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
Maybe we could lease them Guantanamo. Extraordinary rendition? Predator drones? |
Monoloco, Mexico just needs to take one of their desolate islands and make a prison hellhole for all involved in this narco mess. Something like
"Devil's Island." As for Predator Drones... I'm all for the US giving it to Mexico. They must be armed with Hellfire Missles though.
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It won't work because there will always be somebody else to fill the void. As long as 1% of the population
controls 90% of the wealth, the country will be rife with corruption and there will be no shortage of desperate people to do the dirty work of the
cartels. The only way out of this is to create an economy that provides opportunities for people to pull themselves out of poverty.
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Monoloco.. is that right... 1 %!!
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monoloco
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I don't know the exact number, but the point is that it's a very small percent.
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It won't work because the dominant cartel will use these concentration camps merely to punish members of the lesser cartels. The U.S. would have used
the same type of thing to deal with boozers during the '20s if that type of thing would work. It's funny that you never hear debate on how the U.S.
could have won the war on booze. We could have closed down the whole country and declared martial law. If we did, we would probably have a much more
repressive govt. now.
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Mexico doesn't have to build or maintain anything like a camp or gulag. All they have to do is deport the offenders to the US and their maintenance
becomes our responsibility.
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
I don't know the exact number, but the point is that it's a very small percent. |
Yes, but we're talking about Mex, not the US. Just kidding, sort of.
Plutocratic rule! Making a comeback to a country near you. Video at 6 o'clock.
OK, back to drugs, they're more fun.
[Edited on 12-23-2009 by k-rico]
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