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capt. mike
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most everybody i know of who have done a secret security device are doing simple hidden in line kill switches.
effective but illegal.
if found during an FAA ramp check it's a serious fine.
frankly - what i am seeing is guys just aren't willing to go if they fly desired cartel planes.
there's a guy asking now on BBP whether his C 185 is a target - hell yes it is. Many thiefs know how to fly an end swapper!!
and talk about use ful load plus STOL capability....can't beat a 180 or 185 for druggie duty.
i worry about my fuel being ripped if parked at an unguarded spot. my tanks hold about $450 worth of gas at US retail prices, and the caps do not
lock. Kids will siphon it to put in their jalopies! they won't steal my Piper but they'll muck it up and leave me stranded. my choices have been
severely limited now. at least until Mexico fixes this. 30 years of gleeful baja flying down the tube....damn!!
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Skeet/Loreto
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I appreciate all of your interest. So many years ago you could fly just about anywhere with out a flight Plan or nav.radio talk. Too Bad.
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Sharksbaja
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Funny thing is(actually not so funny), the authorities, whoever the hell THAST is, seem to be doing verrrrry little in the way of tracking down these
bums.
Has anyone been questioned by investigators? Are detectives actually doing due diligence in their quest to bring these guys down? I mean really, it
can be done. For instance, a real working powerful radar with perhaps a crew with a ready to go jet. They do have a jet in Mexico don't that? Wouldn't
they be able to intercept any plane at any time?
Aren't these planes flying across the SOC? Wouldn't a radar perched high see these flights???
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
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woody with a view
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i feel like "they" know where the planes are going. i don't think "they" care. remember the Peruvian air force downing that plane a few years back.
supposedly had americans on board or was a missionary plane (after the fact) on a mission from/to god....
interception would require effort, something officials have very little tolerance for!!!
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Skeet/Loreto
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Sharksbaja:
It just does not work the way you are talking about.
There is no organized interdiction at all in Mexico.
I can direct you to where most of these planes that have been stolen are located.
What do you do?? There is no Govt. Type organisation that does anything for recovery.
The insurance company will hire an Adjuster to verfiy Damage then pay the claim. Not enough money to get involved with !!No! at this point there is
notheing anybody can do.!!
Too Bad.
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ncampion
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
ncampion"
The regular person flying into Baja does not want to in any way shape or form try to engage the Thieves. |
Skeet, I would never recommend that a private person ever try to apprehend a criminal under any circumstances. I would expect that with the location
information, one could approach the appropriate authorities to make the arrest and recovery.
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Skeet/Loreto
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There is just no organized Investigation or for that matter Police work involved.
They do not share as we do in the States. So No! Please donot any one attemp to stop an Airplane theft, let it go.
I do think with the right device they can be prevented.
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capt. mike
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exactly - takes gov't infrastructure
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
i feel like "they" know where the planes are going. i don't think "they" care. remember the Peruvian air force downing that plane a few years back.
supposedly had americans on board or was a missionary plane (after the fact) on a mission from/to god....
interception would require effort, something officials have very little tolerance for!!! |
to go after and/or monitor this stuff - aircraft theft.
the Mexican feds can hardly handle their own biz without wanting to care about a handful of gringo tourist planes getting ripped by cartels which have
millions $$$$$.
why should they care? what's in it for them to actively work to prevent or solve these events? nothing and it cost $$ and resources to get involved.
strip registration, ditching and fed guards are as far as they care to go.
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Tano
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The device which is the most effective when considering cost and ease of installation is kill switch. One, which was actually in plain view, saved my
car in the early 80’s. Install one for the starter, better if it is a temporary-state one, which needs to be pressed with one hand while you turn on
the ignition with the other. Of course, the switch has to be somewhat hidden but handy. You can install another one for the ignition system itself,
but you need a good quality one. You don’t want it to fail when you’re in the air.
The installation of switches needs some ingenuity, also, so you minimize the number of wires connected to it. In some cases, just one wire will
suffice (one end grounded), but any wiring will have to come from the engine compartment, under rugs, etc., otherwise, wires may be handy enough for
any thief to fool with. After that “the sky is the limit” as far as how sophisticated you want to get.
If you’re in a hurry, just take the battery with you. Who carries a 24-volt battery around?
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capt. mike
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" If you’re in a hurry, just take the battery with you. Who carries a 24-volt battery around? "
well two 12's can start a 24 v system.
plus - you don'd need a battery to start or run a plane's engine.
you can jump one and as soon as it fires pull the batt or leads, or move the car.
Plane engines use magnetos for ignition, once the motor starts. you can lose all electrics while flying and while you might not have elec driven
accessories like radios and nav gear - the engine will continue to run until you pull the gas off (normal shut down) or turn off the mags. this is the
redundancy built in to make these engines safer.
i guess it makes them easy to steal too.....
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Tano
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The part about the battery was a facetious comment. I forgot to add also that you could simply hang a sign on the plane that says, “El motor no
arranca.”
The assumption here seems to be that potential thieves have all the time in the world to get the plane running. In that case, forget it. They can even
tow it away. Ingenuity implies having a pager system that will alert you when somebody is tampering with your plane, and you are able to shorten the
time anybody may have to get away with it. Otherwise...
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805gregg
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If you are going to take an expensive movable piece of gear to a third world country with ineffective police you are nuts and on your own. I was
driving behind 2 fed Polica cars when a large Ford truck pulling a big sport fishing boat passed going the other way. Both cop cars pulled a "u" and
followed. Bring expensive gear to Mex and you are creating a crime scenario.
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woody with a view
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ahh c'mon Gregg
the cops just wanted to go fishing, or rub the chrome rails or admire the hot mamacita in the passenger seat or.....
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Skeet/Loreto
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LOng Article in the Amarillo Globe News about some guys they caugh near Amarillo.
DEA put a Electronic Tracer in their Car, Got a Warrant several months befoe and followed it for the Bust. ..Looks like some body with some Risk
factors could do the same with any 210;s flying in to Baja. Course you would not have to get a Warrant, but it would sure be fun to trace the plane
after it gets snatched. If I was in DEA I would look into this right away,
And if they make me the right Deal I will go to Mexicao and steal it back. and return it to the States, All it takes is Money{Dimero}
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C-Urchin
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Has anyone seen the TV show called "Bait Car" ?
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