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Mexicorn
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
Well, anyway, to make a long story short, Mexicorn's best friend, Nancy Conroy, published the news of the land dispute in the Gringo Gazette. Hugo
went crazy because he had not and did not want to disclose the cloud on title to the gringos buying his condos. So Hugo started a criminal action
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Is that right suthsayer Areohead, So what your saying is this isn't your first rodeo?
 Nancy!!
Oh what happened to her Crack report Lois Lane? I mean Vivian Dunbar AKA Vivian Stratton?
[Edited on 1-3-2010 by Mexicorn]
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Bajahowodd
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Truth is that even with a bucket full of good intentions, it is ill-advised, as a foreigner, to crusade against the status quo in Mexico. Nancy was
not the first, nor sadly, will not be the last to be "put in their place" by the local powers(politicians/ businessmen/police).
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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Truth is that even with a bucket full of good intentions, it is ill-advised, as a foreigner, to crusade against the status quo in Mexico. Nancy was
not the first, nor sadly, will not be the last to be "put in their place" by the local powers(politicians/ businessmen/police).
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surebought
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It could be much much worse. I know of people who have paid six figures and nothing ever got built. I really hate the Real Estate Business here.
Remember, a hundred things can go wrong with a Real Estate deal in Mexico. Your right, escrows fundamentally can't really be the same here as they
are in the States. So many times when it's time to sell, the challenge is to get the next guy to accept the same deal as you did.
In a while the smile on my face turned to plaster.
Stick around while the clown who is sick, does the trick of disaster. Neil Young from Mr Soul.
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The Gull
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Stupid, arrogant American - not the only one posting on this board
| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
I hear that guy Tommy Goodman is the Secretary of the La Jolla de Rosarito HOA. Maybe you should pass this on to him so he can publish it on the HOA's
website that he maintains. I'm sure he would not shirk his fiduciary responsibility by failing to notify the homeowners that their condos are not free
and clear even after they paid off the developer in full. |
The wise thoughts of an ignorant, arrogant American are displayed above. Here's how:
1) Tries to apply US Corporation standards of "fiduciary responsibility" of the secretary of an unincorporated entity.
2) Doesn't understand that the rules governing Fideocomiso groups (HOA) have little in common under law with the California standards for HOA.
3) Fails to acknowledge that the obligations under law for this type of group falls to the Condominio Administrator who should be a Mexican National.
4) Expresses the normal American stupidity and arrogance regarding the responsibility and authority of the members of the Vigilence Committee.
All in all Nancy, is it any wonder why when you came to Baja to "straighten everyone out" you were given the bum's rush and sent packing. You and
other Americans will never learn to keep your noses out of the business of the Mexican society. They are a sovereign nation and will conduct their
affairs without your stupid, arrogant nose stuck where it doesn't belong. They don't answer to American standards, never will.
It looks like it is too late for you to learn anything, so you will have the hard road of unsuccess ahead of you. Your "I am an American and I know
it all, I even know what is good for other people" attitude doesn't work here or most anywhere.
Why don't you take your fervor to campaign into the US where you can be "Queen for a Day" doing your best to stop illegal immigration and illegal drug
use? Until then, don't get surprised when you get taken out, this time, maybe permanently.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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Mexicorn
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
I hear that guy Tommy Goodman is the Secretary of the La Jolla de Rosarito HOA. Maybe you should pass this on to him so he can publish it on the HOA's
website that he maintains. I'm sure he would not shirk his fiduciary responsibility by failing to notify the homeowners that their condos are not free
and clear even after they paid off the developer in full. |
The wise thoughts of an ignorant, arrogant American are displayed above. Here's how:
1) Tries to apply US Corporation standards of "fiduciary responsibility" of the secretary of an unincorporated entity.
2) Doesn't understand that the rules governing Fideocomiso groups (HOA) have little in common under law with the California standards for HOA.
3) Fails to acknowledge that the obligations under law for this type of group falls to the Condominio Administrator who should be a Mexican National.
4) Expresses the normal American stupidity and arrogance regarding the responsibility and authority of the members of the Vigilence Committee.
All in all Nancy, is it any wonder why when you came to Baja to "straighten everyone out" you were given the bum's rush and sent packing. You and
other Americans will never learn to keep your noses out of the business of the Mexican society. They are a sovereign nation and will conduct their
affairs without your stupid, arrogant nose stuck where it doesn't belong. They don't answer to American standards, never will.
It looks like it is too late for you to learn anything, so you will have the hard road of unsuccess ahead of you. Your "I am an American and I know
it all, I even know what is good for other people" attitude doesn't work here or most anywhere.
Why don't you take your fervor to campaign into the US where you can be "Queen for a Day" doing your best to stop illegal immigration and illegal drug
use? Until then, don't get surprised when you get taken out, this time, maybe permanently. |
Nancy I understand that the SDMM may be looking for a new leader. You interested?
With all the USC law skills you might want to take on the whole Mexicans taking good american jobs thing.
When are you comming up for sentencing anyway? You will fit right in with the ladies at the State prison in Ensenada with that butch little haircut
you love to sport. Let us know so we can take up a collection to put some money on your books. PS I hear the shrimp or camaron top ramen is the best.
hee hee
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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
The wise thoughts of an ignorant, arrogant American are displayed above. Here's how:
1) Tries to apply US Corporation standards of "fiduciary responsibility" of the secretary of an unincorporated entity.
2) Doesn't understand that the rules...yada, yada, yada |
Gully, you are without a doubt the most dangerous person who posts here. You have absolutely no knowledge about what you speak, but act like you are
the leading authority in the area. I sure hope none of the Nomads here actually believe anything you say. Let us run through a little example of just
how little you know.
Say a person, let's call him "Tom" for example, operates an internet web site for the benefit of owners of a property in Mexico. Let's say this
website is located on a server in Burlington, MA. "Tom" was elected to his position by a vote of the property owners, including a vote from property
owner "A". Let's say "Tom" is a citizen of the US, but resides in Mexico. This website, which Tom created and maintains, advises property owner "A",
who happens to be a US citizen and resides in California, that "A" needs to send in his HOA dues.
Now, "Tom" is aware that there is a material deficiency with the property, but fails to tell "A". Had "A" known of this material deficiency, being a
reasonable person, "A" probably would not have sent in the HOA dues until the deficiency was corrected. Years later, "A" goes to sell his property and
only then finds out that he does not have marketable title because the developer never paid-off the underlying property liens.
"A" decides to sue "Tom" for fraud and breach of fiduciary responsibility. What court is he entitled to sue in?
Let me answer this for you, since I already know you have absolutely no clue. 28 U.S.C. § 1332. "A" can sue "Tom" in Federal District Court in
California, which would be the 9th District. Federal law allows a citizen of one state to sue a citizen of another state, or of a foreign county, in
Federal District Court. The answer would be the same if "Tom" were a citizen of Mexico. "A" may also name the HOA in the lawsuit as an additional
defendant, but as it only has a few dollars in assets, wouldn't expect too much from it. When "Tom" gets served with the lawsuit, he will probably go
to the president of the HOA and ask if the HOA's insurance policy, written by a Mexican insurance company, no doubt, has "Errors and Omissions"
insurance to cover him.
After the guys at the Mexican insurance company stop laughing at that question, I'm sure they will wish "Tom" a hearty "buena suerte" with his
lawsuit. So you see, professor Gull, "A" doesn't have to worry about what Mexican law says, or where the HOA is, or where the property is, or any of
the other things you mentioned. This is because he is in US District Court where US law is the law of the land.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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Mexicorn
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Nancy your attempts at one upmanship against the gull are a joke.
Stick to your little blog where no one gets to say anything that you dont approve of and go away.
Before I sick Sir Lawrence Trimble esq. on you.
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Woooosh
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Aren't the Trump investors taking the Mexcan developer who ran with the $26 Million USD to court in LA? Same type thing?
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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The Gull
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Nancy and the law
Arrowhead, AKA Nancy, you sound so right when you are wrong.
Thank you for responding to my note to you. It further demonstrates your typical ugly American arrogance and ignorance of Mexican law or any law.
Damages described in your fantasy case, if any, are in Mexico. The 9th will throw out your "A" case in a second. As they say, "bring it on". Your
linkage with a server in the US is truly a retarded case of bad lawyering, by someone who could not make the grade and pass the Bar. Good thing there
are standards in the area of law in the US to keep retards like you from conducting anything which would end up getting unsuspecting people in real
trouble.
There is no Officers and Directors insurance in Mexico, for a Volunteer Vigilance Committee of a group of homeowners. Why because they are not a
corporation or a governing board, no matter how you want to bend and stretch CA HOA law. Once again, a retarded argument made by you actually sounds
believeable - but it is of your making and not real.
Try another career - creative writing might be better for you. Children's fantasy books might be closer to your skills as you can tell stories and
they will want to believe in dragons and fairies, and such.
Add obsession to your characteristics of arrogance, ignorance and bigotry.
I offered to buy you lunch - why no acceptance, sweetie?
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Aren't the Trump investors taking the Mexcan developer who ran with the $26 Million USD to court in LA? Same type thing? |
Trump and others promoted their sales on the US side. They make representations in the US and conducted sales operations & solicitations on the
US side. By doing so, they picked up some exposure to US law, but it will be tossed out of court after the plaintiff lawyers bleed the stupid people
who bought $400K condos next to a dumpsite - they have already demonstrated being dummies, so the lawyers are in a feeding frenzy.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Aren't the Trump investors taking the Mexcan developer who ran with the $26 Million USD to court in LA? Same type thing? |
Funny how law works.... sometimes a good thing to "know".. might just get a default judgement.. but, never can tell... you may get "lucky"..
Might depend on if the Judge ever lost money in a "Mexico Real Estate Transaction" 
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Aren't the Trump investors taking the Mexcan developer who ran with the $26 Million USD to court in LA? Same type thing? |
Funny how law works.... sometimes a good thing to "know".. might just get a default judgement.. but, never can tell... you may get "lucky"..
Might depend on if the Judge ever lost money in a "Mexico Real Estate Transaction" |
Of course the impossible part, even if they are lucky enough to prevail, is collecting on the judgement.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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k-rico
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It could be much much worse. I know of people who have paid six figures and nothing ever got built. |
Do you mean folks forked over $100,000 or more based upon a concept drawing and a signature on a piece of paper, or something like that?
Who is REALLY at fault in such cases?
[Edited on 1-4-2010 by k-rico]
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Do you mean folks forked over $100,000 or more based upon a concept drawing and a signature on a piece of paper, or something like that?
Who is REALLY at fault in such cases? |
Those people's parents - for breeding and not teaching them better.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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:light on't spend more in Mexico, than what you can afford to walk away from. 
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Do you mean folks forked over $100,000 or more based upon a concept drawing and a signature on a piece of paper, or something like that?
Who is REALLY at fault in such cases? |
Those people's parents - for breeding and not teaching them better. |
More money than brains?
The problem in many cases is likely the lack of a requirement for "completion bonds". Without a completion bond to guarantee funding is in place and
that construction will be completed, it is just a real estate pyramid scheme. If you get in early- you may get a finished unit. Even then you may
have empty unfinished floors above and below you for many years. If you get in late- your 30% down built the earlier buyers unit and you are out of
luck.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
The problem in many cases is likely the lack of a requirement for "completion bonds". |
It probably happens less these days than in the past but, folks would come down here, fall in love with the place and put complete trust in a landlord
or contractor, thinking with their US mindset that their handshake will be protected by law.
"Oh, he won't screw me...he's my amigo. I bring clothes for his grandkids"
Gawd...How many times did I hear that. I knew an old fool here last year who was absent living in the states while he just kept paying a contractor
to build a garage. 112 thousand bucks later, he had a leaky garage. What a freakin dope.
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The venom contained in this thread is astonishing.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajajazz
The venom contained in this thread is astonishing. |
too many topics touched upon in this thread to know which one though...
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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