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ELINVESTIG8R
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If you sincerely feel in jeopardy please pay the mordida instead of stressing over what may come next. Just negotiate the amount you are willing to
pay. If they say 100 you say 20. If they say 75 you say 30 Etc. 
Yeah, I would never want anyone to suffer stress over a few bucks of extortion even though some of us would not pay. I hold no ill will toward anyone
who feels pressured to pay. It's hard not to. Just pay and move on with your vacation.
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TMW
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I would pay it as you did and have twice now in the past three years.
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El Comadante Loco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
So... How was fishing? |
We made it to BOLA without further accidents and stayed at Las Hamacas, fished 2 days with Joel. Weather was cool for this time of year and the
water cold, no bait in the bay. Yellowtail bite was slow but still there with plenty of small to medium yellows. Did have a shot at a couple of big
ones that got away, broke the line.
On the return we fished San Quintin but again the weather was overcast and cold. Water cold and very green temps down to about 55. No bait in the bay.
Fished with Capt Juan, who knows his stuff. Only option we had was to fish bottom which we did and loaded up on Reds, Sheep Head, White fish and Ling
Cod. Great bottom fishing but we wanted the WSB.. Next time.. Plan two more trips to SQ, August and Sept
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DENNIS
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I see a big difference between paying for an infraction which the driver knows he commited and the highway robbery which is taking place in Cd.
Constitucón. There are some cultural things that we may not understand, but extortion isn't one of them.
I don't know how Ensenada has pulled it off, but the local police don't seem to exibit predatory greed against tourists as some other places do.
Perhaps they save it for the locals.
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rhintransit
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was it mordida? yes.
you hit another car, you didn't notice it, you didn't stop. probably you almost hit the officer, too, as you say he 'must have moved to my blind
spot.' you were guilty. the ticket would have been legit. so you took the easier way of paying for your infraction. the city didn't benefit from
the fine, so there's another 'crime' if you want to look at it that way.
would I have done it given the particular circumstances? probably. I do hope that I wouldn't have made the same driving mistakes but almost everyone
has had or will have one of those times of inattention. I suspect most people, on vacation or not, would take the offered cheaper and easier way out.
reality\'s never been of much use out here...
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Gypsy Jan
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The Good News, No Inflation for Bribes
About six years ago, hubby, Mr. GJ, paid $60 mn to the Ensenada cop who stopped him for "running" a stop sign that wasn't there.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
About six years ago, hubby, Mr. GJ, paid $60 mn to the Ensenada cop who stopped him for "running" a stop sign that wasn't there.
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Now..that's not mordida. That's extortion. We have to know the difference and how we should react to each.
Mordida.....let's talk about it.
Extortion....Let's go see the judge.
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bajabound2005
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TonyC
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabound2005
never had a problem in or around Ensenada and quite frankly, to give in to the mordida...you're all idiots. Never even seen or heard of a cop in
Ensenada suggesting it. Oh, I've lived here full time for 4 years. |
get on your high horse and rotate sir. no need for for name calling.
he explained how it went down, and time...you seem to have alot of...we on vacation don't have. i guess most locals would have handle it
differently....not.
dennis, how long have you lived in baja norte? slap this guy will ya. kidding.
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I'm a SHE not a HE. There was no name calling.
Friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel.
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El Comadante Loco
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" I'm a SHE not a HE. There was no name calling."
" mordida...you're all idiots"
These are your words and the assertion that "you're all idiots" is certainly not intended as a compliment or is it?. Perhaps you can explain why you
choose to label those who do not prescribe to your perception of right and wrong as idiots.
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Baja California and Baja California Sur should have a uniformed bail amount for each infraction listed in Pesos and Dollars. This list should be
placed on a website where it can be downloaded and carried with us in our travels throughout Baja California. Now when we are pulled over by the
police we can politely ask the officer what our violation was so we can check the list to make sure we are not being gouged by them when they demand a
mordida or extortion.
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BajaBlanca
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now that is a good idea - a master list of cost of infractions. must exist somewhere, right ?
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Mexicorn
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Somewhere a polar bear is in need of an ice cube!
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TonyC
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexicorn
Somewhere a polar bear is in need of an ice cube! |
it's mexico...perfect. 
as for you...SHE....like i said "rotate on it". freaken higher then all mighty...i know what's best. YOU JUST DON'T GET IT. how does it feel when
someone jams their opinion down your idiot throat. I'm not name calling.
el loco....your way cool. i'll be in san quintin, august, and september...let's fish. we can talk...about fishing, or idiots...jajajaja.
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viabaja
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El Comandante Loco - $60 well spent! What is your time worth? Especially driving around Ensenada! It is just the way things are in Mexico.
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Udo
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I'm going to suggest to our Ultimate Nomad that we invest in a spell-checker. Perhaps even a grammar checker.
Osprey (the writer) is rolling his eyes right about now.
Udo
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bacquito
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabound2005
never had a problem in or around Ensenada and quite frankly, to give in to the mordida...you're all idiots. Never even seen or heard of a cop in
Ensenada suggesting it. Oh, I've lived here full time for 4 years. |
I agree, at the scene of the accident I would have insisted to the policeman that I was not at fault and asked to go to the delagation to protest my
innocence and also to complain to the delegation about a policeman asking for mordida. That money ended up in his hand.
If you still felt it was best to "pay the fine" to the corrupt cop you should have asked for his name badge number and a written receipt
bacquito
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Marc
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I always thought Ensenada was a "clean" town.
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schwlind
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Never had a problem in Ensenada... but TJ... 3 times... all BS...
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bacquito
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| Quote: | Originally posted by El Comadante Loco
" I'm a SHE not a HE. There was no name calling."
" mordida...you're all idiots"
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Comandate-you are not an idiot but to yield to "mordida" stimulates more "mordida" But I understand your desire to continue your vacation/fishing trip
and hope you had a good time. I have few if any problems in Ensenada with the police and hope to avoid problems.
bacquito
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El Comadante Loco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TonyC
| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexicorn
Somewhere a polar bear is in need of an ice cube! |
it's mexico...perfect.
as for you...SHE....like i said "rotate on it". freaken higher then all mighty...i know what's best. YOU JUST DON'T GET IT. how does it feel when
someone jams their opinion down your idiot throat. I'm not name calling.
el loco....your way cool. i'll be in san quintin, august, and september...let's fish. we can talk...about fishing, or idiots...jajajaja.
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I sent you a U2 but it does not show on my outbox.
Will be in SQ, Old Mill Aug 13-16 and again on Sept 16-19..
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