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[*] posted on 2-25-2010 at 11:13 AM


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Cameras make me nervous. Mexico has turned lousy response time into an art form so what real good are they? Apprehension and prosecution? What a joke.
I'm glad the boxes and their false security are gone.


Wow. Great pic. Thanks. So I guess the system was operational at some point.

Dennis- I'm not sure it was false security on that stretch of road. The Via Rapida used to be a real problem until the cameras went up, now it is dangerous again with them gone (for my family at least). The Police and Military were catching each other taking bribes with them- which is probably the real reason they went away. I just can't remember when I first noticed they were no longer there...

I can only recall three specific times in six years when my cameras have either stopped someone from being falsely accused or have helped a neighbor recover their property. (We have had the police ask for our help after a shooting- but we told them with a wink the cameras were scanning the other direction at the time. They gladly accepted that response.

EDIT: Want to thanks Dennis for also pointing out the solar- powered emergency phones along the toll road from Playas to Rosarito are now apparently gone too...

[Edited on 2-25-2010 by Woooosh]




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[*] posted on 2-25-2010 at 02:28 PM


My thanks to a parallel blogger for finding this link to the history of these missing cameras.

This only deepens the mystery though- looks like politics and tourist safety clashed and politics won. Bet they would have kept the system up if they knew the USA would issue these warnings all the time, because at least it showed serious efforts on Mexico's part (at the time anyway).

http://legacy.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/2007071...

"One command center operator said it has assisted in 12,800 detentions from April 2006 to April 2007." That's not a small number- no matter what you think of cameras...

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[*] posted on 3-27-2010 at 09:09 PM


Hooray! It looks like 1000 cameras and two monitoring stations could be going back in! In 2006 the cameras were credited with 12,800 actual detentions, about 35 a day. This, along with the temporary 2am bar closings- will help make people feel and really be more secure. Better for everyone but the bad guys and the corrupt.

http://afntijuana.info/blog/?p=30611#more-30611

"The public needs to regain more confidence in the municipal authority, and to have the feeling they are protected at home, business, and on public roads. We will work hard to make this a reality," he said, referring to his proposal against the insecurity. To achieve these he is encouraging the installation of a thousand video surveillance cameras, besides the construction of two new command centers in two different areas of the city."

Ok, it's not quite there yet-- but it least it's on their radar now. I'm good.

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[*] posted on 3-27-2010 at 11:46 PM


The cameras where installed during Jorge Hank Rhon's administration, wich was corrupt to the core to say the least. The contract was done in secret to a company nobody knew. After Hank was gone, the whole project was deemed to be a complete failure, because somehow, the criminals had access to the cameras and could plan their hits using the cameras to see where cops where. After realizing that the whole proyect was in fact set up and used to aid criminals, not the city, it was shut down.

Better to not have cameras, than to have them used as cartel eyes in the city.




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[*] posted on 3-28-2010 at 07:55 AM


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"One command center operator said it has assisted in 12,800 detentions from April 2006 to April 2007." That's not a small number- no matter what you think of cameras...



That's 35 per day......on the toll road......where city cops don't patrol.
If you believe that, well........
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[*] posted on 3-28-2010 at 09:01 AM


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"One command center operator said it has assisted in 12,800 detentions from April 2006 to April 2007." That's not a small number- no matter what you think of cameras...



That's 35 per day......on the toll road......where city cops don't patrol.
If you believe that, well........

We don't know if any detentions were on the toll road or Via Rapida to it. Most of the cameras were in the downtown Ave. Revolucion tourist zone.




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[*] posted on 3-28-2010 at 09:43 AM


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We don't know if any detentions were on the toll road or Via Rapida to it. Most of the cameras were in the downtown Ave. Revolucion tourist zone.



Sorry....I wasn't aware of those.
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