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[*] posted on 3-28-2010 at 11:39 AM


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Keep in mind that after the new paved road is done, it will be subject to deterioration and it will be pot-holed and start breaking apart in a few years. It won't be on the list of roads to be maintained on any priority basis after weather events such as floods washing out parts of the road, roack slides, etc. So there's hope!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I wonder about this one. I do remember what happened to the pavement south of San Felipe many years ago---a real mess. And they have not completed the paving of the road from Vizcaino to Tortugas and some of it is really a mess---not just pot holes, but torn up badly and side dirt roads are being created.

When they complete this out to Highway 1, it could become a well used commercial road and that might mean more maintenance. Maybe, or maybe not. Does not take long for the "new" roads to fall apart.




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[*] posted on 3-28-2010 at 03:59 PM


The quality of the newer paved road jobs in Baja seem greatly improved over the past! Much wider roads and better paving machinery used... hopefully over better road beds... Nothing worse than a pot holed paved road... much better to leave it dirt.

The difference can be seen between the road north of Puertecitos (old style), and the road south of Puertecitos (new style).




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[*] posted on 3-28-2010 at 04:15 PM


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The quality of the newer paved road jobs in Baja seem greatly improved over the past! Much wider roads and better paving machinery used... hopefully over better road beds... Nothing worse than a pot holed paved road... much better to leave it dirt.

The difference can be seen between the road north of Puertecitos (old style), and the road south of Puertecitos (new style).


That may be true in the area of Baja you frequent, but it seems to be different elsewhere. For instance, parts of the Tortugas road that are older are in better shape than the newer parts. The quality over the salt flats varies from one to the other---some, ok, some pot holed and some disappearing and age seems to not be the deciding factor.

As some of our local friends are complaining about the condition of that road, they tell us that it all depends on who has the contract and how much they can get away with doing to save money for their own pockets. They hate it and just want a decent paved road.

We have observed the same thing on the road out to Abreojos---some older parts are better than newer parts. So it does seem to vary.

Well, since they decided to pave the Gonzaga road and are continuing forward, I do hope they maintain it for the benefit of increased commerce.

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[*] posted on 3-28-2010 at 04:20 PM


When they finish paving the road there'll be one more adventure to scratch off the Baja list.:(
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[*] posted on 3-28-2010 at 04:56 PM


Yah, the new style I have seen Diane is the few sections of Hwy. 1 north and south of El Rosario and at Bahia Concepcion... and then the new road north of San Felipe and the new road south of Puertecitos.

The road west from Vizcaino is OLD style construction, using far too little asphalt or applied on sub-standard road base (soft spots below pavement that break away making pot holes).

Seems that some road work in Baja is a way to get votes ... like their promisses, the road is too thin!




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[*] posted on 3-28-2010 at 05:01 PM


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When they finish paving the road there'll be one more adventure to scratch off the Baja list.:(


Mision Santa Maria should still be prime for an adventure!

Gonzaga kind of lost it when they built the new road in the 1980's... then the Pemex station in 1998, and the hotel at Alfonsina's, and the Rancho Grande mini mart/ liquor store!

I do know that more development will come with the pavement, and that does change things. Of course the economy needs to be prosperous (like before 2008) for any positive activity for the locals... There just aren't very many locals in Gonzaga Bay... They will be coming with growth, however!




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[*] posted on 3-29-2010 at 04:32 PM


Before we get to nostalgic for the bad road...
I would venture a guess that a new road to Gonzaga bay will bring a slightly larger audience to appreciate the area, but not the flood of disneyland tourist that we fear. It is still a pretty remote area with limited convenieces.
Bigger towns up north can't give away hotel rooms right now and the harsh baja sun will likely keep the road an a warning list for the AAA for quite some time.

Who knows maybe the pavement will bring someone to fall in love with the area and Ill get to have a cold beer with someone cool. :cool:




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ha!! but you're flyin' Cap!



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[*] posted on 3-30-2010 at 09:08 AM


Yeah, even the bad sections dont look that bad from the air :biggrin:



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[*] posted on 3-30-2010 at 09:10 AM


depending on your schedule try and meet up with us april for the NORRA party.
if no rooms at BOLA we'll hop to PSFO for a night.




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[*] posted on 3-30-2010 at 10:28 AM


you mean underwear city at PSF...:o



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[*] posted on 3-30-2010 at 10:34 AM


yeah....that's what i like about layers.



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[*] posted on 3-30-2010 at 10:53 AM


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Who knows maybe the pavement will bring someone to fall in love with the area and Ill get to have a cold beer with someone cool. :cool:


Perhaps.... but you don't need pavement to have a beer with someone cool, amigo.
I'll buy ya a beer at Alfonsina's any time you want.

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