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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chnlisle
Writing to the businesses complaining about the mordida won't do jack for you. They are as helpless as the rest. |
Kind of makes you want to say, Screw Baja, doesn't it. This place is going to the starving dogs.
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BajaBruno
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Dear woody with a view (I love that moniker on so many levels, BTW), I agree that in a macroeconomic view the world is short-sighted, but third world
countries have the disadvantage of poor education and few good job opportunities, which makes them, as you know well, particularly myopic.
We have all driven through a village with a tope (I call them Enterprise Zones) where some resourceful citizen has opened a stand selling, maybe
mangos, only to have fourteen other mango-selling booths next to him the next time you drive through. "Hey, if he can make money selling mangos, so
can I!!!" Well, as supply and demand dictates, there are only so many mangos to be sold and they all go hungry where one prospered.
First World countries have the same issues, but at much higher levels and at such high societal costs that it takes trillions of dollars (instead of
dozens) to fix the mess the greed creates.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chnlisle
If you drive through there, you are just another chicken to be plucked. Writing to the businesses complaining about the mordida won't do jack for you.
They are as helpless as the rest. |
I never suggested appealing to businesses. I only proposed they be apprised as to why individual plans have changed.
Businesses will extrapolate cause and develop their own response.
I have to believe the business community has some clout left. It's their livlihood at risk. Not ours.
[Edited on 7-11-2010 by DENNIS]
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irenemm
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The Hwy I goes through town? I have never been south. I was talking with a retired cop from Ensenada and I know this from here also. If you are on the
Federal hwy the Local cop can not stop you only a Federal cop black and whites.
A federal cop can not pull you over on the city street.
This cop told me CC is just like Vicente Guerrero, Main Hwy through town and dirt road every where else. She also said (female cop that's right) that
the Police Station is open. It is open everyday. The Delagado's office is closed but the station is open.
Someone stated they got stopped by a federal cop south of San Quintin and he wanted you to pay the fine to him . Just for future reference in the
County of Ensenada which by the way is goes to Guerrero Negro. You can only pay it in Ensenada. NO office out side the City of Ensenada.
So if your on Hwy I you can tell the Officer you know he has no right to stop you on the FEDERAL HWY.
But Dennis is right boycott the businesses and they will do something about the crooked cops.
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fishabductor
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| Quote: | Originally posted by irenemm
But Dennis is right boycott the businesses and they will do something about the crooked cops. |
Consider yourself included by us BCS people, if we are going to boycott all business south of CCD, us Southerns should do the same to all Northern
business. I for one won't be going north of CCD
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Iflyfish
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Jesse
"Federal congresswoman and gubernatorial candidate Esthela Ponce is dining with us, i already explained the problem to her and told her this is
getting out of and, she promises she will do something about it."
Thank you Jesse. Water running through rock created the Grand Canyon and the Copper Canyon. Make a stink, make news, do what Jesse has done with
people you know, report Police Extortion in Ciudad Constitution.
If people have experienced Police Extortion in Ciudad Constitution in the recent past I hope they will join the others who have sent detailed reports
of their experience to:
American Citizen Services
US Consulate General Tijuana
ACSTijuana@state.gov
Please also report your experiences driving through Ciudad Constitution here on Baja Nomads.
Thanks,
Iflyfish
[Edited on 7-11-2010 by Iflyfish]
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Osprey
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I'll let our local regidor know that a large part of 15,000 people who use a common internet forum will not be driving Mex 1 to any distination south
of CC until the police problem there eases back into the 100 peso per stop area. I mean, 7 bucks is like a toll -- you can't expect pavo frio.
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Skeet/Loreto
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Happy Days are here Again!!!!
Keep it up Fish. The people of Constitution are very Happy to here all the crazy DOPER Americano SPEEDERS are going to stay away.!!
Constitution goT started so many years ago and developed into a Great Community with a buNch of Great People. Some of the Best Medical Care in all of
Baja Sur, lots of real help and care for the Poor children out in the Fields.'Rasing lots of good Corn, giving people lots of work, and not giving a
Damn about a bunch of CRY BABY Whimps that are going broke because they got caught Speeding throuGh their To.
Their comment to me,
GOOD RIDDANCE, BAD RUBBISH!!!
Hurray
Constitution: Keep it up! Hope you put on a couple of more Officers as I suggested.
Skeet/Loreto
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
Consider yourself included by us BCS people, if we are going to boycott all business south of CCD, us Southerns should do the same to all Northern
business. I for one won't be going north of CCD |
Good. That's the idea. Tell your friends to do the same.
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Osprey
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Okay, now you've done. That's it. I'm changing my vote. Not voting for Skeet for "Nomad of the Year".
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
I'll let our local regidor know that a large part of 15,000 people who use a common internet forum will not be driving Mex 1 to any distination south
of CC until the police problem there eases back into the 100 peso per stop area. I mean, 7 bucks is like a toll -- you can't expect pavo frio.
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Great. Now you're talkin', Jorge. That will be my fantasy for the day, that even a small percentage of that number of self-centered Americans could
mount such a concerted effort, but it's fun to think about.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Poor children out in the Fields.'Rasing lots of good Corn, |
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087050/
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David K
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Skeet.... in other posts Nomads have reported being pulled over for made up crimes, not for speeding. It reads like pure mordida practices.
I am sure the 'people' of Costitucion are fine Mexicans who deserve our business... but they have a crooked police force from so many reports posted
here.
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Skeet/Loreto
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David K.
That may be so David, But--------------- I do not beleive that most of the people stopped were not speeding.
Sure it is like every other Town in Mesico. Happens every Day.
It is just the way, manner, and words used such as "Brutalized" "Raped" etc.
Just think how bad those Poor Babies look when they come out the South end of Constitution!!!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Just think how bad those Poor Babies look when they come out the South end of Constitution!!! |
Skeeterino....you have a way of characterizing this issue as one of indigestion. 
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
I do not beleive that most of the people stopped were not speeding.
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Careful, Skeet. You'll be giving the city fathers ideas, like posting speed limit signs all over town that show a great big zero. 
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BajaBlanca
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When we were driving north from la paz recently, before reading this forum, we were amazed at how "empty" the streets on CC were. For sure - without a
shadow of a doubt, those businesses need people to spend pesos or they will NOT be in business for very long. There was not one person in the cafe we
stopped at for coffee .... not one person in the restaurant we stopped at for breakfast ... we were alone.
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woody with a view
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they were all in the twilight zone.......
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Marc
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| Quote: | Originally posted by irenemm
The Hwy I goes through town? I have never been south. I was talking with a retired cop from Ensenada and I know this from here also. If you are on the
Federal hwy the Local cop can not stop you only a Federal cop black and whites.
A federal cop can not pull you over on the city street.
This cop told me CC is just like Vicente Guerrero, Main Hwy through town and dirt road every where else. She also said (female cop that's right) that
the Police Station is open. It is open everyday. The Delagado's office is closed but the station is open.
Someone stated they got stopped by a federal cop south of San Quintin and he wanted you to pay the fine to him . Just for future reference in the
County of Ensenada which by the way is goes to Guerrero Negro. You can only pay it in Ensenada. NO office out side the City of Ensenada.
So if your on Hwy I you can tell the Officer you know he has no right to stop you on the FEDERAL HWY.
But Dennis is right boycott the businesses and they will do something about the crooked cops. |
Badges?? We don't gota show you no stinkin' badges!!
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Dave
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Ciudad Constitución
The least they should do is rename the place.
Maybe the city fathers had a sense of humor...or purpose. 
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