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akshadow
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A little off topic but?
We are in Ocotillo and agree with your comments. I keep bringing up lights and have been successful in getting some neighbors to stop with them and
others to only have motion lights or us a sconce the covers the bulb and aims all light downward.
Another good solution is a rope light behind a baffle, light is soft and not in your eyes.
We had/have a problem with someone building in excess of 14 feet, but as landlord is not going to burn it down we just look to the right and luckily
get almost as good a view.
I think most landlords want to be agreeable and they typically make money when someone builds, a percentage of the construction contract.
| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
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In the leased land agreement at Campos Ocotillo...it is clear that no more than 14 feet total height.
.....But it dont matter.....a single home went in kitty cornered from us and did partial block of the sea. We bought the other remaining lots!
As far as the 14 ft limit....not really being enforced either. We just go with the flow...because we are indeed in a development and expected issues.
Lights...wait till everyone puts in those stinking lights for "security". So much for the stars at night. Oh...in the lease agreement too...no night
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Ron San Felipe Oct, Nov. Feb. Mar. April. remainder in Juneau Ak
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bajamigo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Where is Pedro on this? He can't be this much of a hoar...or, can he? Whatever your agreement may be, It's probably unenforceable...meaningless. I'm
sure you know this.
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I've spoken to Pedro [the landlord] three times, but he's playing a terrific ostrich. I told him that if I attempt to enforce the lease, there
probably will be gov't types running all over the camp; because we have a lot of fixed buildings, it's not really a camp any more, it's a
development---very different tax treatment. He seems sympathetic but unmoved.
Deep down, I'm pretty confident that there's no way to enforce the lease in this country, but I'll go forward in hopes of doing just that, not merely
harassing the a-hole who's putting up the building.
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slimshady
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Build a septic tank and put a outhouse on top along the property line. Also get roosters and goats.
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mcfez
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Ron.....your house is blocking my view of the sea. Please tear it down...oh...and rid Jack and Amy's too :-) Haven't seen you since we came up a few
years ago.....must change that.
Talk about changes with tall structures and FREAKING lights.....now Salvador wants to chain link the entire camp to keep the bad guys out. Mmmmmm...
change the name of Campos Ocotillo to Camp America! Deno/Jeanette and the Nic
| Quote: | Originally posted by akshadow
A little off topic but?
We are in Ocotillo and agree with your comments. I keep bringing up lights and have been successful in getting some neighbors to stop with them and
others to only have motion lights or us a sconce the covers the bulb and aims all light downward.
Another good solution is a rope light behind a baffle, light is soft and not in your eyes.
We had/have a problem with someone building in excess of 14 feet, but as landlord is not going to burn it down we just look to the right and luckily
get almost as good a view.
I think most landlords want to be agreeable and they typically make money when someone builds, a percentage of the construction contract.
| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
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In the leased land agreement at Campos Ocotillo...it is clear that no more than 14 feet total height.
.....But it dont matter.....a single home went in kitty cornered from us and did partial block of the sea. We bought the other remaining lots!
As far as the 14 ft limit....not really being enforced either. We just go with the flow...because we are indeed in a development and expected issues.
Lights...wait till everyone puts in those stinking lights for "security". So much for the stars at night. Oh...in the lease agreement too...no night
lights! |
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Sculpin
Here are my suggestions:
If you have the same landlord, quit paying your rent until it is resolved.
Begin an affinity for very loud scream or death metal music.
Start collecting wind spiders, and periodically free them all at the same time.
Start a steer manure farm.
Tell your friends in low places that you swear there are hay bales in his garage.
Tap into his pilar and start growing stawberries, melons and avocados.
Put fish heads in his hubcaps and see how long it takes him to figure it out.
Tell your other friends in low places that the c-ckfights are at his house on friday nights.
Collect revolutionary and civil war cannons and place them strategically around your property. Play the 1812 overture repeatedly.
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Absolutely hilarious! 
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajamigo
Deep down, I'm pretty confident that there's no way to enforce the lease in this country, but I'll go forward in hopes of doing just that, not merely
harassing the a-hole who's putting up the building. |
So....this turns into a war between you and Pedro.
There must be another way. That will be certain suicide.
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Pompano
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'View' management.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
probably easiest to just get the F..out of dodge... |
That's only an option if there's a realestate market. You haven't seen Bajamigo's house. It's not one you would abandon.
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DENNIS
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"View' management."
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I love it.
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bajadock
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Bajamigo,
OUCH. Looks like an organization of your community(and I hate HOAs) in attempting pressure on the village idiot is only way.
MUST keep your great view of the dolphins. That's why Barney came back.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
I read the words lease and landlord..and figured it was a leased/rented home. |
Only the land is leased.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajadock
Bajamigo,
OUCH. Looks like an organization of your community(and I hate HOAs) in attempting pressure on the village idiot is only way.
MUST keep your great view of the dolphins. That's why Barney came back. |
It's a sad day when we would contemplate a legal battle with our landlord. Especially here. Mexicans have oriental patience and long memories, not to
mention a "lease" is renogotiated every ten years.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
Scary...There was just a deal in WA state a few years back, where the Tulalip tribe had leased lots of beachfront land to non natives. They have
decided to not renew the leases. the home owners have decided that they are going to throw a big bonfire party and torch the homes when there time is
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At which time they will probably learn that they don't really own the houses either.
It's the same thing here.
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windgrrl
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Some time ago, a very thin, young couple with their small thin children, two Malamute x Rottweiler beasts and a male friend move into a tiny house
beside ours. Everything about these folks on their move in looked like trouble and the next big party central meth operation.
We were concerned about the changes in our neighborhood and worried about what to do as it seemed as though our peaceful situation was about to
destablize.
I thought about how it is to start up in a new place and thought that perhaps the best strategy was to welcome the new tenants to the neighborhood.
So, I bough some frozen pizzas & soft drinks, wentt over, waded through the foot deep diapers and toys, introduced myself and said "welcome".
The dogs ate the sofa set that was set out in our new neighbours back yard, and although we never were friends, these neighbours were quiet, friendly
and allies for the time they lived there. The house next to them was the subject of a police tactical team event and it turned out that those nice
boys from the next province who seemed to be college students were dealing drugs 24/h per day!
We eventually bugged out when the formerly blue collar neighborhood "turned rental" when the seniors died or moved on and the crime rate exceeded our
tolerance level, but it always pays to get to know the neighbours.
It might not be worth talking to your new neighbours, but you never know what is possible if you haven't tried this route.
When the way comes to an end, then change. Having changed, you pass through.
~ I-Ching
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
let me get this straight. You buy all the materials, pay all the labor to build the house, pay the permits and you don't own it?
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Not unless it has wheels on it. If you attach it to the ground, it belongs to the land owner.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
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Yeah..I know, but if you know this going in, you have to accept it as part of the gamble.
Who couldn't be aware of this point when building in a community where people discuss everything.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
How long is the lease? How much time remains? Can you sell it off to a 3rd party? |
Sure...if you could find a buyer, but it isn't like it used to be. People just arn't driving around looking for houses to buy.
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Udo
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Motorhomes are the only ones with wheels on them. (That's our retirement home)
However, Bajamigo has an extremely nice house built on leased land. The kitchen alone is worth the price of the house.
Since the framers did not use pressure treated redwood 2X's and only used douglass fir for the footings, I think I would inject some termite cultures
between the cement and the wooden footings.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
let me get this straight. You buy all the materials, pay all the labor to build the house, pay the permits and you don't own it?
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Udo
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
The Half Moon Bay 'Beach House' below was burned down for that very same reason.
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I was living in Moss Beach when this happened
Bob Durrell
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durrelllrobert
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back in the 60's someone built a 2 story in front of my boss' house in Pt loma overlooking the bay. After trying everything else he finally had his
house jacked up 20 ft and had a very ugly foundation built under it (also installed an elevator). The guy that blocked his view couldn't stand looking
at this ugly mess and moved away.
Bob Durrell
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