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[*] posted on 1-15-2010 at 02:08 PM


Either June/July or August this year.
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[*] posted on 1-15-2010 at 02:52 PM
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i used to talk to Keith and Holly frequently when they ran bajaportal.com

they published a travel story i wrote about the Flying Sams.

they are good people with a fine reputation as San Diego contractors and i look forward to seeing their development at Abreojos soon.
ps to Roger - sweet duck action!

i miss my Kansas waterfowl hunting days at Quivera and Cheyenne bottoms game preserves.
can't beat a day in the blind with some whisky, wine and cups of hot joe.

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[*] posted on 1-15-2010 at 03:40 PM


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"Most of these fish were caught with the help of the local fishing cooperative. The fish was then used by the local Abreojos cooperative to benefit the members"

This is total BS.

2 thumbs down Mr. Keith Berkley!!!

A San Diego angler should know better.


100% in agreement with skipjack joe. Super lame move to harvest those fish.
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[*] posted on 1-15-2010 at 04:25 PM


They seem nice enough. Web site has been up for years with no activity so don't hold your breath. and they don't own any land that I am awarre of. They have only been down once (that I know of) in the last three years.


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i used to talk to Keith and Holly frequently when they ran bajaportal.com

they published a travel story i wrote about the Flying Sams.

they are good people with a fine reputation as San Diego contractors and i look forward to seeing their development at Abreojos soon.
ps to Roger - sweet duck action!

i miss my Kansas waterfowl hunting days at Quivera and Cheyenne bottoms game preserves.
can't beat a day in the blind with some whisky, wine and cups of hot joe.

[Edited on 1-15-2010 by capt. mike]
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[*] posted on 1-16-2010 at 11:12 AM


guess it isn't going on for them then.

were those fish illegal? - over limit/size? species? or just that its not considered good conservation to take them? would the local fishermen take them? are they for people eating or pet food processing?
just trying to understand the points of discussion.




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[*] posted on 1-16-2010 at 10:35 PM


I don't know if they were taken legally. They are of legal size. Yes the coop will process them. The coop does not generally fish for them. And it does not make it right to take them like that. I believe it was for sport.

For those that haven't caught a black sea bass. I don't think it is any fun at all. Its like bringing a bag of cement up off the bottom. no fun at all.





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guess it isn't going on for them then.

were those fish illegal? - over limit/size? species? or just that its not considered good conservation to take them? would the local fishermen take them? are they for people eating or pet food processing?
just trying to understand the points of discussion.
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[*] posted on 1-16-2010 at 10:35 PM


Basically you have a southern californian promoting abreojos with images of 80 year old dead fish that normally don't reach sexual maturity until a weight of 60 lbs. A recipe for disaster.

It's like promoting San Felipe with pictures of totuava being loaded into trucks back in the 50's.

How did that story end?
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[*] posted on 1-17-2010 at 09:52 AM


thank you. i understand this discussion much better.
in 1991 i was scuba diving off Grand Cayman and at one of the marked commercial group dive sites lived a tame Goliath grouper AKA Jew fish.
i have it on video - it was amazing and let us all swim right up to it. had to be 6' long or better, weighed several hundred pounds. Catching it would be pointless i think.
i saw similar video of divers petting giant cod at reefs off Australia.

as much as a like eating yellow tail, i didn't get much thrill bringing those up off Santa Ynez isla, 40 lb class - like fighting a 4X12 sheet of EXT CDX plywood.

i think dorado is the most sport fun. i'll stick with those.




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[*] posted on 1-17-2010 at 10:59 AM


yeah, I think fighting a trout on 2 pound test is more fun than a 40 lb yellow on the yoyo..I mean, who wants to pull that hard.



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[*] posted on 1-17-2010 at 11:22 AM


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Seeing a BSB in California is high on my bucket list. Where are you seeing them? I know there are a few spots at Catalina (Italian Gardens is one) where they are reliably seen, but it seems like sightings at the other islands are pretty spotty. ++Ken++




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[*] posted on 1-17-2010 at 02:43 PM


Ken, still chasing that Mero huh? Seems like years ago we exchanged about seeing/photographing one.. Seems like when we work Anacapa, SBI, and Nick...mostly where we see them.

We are ussually creating a ruckus before the diving starts trying to catch fish. Maybe we are bringing them in? Dunno..only see big ones 80lbs plus..Good Luck..would love to see one in your photo quality/style..
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[*] posted on 1-17-2010 at 04:52 PM


Thanks Tomas. I will keep trying at Anacapa. I might have to bite the bullet and book a Catalina trip one of these days :) ++Ken++



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[*] posted on 1-17-2010 at 06:00 PM


HERE'S A HUGE BLACK SEA BASS

This GRANDE bass was caught by Chino fishing out of Cielito Lindo.

David K and I saw this fish in 2001 when we stopped for the night on our way back north. Truely a BIG fish!!!

The pig in the forground is 'Porky Pig' - Dave and Juanita's pet.

Amo Pescar :yes: :yes: :yes:




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[*] posted on 1-18-2010 at 11:56 PM


DAVID K. ...DO YOU REMEMBER THE BIG BLACK SEA BASS AT CIELITO LINDO?

I posted a picture of it above.

Miguelamo ;D :D :)
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[*] posted on 1-20-2010 at 08:46 AM


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Thanks Tomas. I will keep trying at Anacapa. I might have to bite the bullet and book a Catalina trip one of these days :) ++Ken++


If you do, shoot me an email before hand. I'll give you any info I have.

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[*] posted on 1-20-2010 at 09:16 AM


Some of the most fun I have fishing is grinning while fighting a grayling..the sailfish of the north..on a fly or spinning with 2lb test. Winching up grouper or yellowtail can be fun, but just can't compare.

A huge grayling will run 4 lbs. :rolleyes:

Here's some monster grayling: ( That I wish I had caught!)




Let those big female egg-laying grouper live! You'll feel good about it.




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[*] posted on 1-20-2010 at 09:54 AM


Now THAT is a grayling.
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