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Laugh all you want...
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Speaking of Jews Dave, I've been meaning to ask you a question.
Does your mind short circuit when you see bacon on sale for 1/2 price?
just kidding, it's a joke, don't get mad.  |
But if that were me who was robbed they would have gotten a check.
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Scary is right, armed robbery by a group of rateros, too bad they didn't tell the police about it.
 we all know that only the police have guns in MX so the robbers must have
been the police
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With five masked men with their hands up the lady's skirt and abusing her while they poked a gun in the husbands face- I'd have thrown them the money
and left town fast too.
 More proof: Only the police wear masks in MX and they would never abuse the
man either
[Edited on 3-12-2010 by durrelllrobert] |
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Wooooooooooooooooosh,
You said he wasn't flashing a Rolex, how do you know? And of course you believe his theory that the hotel employee set him up.
Maybe they just left a bar where he opened his wallet and the bad guys saw inside. Maybe he was drunk and flashing the wad. Maybe he just walked away
from an ATM machine and was followed.
Was he in a lighted area with others around or was he prowling around a back street?
Afterall he was dumb enough to have a $1000 dollars in his wallet and leave his belongings behind when he left town.
The fact is you don't know.
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Tell you what. Take a walk around that hotel at night and see what happens. Since these tourists did not report it- the crooks are still out there.
Mexico won't look into it.
IMO, it isn't the robbery that will give this story legs. It is the van, masked men, mild pistol whipping and sexual assault. She won't ever be able
to take enough baths to cleanse herself from this. A man being forced to watch this happen to his wife is something every male dreads- it's totally
emasculating.
So the best to to not be victimized in Mexico is simply not to go there. This couple was young and he didn't look like a pushover. This was actually
the best possible ending for that situation- throw the money and run. I'm sure the Charlotte news bureau had nothing else to report. If they had
lived or landed in LAX, it probably would not have been covered at all.
I have family in NC and the people there are overwhelmed by the huge Mexican migration. That made it easy to pile on- but doesn't change what
happened.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Scary is right, armed robbery by a group of rateros, too bad they didn't tell the police about it.
we all know that only the police have guns in MX so the robbers must have
been the police
[Edited on 3-12-2010 by k-rico] |
With five masked men with their hands up the lady's skirt and abusing her while they poked a gun in the husbands face- I'd have thrown them the money
and left town fast too.
More proof: Only the police wear masks in MX and they would never abuse the
man either
[Edited on 3-12-2010 by durrelllrobert] |
woooosh adds: please don't edit my posts quotes. My "quotes" are my quotes... just type under it. I don't care how you respond to a post- but
leave my original message alone please, even if you're being supportive. I get in enough trouble on my own thanks.
[Edited on 3-12-2010 by Woooosh] |
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Boy, some people here are going to have us believing this whole incident was entirely the fault of the American couple and those 5 poor disadvantaged
Mexicans were "compelled" to rob them and grope the woman. It is all America's fault.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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We will never know all of the facts, however doing nothing is never an option.
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These folks are typical naive midwestern american tourists and their degredation and robbery will cost not only Cabo, but mexico dearly.
If those guys were wearing masks then there is a premeditation involved. The fact that this was not reported, and they were successful, forshadows
more to come.
I hope we read at some point about these guys being arrested, tried and jailed. Even with that it will take a long time to renew the faith in their
security for people who have watched this video. Sad incident for these poor people and for Mexico. Makes me sad.
It seems now that everyone I talk with here in the USofA about my love of Mexico and travel there that they ALWAYS say in wonder "You feel safe
there!?"
The thousand dollars these folks lost is a drop in the bucket of tourist dollars that are not being spent in Mexico. There are indeed other places for
people to go and prices are lower than ever to do so.
Iflyfish
edited for trypo
[Edited on 3-12-2010 by Iflyfish]
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DENNIS
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It's unbelievable how many people are still insisting that the "Ideal Mexico" still exists, if ever it did. There's more crime on the streets today
than ever before and it always existed to a degree.
It's interesting that those, for the most part, who don't live here and occasionally visit are the most vocal in defense of the Idyllic State.
Well, it isn't here. It's mainly in their Corona addled mind.
Safe haven for some, I'm sure.
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Dave
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Gnukid...
For the sake of convenience, why don't you just open a bank?
Withdrawals only.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
I saw in El Mex the TJ tourist zone merchants are banding together and are considering hiring their own private security to protect tourists. This
may be the new security trend since no one, including merchants and tourists, trust the police to protect them.
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That is what they did in Tela, Honduras when we were living in Honduras. The beaches and streets in Tela were extremely unsafe, especially at night,
and the police worse than worthless. One Peace Corp member we knew who had next to no money was robbed in broad daylight on the main
street---happened all the time.
So, the merchants, hotel owners, etc. hired private thugs to police the beaches so at least they were safe for the tourists. It was, however,
difficult to tell the good thugs from the bad thugs.
Also, we would hire one of the street boys to watch our vehicle when we were there---a little insurance. The street children really were heart
breakers, but that is a different story.
In regards to this story, it still always amazes me when so many want to blame the victim. Yes, caution should be used traveling ANYWHERE, but IMHO,
I cannot blame the victim for the crime of others.
[Edited on 3-12-2010 by DianaT]
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DID SOMEONE SAY BACON?
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Man- this thread is taking a twist I didn't expect... bacon? |
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
I saw in El Mex the TJ tourist zone merchants are banding together and are considering hiring their own private security to protect tourists. This
may be the new security trend since no one, including merchants and tourists, trust the police to protect them.
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That is what they did in Tela, Honduras when we were living in Honduras. The beaches and streets in Tela were extremely unsafe, especially at night,
and the police worse than worthless. One Peace Corp member we knew who had next to no money was robbed in broad daylight on the main
street---happened all the time.
So, the merchants, hotel owners, etc. hired private thugs to police the beaches so at least they were safe for the tourists. It was, however,
difficult to tell the good thugs from the bad thugs.
Also, we would hire one of the street boys to watch our vehicle when we were there---a little insurance. The street children really were heart
breakers, but that is a different story.
In regards to this story, it still always amazes me when so many want to blame the victim. Yes, caution should be used traveling ANYWHERE, but IMHO,
I cannot blame the victim for the crime of others.
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I had not thought of "re-training" the narcos from moving drugs to being private security. Interesting. I'm sure they will miss their weapons and
tactics otherwise and this would keep their "culture" intact. They could even take care crooked cops and heads would roll. Hmmm....
[Edited on 3-12-2010 by Woooosh]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
It's unbelievable how many people are still insisting that the "Ideal Mexico" still exists. |
Who said that?
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It's mainly in their Corona addled mind. |
It is gnarly stuff, especially if a bit warm. YUK!
[Edited on 3-12-2010 by k-rico]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
It's unbelievable how many people are still insisting that the "Ideal Mexico" still exists. |
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Fulano. That guy sure gets around.
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arrowhead
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gnukid, tell everybody how many of these many robbery incidents in BCS you have described were reported to the police...and why.
I'm just saying that because some people here think the story is bogus because the victims did not report the robbery to the police.
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arrowhead
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The way the "bacon" joke goes is like this:
"What is the biggest dilemma a Jew will every face?"
"Free bacon."
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That Gnukid post was serious? We have a parade of Auxiliary Police who knock on our door for "co-operation" money. 50 pesos a pop and we get a
receipt. Seems easier that way.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
The way the "bacon" joke goes is like this:
"What is the biggest dilemma a Jew will every face?"
"Free bacon." |
Try that with Turkey Bacon and see what happens. You'll likely be trampled by the stampede. 
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Dave
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Jewish mother's dilemma
Gay son...Dating doctor.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
It's unbelievable how many people are still insisting that the "Ideal Mexico" still exists. |
Who said that?
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Fulano. That guy sure gets around.
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Nancy,
I thought that you were Fulano.
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