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luisartrgz
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It happends all the time!
Its a shame they had to pass trough that!
still American Homes at mexico requires extra care! because thieves know that americans have expensive electric appliances and they in many cases
bring stuff from across the border that could be better sold at the markets.
that aside it happends everywhere! not only in mexico Im pretty sure that if someone has a cabin at some US national park they have the same risks
with no one watching the place or no dogs.
anyway Im Sorry for the shock it must be for them to find out they have been robbed its a hard feel even when its not that much of a loss!
as for the racist topic dont worry im mexican and even I feel ashamed for what some mexicans do time to time!
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noproblemo2
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lookingandbuying
Give Jan a break!! I have always enjoyed her previous posts. After what she went through I am sure her nerves are on end and the comment was not
mean't to harm or demean the entire Mexican population...where she lives and interacts DAILY. I am sure if I explained the storey Jan did to any of
the many Mexican friends I have they would have made a joke simular to the HomeDepot comment Jan did.
Let's appreciate the fact that she took the time to share the story so others can be more watchful over their possessions located in Mexico. A friend
of mine has had copper stripped from his house and going through this type of thing is no fun, at all. Sure helps those selling PVC piping!!!  |
I absolutely agree, she has been thru enough and this should serve as yet another reminder to be more alert and to take whatever precautions you can
to protect yourself and your home.
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knuckles
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So, things are heating up in Baja Norte once again. I have been feeling it in the air for the past month. It has been a partiuclarly bloody week and
just the events on this board indicate that theft and home invasion robbery have increased dramatically, in just the nomad population. I am sure there
are many others. Some recent events have hit very close to home for people who live nearby as well.
What does this say for our area? Do we continue to "ride it out" in hope of realizing our baja dreams? Is this backlash over the AZ law? Or just an
increase of the same old -------- mentality?
We have been here 15 years and we have been very blessed not to have targeted personally. But when we moved in, a former neighbor told us to nail down
everything and showed us where young boys had stolen the crome air caps right off his tires. It was a small thing, but an indication of how some
people think. You and I would might never steal electricity, but here that practice is accepted and widespread. Where does it stop if you are not
taught right from wrong. It means that anything you can get your hands on is yours to take.
How are we going to change that way of thinking? And is it our place to do it? We obviously have a different value system.
As I mentioned, its getting closer to home and more than a few friends and aqaintences have left. I see more and more really sweet little places for
sale at reasonable prices from people who just want out.
Like I told the "Crazy One" once..... You have the choice to leave. (and if she is reading there are some nice Apts. in IB) Or we have the choice to
stay and try to make a diffrence with those who live around us. Sometimes those around us make us see things in a different way.
Its really all about your comfort level. I never had an alarm system up in the states, so do I want to be a slave to security in baja? Not really. I
have a Pit Bull that everyone seems to be afraid of, but he is really a lap dog. My neighbors little rat dogs do all the barking. What I call home
sweet home might be a shack to others. Does that make me less of a target?
So Woooosh....when you say EVERY STREET, why do so many amercians live in such upscale houses. Why not level the playing field and live like the
majority of the popluation here?
[Edited on 7-28-2010 by knuckles]
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mcfez
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Just pointing out
My last response to Gypsy Jan was meant to "just point that out".........not take her the the gallows. I do indeed know that she is a kool kat.....I
being here for years.
Funny.....I hear "all them Americans.........." all the time when in Europe....being herding up into a bad quote.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
Rarely do I say anything here. Your report suggest that ALL Mexicans are thieves. If my home home in California was stripped down, would your report
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This was a Californian version of going to Home Depot and getting everything needed...."
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That's exactly what I would say.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by luisartrgz
still American Homes at mexico requires extra care! because thieves know that americans have expensive electric appliances and they in many cases
bring stuff from across the border that could be better sold at the markets.
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You haven't been to a Home Depot down here, have you. It's all here....the microwaves and toasters, moving off the shelves at a rapid rate. The gap
has almost closed between our middle classes.
The point I do want to make is, Americans I don't believe are targeted because they have better toys. It's just that some of us are too trusting and
leave ourselves vulnerable.
When you combo that with the fact that an investigation into the crime will not happen, the thieves are given an invitation they can't refuse. We
could only make it more complete if we were to help them load their truck.
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knuckles
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And if you cruise on up the road to La Gloria you will find the stripped plumbing, windows, cabinets, doors, etc. for sale at a good price.
Has anyone ever purchased those used building materials and wondered where they all came from and in such good condition?
Yeah, the whole thing sucks. Hope they had insurance.
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toneart
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The Home Depot quote is one I could have passed on, as Jan did. I might have even originated it, knowing what I know about living in Mexico. I do not
think it is a gross insult to all Mexicans, but I do see how someone might be offended. Sometimes people will overtly offend, and others may do so
inadvertently. In this case, I believe it is neither. Being aware of the responsibility of PC, I can tell you that offending is not the intention.
To me,this statement does not infer that "all Mexicans" are thieves. What it does infer is that you are far more likely to lose your possessions if
they are left unattended anywhere in Mexico than in The U.S. (In the U.S., it is more likely to happen if you live in an inner city or a poor
neighborhood). It is more prevalent and more accepted by Mexican culture. These are Crimes of Opportunity. The thinking is: if you abandon your
property, no matter the reason, someone more needy deserves to claim it as their own.
The victims are often Mexicans. Gringos are not targeted per se, other than they usually have more expensive stuff.
Have you ever noticed a vehicle that has to be abandoned by the side of a highway for awhile after being involved in an accident? This is due to,
either they were injured and taken away, or because the vehicle was not operable. Well, that vehicle gets stripped of its contents and its parts very
quickly. Others pass by and look the other way. Es la onda!
I am in no way justifying thievery. As others have pointed out, the reality of living in Mexico is that it is your responsibility to
guard your possessions at all times. If you can't, you will often lose them. You just have to know this! 
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Timo1
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There's another angle to this
A set-up by the home owners for insurance purposes
I know...Gonna hear some flack but SOMEONE knew when these people were
leaving and for how long...Should be an easy investigation to find out who
they told
Something just doesn't ring right with this
sold out and got out !!!
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surfer jim
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Woooosh,
and not nearly as distressing as having the head of the Ministerial Police executed at the PGJE offices last night.
Do you have any more info on this? It sort of got lost in the mess.
[Edited on 7-28-2010 by surfer jim]
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knuckles
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Oh yeah, that is very scary, my buddy who runs the loncheria just next door had just left 15 miniute earlier.
She got my attention with that post.
I confirmed by phone just now. Lots of action on the Blvd. And not good action.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by knuckles
So, things are heating up in Baja Norte once again. |
Not true.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by knuckles
So, things are heating up in Baja Norte once again. |
No, July has been unseasonably cool.
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knuckles
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Help me out Jessie.... Tell me its all going to be ok!
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
To me,this statement does not infer that "all Mexicans" are thieves. What it does infer is that you are far more likely to lose your possessions if
they are left unattended anywhere in Mexico than in The U.S. (In the U.S., it is more likely to happen if you live in an inner city or a poor
neighborhood). It is more prevalent and more accepted by Mexican culture. These are Crimes of Opportunity. The thinking is: if you abandon your
property, no matter the reason, someone more needy deserves to claim it as their own.
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Brilliant. Please provide the facts that support this statement.
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fishabductor
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This same thing happened to our home last year on the eastcape. They basically gutted the house. Took the appliances, dishes, clothes, cook books,
food, vcrs, dvds, tvs, stereos...everything. They had the rest of the stuff boxed up and ready to go, but they got discovered before they could
totally clean out everything. There were at least 4 different trucks involved and who knows how many individuals.
This was sickening and I didn't want to stay in MX. It is now been a year and I am over it and I love baja again...however....I am a lot more prepared
and now I use a storage unit in town. and our home is never ever left alone.
However this happens in the states as well.
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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
To me,this statement does not infer that "all Mexicans" are thieves. What it does infer is that you are far more likely to lose your possessions if
they are left unattended anywhere in Mexico than in The U.S. (In the U.S., it is more likely to happen if you live in an inner city or a poor
neighborhood). It is more prevalent and more accepted by Mexican culture. These are Crimes of Opportunity. The thinking is: if you abandon your
property, no matter the reason, someone more needy deserves to claim it as their own.
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Brilliant. Please provide the facts that support this statement. |
Don't make it to hard.. might slow up some..
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ELINVESTIG8R
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If they had an alarm company monitoring their system and they notified the company when they were leaving and coming back I'd start looking for
someone there. Just a thought!
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Gypsy Jan
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If Any One Who Has Formed An Attitude Cares About the Truth
Please go back to my original post. It is framed in quotes. That means that I was quoting someone else. Yes, I know that to some people that kind
of simile would be offensive, but I did not judge it or edit it out, believing that Nomads can handle varying ways of reporting events, even if the
imagery used is expressed in a way that is offensive to them.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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noproblemo2
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Please go back to my original post. It is framed in quotes. That means that I was quoting someone else. Yes, I know that to some people that kind
of simile would be offensive, but I did not judge it or edit it out, believing that Nomads can handle varying ways of reporting events, even if the
imagery used is expressed in a way that is offensive to them. |
GJ, Some of us did understand that, others well you see what happened, it is all how one interpets it. Thank you for posting this and helping to keep
us aware of a rising situation.
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