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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vgabndo
Thieves notwithstanding, what is wrong with the average Iranian that isn't comparably wrong with the average American? |
From what I hear, we bathe more often. That counts for a lot.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
Those little stores cost about $500,000 to buy and it would be the height of stupidity to p*ss it away on a penny-anti credit card swindle that can
easily be traced back to them. If it was from there, it was probably an employee. |
This store is a gold mine. Always busy.
From what I gathered, the employees were family.
I don't think she did it either.
Iraqi...Iranian....put 'em on Revolution Avenue and what are they called then?
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monoloco
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The only place we used that credit card on the way to Baja was to buy fuel. Every other station I used at was a large operation and I swiped the card
at the pump. This was not a matter of someone using the number on the card to purchase something online, the card was cloned. The reason I suspect the
Arco in Jamul is because I wasn't able to use the card reader at the pump and the women took the card out of my wife's sight into the back of the
store for several minutes. As far as I know you need the card to make a clone and this is the only location that the card has ever left our sight. The
ethnicity of the station owners makes no difference and I have no direct proof that they did this, I just posted it here because this is one of the
last places before the border and I thought maybe anyone stopping there might want be careful using a credit card.
[Edited on 12-29-2009 by monoloco]
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DENNIS
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I'd have posted the same thing. It's pretty easy to be all-understanding when someone else got burned.
Good luck on getting it straightened out.
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monoloco
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Thanks, Our bank Wells Fargo was right on the ball and they were only able to use it a couple of times. I highly recommend calling your bank and
reviewing your travel plans so they can alert you to any potential fraud. It certainly worked in this case.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
Chaldeans are Iraqi's, not Iranians. They are Arabs. I seriously doubt that the owner of the Arco did the credit card fraud. Those little stores cost
about $500,000 to buy and it would be the height of stupidity to p*ss it away on a penny-anti credit card swindle that can easily be traced back to
them. If it was from there, it was probably an employee. |
There are Chaldeans in Iraq, Iran, Syria, Turkey and elsewhere, and they do not consider themselves Arabs----but that is off topic---and just as a
side note, they are one of the groups affiliated with the Roman Catholic Church but their priests can marry.
Back to the original topic---it is really good information---cannot be too careful with the credit cards. I can do enough damage all by myself.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Chaldeans in san Diego are mostly of Iranian descent. Some of them are heavily involved in drug trafficking with Mexican cartels.
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That is very interesting. A number of them have very successful businesses around here----wonder how the connection started???
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Mexicorn
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aaaahhhh ummmmm...... very interesting.. Artie Shaw Laugh In 1968
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surfer jim
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.....these are the Days of Our Lives......like sand through the hourglass....Oh wait....this is BAJA NOMADS not the soap opera forum....
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arbee
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One other issue with that Arco station that keeps me away from there is that during the wildfires in 2007, they wouldn't even let some tired and
dehydrated firefighters take some bottled water and Gatorades. These firefighters had been working for over 48 hours straight and they weren't
carrying any money. They promised to come back and pay later, but that was refused. As they were leaving emptyhanded, the man behind them in line
paid for their drinks, and walked out the door. There were a lot of p****d off people in Jamul, after the word spread, and many of the locals
boycott that store still.
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Bajahowodd
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I'm not certain that physical possesion of the card is necessary to clone it. I reported about a similar type incident in 2008, where I was certain my
card was cloned after using it at a well-know restaurant in Ensenada. Yes, the card was taken out of my sight. However, the owner of the restaurant
later told me that they normally use a card reader right at the table, but theirs was broken the night I was there. Thing is that I later discovered
the receipt I was given printed out with my full credit card number and name. So, even if you are face to face with someone, if they have equipment
that will print out all the necessary details to make a clone, it pays to carefully look at your receipt prior to leaving.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arbee
One other issue with that Arco station that keeps me away from there is that during the wildfires in 2007, they wouldn't even let some tired and
dehydrated firefighters take some bottled water and Gatorades. These firefighters had been working for over 48 hours straight and they weren't
carrying any money. They promised to come back and pay later, but that was refused. As they were leaving emptyhanded, the man behind them in line
paid for their drinks, and walked out the door. There were a lot of p****d off people in Jamul, after the word spread, and many of the locals
boycott that store still. |
This is enough for me to blackball the place.
Tell your friends to tell their friends to tell........
BajaNomad Blackball. They have earned it.
The only way this will be effective will be to bring it up here from time to time.
We need a Black Ball forum and this will be our first victim.
How dare they turn their back on tired firefighters.
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Before we close this business down.................................
It's possible that it was an employee that said no to the firefighters not the owner. An employee doesn't have the right to give away or lend
merchandise. Owners can't be present 24/7.
Just a thought.
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
Before we close this business down.................................
It's possible that it was an employee that said no to the firefighters not the owner. An employee doesn't have the right to give away or lend
merchandise. Owners can't be present 24/7.
Just a thought. |
Have to agree. And still wonder why there have been so many hostile posts. It's a gas staion, for crissakes. Are you on empty?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
Before we close this business down.................................
It's possible that it was an employee that said no to the firefighters not the owner. An employee doesn't have the right to give away or lend
merchandise. Owners can't be present 24/7.
Just a thought. |
Not here. Like I mentioned before, It's a family run business [extended or otherwise ] and the person in charge would be imposing rules set by the
Mama. It was just a mean, cheap, decision to not accomodate a haggard firefighter at that time.
The reason is this.....These folks, the Chaldeans or whoever they are, bought into the community...recently. They arn't part of it by birth or
family. They are merchants. Merchants without ties that give them a feeling or obligation to community. They won't give their money, in this case,
to anybody.
Too bad...............Don't shop there. That's all one can do to object to their selfishness.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by surfer jim
.....these are the Days of Our Lives......like sand through the hourglass....Oh wait....this is BAJA NOMADS not the soap opera forum.... |
You think there is a difference 
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surfer jim
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many times....hard to tell....
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I'm not certain that physical possesion of the card is necessary to clone it. I reported about a similar type incident in 2008, where I was certain my
card was cloned after using it at a well-know restaurant in Ensenada. Yes, the card was taken out of my sight. However, the owner of the restaurant
later told me that they normally use a card reader right at the table, but theirs was broken the night I was there. Thing is that I later discovered
the receipt I was given printed out with my full credit card number and name. So, even if you are face to face with someone, if they have equipment
that will print out all the necessary details to make a clone, it pays to carefully look at your receipt prior to leaving. |
From what I understand you need more than the numbers from a credit card to clone it. You need to run the card through some sort of
device that can copy the magnetic strip. I always look at the receipt because I have found some business print the card # on their copy of the
receipt. When this has happened I black out the numbers and give the manager a little lecture about the irresponsibility of this practice.
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mulegejim
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One question - was the card in question a credit card or a debit card? There are major differences in the way they work as far as owner liability
goes.
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The Gull
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It makes no difference in Ensenado.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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