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surfer jim
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After one really bad round of this stuff some years ago I don't eat ANYTHING from BAJA anymore. Everything comes from home.
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David K
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You sure miss a lot of the good 'Mexico' experience by being overly cautious.
I got seriously sick after eating a clam c-cktail in San Felipe back in 2003 (I had them in San Vicente and Ensenada previously without an issue).
So, no more raw clam coctails for me (as a precaution)... but if I stopped eating all Mexican food after that, I would be missiong a big part of the
Baja experience (and maybe some extra pounds)!
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bajabass
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| Quote: | Originally posted by surfer jim
After one really bad round of this stuff some years ago I don't eat ANYTHING from BAJA anymore. Everything comes from home. |
That is too bad Jim! Some of the best
food I've eaten in my life has come from Baja! Got M.R. once, on my way out of Mexico City. Bad ice at the airport bar. Hit me before I got off the
plane. I eat in Baja almost every weekend, and have never gotten sick. Maybe 4 years of Marine Corps food built up my immune system!
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Pompano
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I've spent 40 seasons in Baja Sur.
I've had Montezuma's Revenge at least 40 times.
If I didn't get it at least once a year, it wouldn't be Baja, would it?. 
p.s. Charmin Extra Soft...I buy it by the pallet at Costco.
[Edited on 8-25-2010 by Pompano]
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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toneart
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Yuck! I don't want to go down that "slippery slope"!  
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bajajurel
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Always carry Cipro!
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Curt63
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On Friday night, my buddy and I danced with Montezumas wife all night long, but no vomiting.
By morning we were done with it.
She showed up about 10:30 pm. 4 hours after a dinner of ceviche and 15 hours after eating a carne asada torta
We suspect it was unrinsed cilantro that we put in the ceviche (made with mexican vegetables).
Torta or cilantro? Any thoughts?
No worries
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BornFisher
PART 2--
Well it all started out at the carnitas place, or the shrimp taco fried in butter place, or it may have come from the "Bomb" burrito I bought early in
the morning for breakfast. I`ve read that the incubation period may
Luckily I made it home before it really started tearing me up. Won`t get into the details here but let`s just say it was a horrible 2 step for the
next several hours.
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why are you telling us this? i mean, it's fun to joke around about poop, but none of us really care to hear the details about your actual ch1t.
your telling your story here makes me think you think you are the first person to ever have an upset tummy!
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surfer jim
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...maybe you should try some of those shrimp tacos or the "bomb" burrito and report back on how you feel?......
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wessongroup
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goat .... think about it... ya might lose some pretty good stuff..... like Pompano's
"I buy it by the pallet at Costco" ,,,, or Tone's
"slippery slope"
just saying.. 
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Cypress
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Was sick once, some bad Tecate.
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Curt63
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Hey 666
Next time you cruise this site, check out the subject before you start reading. It's usually an indication (not always) of what's being discussed. If
there are subjects you don't want to hear about, you know what to do.
No worries
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bajabass
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Both Bill and this thread are old!! Just kidding Bill, see ya tomorrow!!
Keep your eyes on the road, and your hands upon the wheel!
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MitchMan
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Haven't had MR since I stopped putting 'crema' on my tacos.
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mcfez
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In the days that we used to visit Puerto Vallarta.... back in the early 80's ......everyone emphasized bottled water...or soda, so that they would not
get the ol' Montezuma`s Revenge. Picky picky picky were my friends about getting "that water" into their bodies.
and .....I used to sit there and watch them eat salads at the restaurant.....washed with tap water !
Been sick with Montezuma`s Revenge once. I will not go into details of that night in Hell .....down past Pueritcitos
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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Kalypso
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Curt63
On Friday night, my buddy and I danced with Montezumas wife all night long, but no vomiting.
By morning we were done with it.
She showed up about 10:30 pm. 4 hours after a dinner of ceviche and 15 hours after eating a carne asada torta
We suspect it was unrinsed cilantro that we put in the ceviche (made with mexican vegetables).
Torta or cilantro? Any thoughts? |
My bet is on the torta. The incubation time is too short for the unrinsed cilantro.
Most food born bacteria take anywhere from 8 hours to 5 days to produce symptoms.
There are 2 notable exceptions, Staph and Vibiro. Staph actually produces toxins, and symptoms can begin in as little as an hour after eating
contaminated food. With vibiro the onset happens in about 4 hours, but takes 1-2 days to clear the body. If vibiro was the culprit it would have been
from the raw fish/seafood in your ceviche, not the cilantro.
E.Coli, salmonella and campylobactor are the 3 common causes of food borne illnesses, and if the infection isn't too bad, will clear the body
relatively quickly. None of these will survive too long exposed to air, nor do they like salt or acid (think lime juice).
Don't any of you use Microdyne? All you gotta do is soak your fruits and veggies in it for 15 minutes and you're good to go. Available at most Mexican
grocery stores. A few drops of regular old household bleach in a gallon of water will do the same thing.
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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Kalypso
| Quote: | Originally posted by Curt63
On Friday night, my buddy and I danced with Montezumas wife all night long, but no vomiting.
By morning we were done with it.
She showed up about 10:30 pm. 4 hours after a dinner of ceviche and 15 hours after eating a carne asada torta
We suspect it was unrinsed cilantro that we put in the ceviche (made with mexican vegetables).
Torta or cilantro? Any thoughts? |
My bet is on the torta. The incubation time is too short for the unrinsed cilantro.
Most food born bacteria take anywhere from 8 hours to 5 days to produce symptoms.
There are 2 notable exceptions, Staph and Vibiro. Staph actually produces toxins, and symptoms can begin in as little as an hour after eating
contaminated food. With vibiro the onset happens in about 4 hours, but takes 1-2 days to clear the body. If vibiro was the culprit it would have been
from the raw fish/seafood in your ceviche, not the cilantro.
E.Coli, salmonella and campylobactor are the 3 common causes of food borne illnesses, and if the infection isn't too bad, will clear the body
relatively quickly. None of these will survive too long exposed to air, nor do they like salt or acid (think lime juice).
Don't any of you use Microdyne? All you gotta do is soak your fruits and veggies in it for 15 minutes and you're good to go. Available at most Mexican
grocery stores. A few drops of regular old household bleach in a gallon of water will do the same thing. |
Iodine solution will do the same. Used on organic farms.
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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BajaBlanca
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boy...we eat everything in Baja going both up and down the coast various time all year long and have never gotten the revenge here..The mainland got
us both last may when we went - I hazard to venture that perhaps one slowly builds up an immunity ? and that is why we have never gotten it in Baja
???
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Oso
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The worst Toltec Two-Step I've ever had was from a Big Mac in McAllen, TX First "gringo food" NOB after 3 yrs of Mexico City street tacos with no ill
effect. Go figure.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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Kalypso
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBlanca
boy...we eat everything in Baja going both up and down the coast various time all year long and have never gotten the revenge here..The mainland got
us both last may when we went - I hazard to venture that perhaps one slowly builds up an immunity ? and that is why we have never gotten it in Baja
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BB, thanks for jogging my memory. Yes, to the fact that your system has acclimated to the germs in your local environment and if you travel up and
down the state you've probably collected a pretty good variety of them 
I travel very frequently on the mainland and rarely have problems. There are a few things that I've found useful as a preventative:
1) Yogurt with live bacteria. A lot of the yogurt in Mexico does not contain live culture, but I think Altapura does.
2) Yakult, it works. Tastes a bit like lemon yogurt. You can unleash billions of live bacteria into your gut all at once. In fact, the more the
better. When first introduced to Mexico it dropped the rate of diarreha and other intestingal related problems by about 70%.
3) Probiotics. I found one earlier this year that doesn't need to be refrigerated so I can take them with me. These things are like gold. No
intestinal problems whatsoever on teh last 2 trips.
This is not a case where more is better. Do not take all 3 together or you'll end up with the problem you're trying to avoid . Too much Yakult or probiotic tends to act as a laxative.
You can eat for prevention too.
[Edited on 10-25-2011 by Kalypso]
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