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k-rico
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Does anybody else think that Mexican Walmarts are expensive places to shop? After the first visit, we haven't shopped at the Walmart closest to us.
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Bajahowodd
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Maybe it has something to do with the fact that it's not really the same company as NOB. While this article gives a detailed history of what is now
known as WalMart de Mexico, it mentions that NOB WalMart is a 51% owner. I've seen elsewhere that the figure is 31%.
http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/WalMart-de-...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Does anybody else think that Mexican Walmarts are expensive places to shop? After the first visit, we haven't shopped at the Walmart closest to us.
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140 Ps for a quart of Mobile 1. That's expensive.
Everything costs more...some more than others. I don't look at the prices if I want the item. It's just frustrating.
One thing I do miss, is the line of Equate products. I think that's a WalMart brand. No Big-Roy products either. They don't offer a line of cut-rate
stuff here.
Rico...you live thirty minutes away from a real WalMart. You have an option.
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BajaRat
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Dennis: The planting of Corn has increase 100 flod in the past couple of years due to WATER,Dairies being inticed to come here where now the Largest
Cheese Company in the World operates{Dalhart TX}. Even here close to Town the Farmers have stopped Wheat and Hay and going to Corn. Which is already
sucking down some peoples Wells.
I have many good friends in Constitution and they say it is boomin.
Ajarat Since you are talking about Killing People in various Countries, Why do not you get your Buddies in Mexico to stop shipping DOPE to the States!
It is killing our Children!!! |
Skeet/Loreto,
Nice off topic response. The countries are not various, Their Tebet and China. Please do not insinuate that you know anyone I know, and please make
Spell Check your new best friend.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaRat
Tebet
please make Spell Check your new best friend. |
Jes funnin' wicha, Rat.
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[Edited on 9-26-2010 by DENNIS]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaRat
| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
EVERYBODY should live within a short driving distance to Walmart. |
Apparently you hit the Walton family
business model on the nail head. When Sam Walton started out his plan was to work with U.S. manufacturers and create products that could compete with
foreign products. The billionaire children and board have changed that model to mostly cheap inferior products that must be bought over and over
again. They do business with countries of questionable human rights policies and in the case of China full blown occupation of sovereign Tibet killing
many of its people and destroying many of its ancient temples.
If you look at many of the products in Mexico they are made in Mexico, employing Mexican citizens supporting the Mexican economy. What happened to
the small businesses and manufacturing in the U.S. will surely have the same effect on local Mexican business and manufacturing. I enjoy my Mexican
durable products, doing business with local Mexican families and knowing that I am supporting the Mexican economy. Haven't these corporations done
enough damage to the U.S. economy and its people?  Be good
to Mexico and its local merchants and tell Walmart I'll see them in hell.
" But for the love of money they looked the other way "
Lionel |
Check out the documentary: Walmart: The High
Cost of Low Prices
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I agree...that documentary is an eye-opener. After I watched it I refused to shop in Wal-Mart for quite some time. Unfortunately, living in a small
town, Wal-Mart is really the only major retailer, since it has put many a Mom and Pop biz out of biz. I think what BajaRat is trying to say is that
Wal-Mart has put a major damper on small, local business, and it would be a shame to see that happen in Baja too.
And to Skeet....the difference between Mexico/US relations and Chinese/Tibetan relations is very simple. There is a demand for the drugs on "our"
side, so they bring it to us. If there was no demand, there would be no drugs. It's very elementary economics. There was (and is) NO demand for the
obliteration of the Tibetan people and culture, but that didn't (and won't) stop the Chinese government from destroying them and attempting to
assimilate them. There really is no comparison.
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Skeet/Loreto
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People are dieing because of the Acts of other People to make Money, It does not make any difference . Please do not try to Blame the United States
for the "Slaughter of people in other countries. Or did I read your Post Wrong???
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bajafam
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Not blaming the US. If there is blame to place, then I place it on greed and the love of power.
To quote the late, great Jimi Hendrix: "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
So, yes, you read my post wrong 
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BajaRat
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaRat
Tebet
please make Spell Check your new best friend. |
Jes funnin' wicha, Rat.
Nice work, that's what I get for telling someone to use spell check!!
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[Edited on 9-26-2010 by DENNIS] |
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We've had a Wally and Sam's Club open in Guaymas in the last 4 months.
Bottom line: for the same items, Soriana's is beating the pants off Walmart and Sam's for the same items.
This is definitely not your NOB Walmart pricing.
But the selection, especially the veges, is quite a bit better at the Walmart.
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The current Wal-Mart model was beginning while Sam was still alive. When we were living in Guatemala, we knew the family who was manufacturing and
supplying Wal-Mart with much of their outside plastic furniture and other food storage plastic items. Wal-Mart was still advertising, American ONLY.
Garbage.
That family was VERY wealthy because they had been supplying Wal Mart for a number of years.
We knew that family as their kids attended the school where we taught. They were not nice people in any way and they treated their employees like
dirt. They and the likes of them are one reason we left that school.
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We LOVE Walmart
Those who don't down in Baja - No Worries.
According to Almost ALL the detractors here, their prices are high and non-competitive.
Therefore, they won't survive.
and, YOUR problems are solved.
SO, quit worrying and complaining.
Hard to believe they'd make such a bad business decision, even with the lessened ownership position, but it must be true.
It was written here, right ?
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Bajahowodd
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I'm no fan of WalMart. That said, when we spend time in Cabo, we usually shop there. For one reason. Location. I happen to like Soriana. But, in their
case and that of formerly CCC, their stores were inconveniently located. Walmart is not only right at the edge of the tourist district, but has, along
with their co-located Sam's Club, a dedicated on-ramp/ overpass on Mex 1. Legend has it that when Soriana and CCC were looking to build in Cabo, they
were stymied by none other than BCS's first governor, Aramburo, who it is said, used his major political clout to keep any competition from the state.
He had a monopoly for years.
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DENNIS
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I particularly like Comercial Mexicana for a lot of reasons.
It seems an incomplete evaluation between stores when price isn't a factor. They're all high relative to the states and true to their form, they keep
competition to a minimum. I just don't look at prices in a comparative way anymore. Whatever the price may be, I'm assured it will fit in my
budget...somewhere.
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[Edited on 9-27-2010 by DENNIS]
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vacaenbaja
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That whole area is living on borrowed time. As soon as the
aquafers dry up so will everything else.
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Bajahowodd
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What Area?
| Quote: | Originally posted by vacaenbaja
That whole area is living on borrowed time. As soon as the
aquafers dry up so will everything else. |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vacaenbaja
That whole area is living on borrowed time. As soon as the
aquafers dry up so will everything else. |
This has been going around for more than 20 years, it seems with all the agriculture it would have happened by now.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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oladulce
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My only experience with Mexican Walmarts has been the La Paz store and no, it's not the same as a US Walmart. No extensive household goods, no fabric
and sewing, not much sporting goods or camping items, no spray paint and minimal hardware, one tiny row of auto stuff, not a big selection of lotion
and toothpaste etc.
9 volt batteries, the little batteries for calculators/alarms, mini video DVD camera tapes, a decent toaster (for less than $300 p), a pillow, a small
framed mirror - so far we've clocked a few hours driving around Cd C trying to locate these items which we were able to find on one trip to Walmart.
I'm very sorry about the plight of Tibet, but unless a Sherpa would like to bring me a battery for my smoke detector, I'll continue to go to Walmart.
If that is going to be a Walmart in Cd C it's mainly the food dept that will make me happy. Food is not cheap here, which I don't have to
tell you seasoned veterans of Baja/BCS living.
Super Ley comes close to Walmart prices on some things but the 5-20 peso difference in price on most things starts to add up. Meat, cheese, milk,
yogurt...
Of course the only price I can recall to give as an example is a 12 pack of Tecate light:
$110 p local price in my town
$100 p Super Ley
95 p City Club
85 p Walmart
I would pick up a Krokodile lure whenever I was in a CA Walmart before we moved- price $5.95. I saw Krokodiles at the La Paz Walmart- $290 pesos! I am
trying extra hard not to loose them on the rocks now.
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Bajahowodd
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Mentioned it before, but might bear repeating. The folks running "WalMex" are not the folks in Arkansas. And they recognize their competition, and go
no farther than they have to. It is somehow ironically amusing that Mexico, with a wage structure far below that in the US would be forced to pay more
for so many staples. But then. just maybe the US is headed in that same direction. After all, Mexico has witnessed a history of a small oligarchic
class holding down the masses. What's been going on NOB looks like they are emulating the same model.
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