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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
maybe they need something like the 7 Samurai |
Yul Brynner?
"Mexico cleansed by the King of Siam." 
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
You guys are in the trenches, so to speak, and are better references for current conditions than anything we can glean from the media, or from
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Tony....there's a lot of real news available concerning the mayhem and in English as well. Maggie's blog would convince even the most resistant that
problems are huge.
Thing seems to be, many don't want to know the full truth. It doesn't mix well with their ideal, their fantasy world. They only continue to claim
everything is just fine or better than those nasty places in the US. [Gawd....I hate it when they do that. It's the ultimate dismissal of reality]
Anyway....I don't see much because I stay away from locations where crap is likely to happen, but that doesn't mean it's not happening.
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[Edited on 12-18-2010 by DENNIS] |
Thank you for your reply, Dennis. I agree! Stay safe.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
Dennis, Woooosh, Lizard Lips- Violence is intensifying in Rosorito and surrounding areas too. Are you guys comfortable hangin' in?
This is not a trap leading to criticism. I am not a troll. It is necessary for all of us to constantly reassess. You guys are in the trenches, so to
speak, and are better references for current conditions than anything we can glean from the media, or from armchair nob Baja know-it-alls.
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Yeah, I'm comfortable enough to hang for now. This second crime wave coming through isn't like the first one. The first wave took most of the
corrupt police with it. I have strong confidence in the police captains this time around. Neighborhood gangster crime is on the rise and there is a
very visible Marino presence on the streets. Lot's of property crime- if you like it, don't leave it outside or alone. The rules for the local drug
dealers have changed, everyone has to chose a side and all pay Chapo now too- or else. It's def more violent, but we don't feel it is necessarily
more dangerous than before. It is good local bloggers post the real-time news, because Rosarito is trying to attract tourism and has enlisted
cross-border agencies to support that effort. Reporting crime is a tourism bummer and they don't do it much anymore. It's like beating a dead horse.
[Edited on 12-19-2010 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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BillP
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| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
here is what I talking about, this was posted on Fulano files just a few days ago
Mexico Outraged By Killing of Anti-Crime Crusader
Sign: "If it was your daughter,
what would you do?"
CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico – Anger over Mexico's creaky, inefficient justice system boiled over after a mother who waged a two-year battle to bring her
daughter's killer to justice was herself shot to death, possibly by the same man suspected of murdering the teenager.
A security video recording shows masked men pulling up in a car in front of the governor's office in the northern city of Chihuahua. One appeared to
exchange words with anti-crime crusader Marisela Escobedo Ortiz, who was holding a vigil outside.
She tried to flee by running across the street, but the gunman chased her down and shot her in the head late Thursday, said Jorge Gonzalez, special
state prosecutor for crime prevention.
Escobedo was taken by ambulance to a hospital, where she died within minutes.
On Friday, a group of demonstrators gathered outside the Interior Department in Mexico City to protest the killing, briefly scuffling with police
while chanting "Not one more death!"
And far to the north in Ciudad Juarez, where Escobedo's 17-year-old daughter's burned and dismembered remains were found in a trash bin in June 2009,
activists protested outside the state prosecutors office with signs demanding "Justice for Marisela."
Thursday's slaying "shows that in Mexico it is the victim who suffers, without protection," veteran anti-crime activist Alejandro Marti said.
The scandal resulted in the suspension of three judges who had ordered the release of the main suspect in the daughter's killing after he was absolved
by a court in April for lack of evidence.
That man, Sergio Barraza, is now a chief suspect in the mother's death, said Carlos Gonzalez, a spokesman for the attorney general's office in
Chihuahua state, where Ciudad Juarez is located.
Escobedo's daughter, Rubi Frayre Escobedo, disappeared in Ciudad Juarez, across from El Paso, Texas, in 2008.
After the body was discovered last year, the mother launched a campaign pressing for a conviction in the case. Escobedo staged numerous marches, once
wearing no clothes, wrapped only in a banner with her daughter's photograph.
"This struggle is not only for my daughter," Escobedo said through a megaphone at that march, her voice breaking. "Let's not allow one more young
woman to be killed in this city."
Three days ago, she planted herself in front of the offices of Gov. Cesar Duarte and vowed not to move until investigators showed progress in the
case. In an interview with the newspaper El Diario on Sunday, Escobedo said she had received death threats from Barraza's family.
Duarte said state security officials had been assigned to guard Escobedo, although from a distance. He said their failure to protect her Thursday
would be investigated.
Duarte had also called on the state's top court to suspend the three judges.
On Friday, court president Javier Ramirez Benitez said they would be suspended pending an investigation. Ramirez Benitez said an oversight commission
found earlier this year that the case was improperly handled.
Prosecutors said Barraza, Frayre's live-in boyfriend, admitted murdering her and led police to the body. But at trial he proclaimed his innocence and
claimed he had been tortured into confessing. The judges ruled in April that prosecutors failed to present material evidence against him.
The case exemplifies the problems of the judicial system in Chihuahua state, one of the first to adopt oral trials instead of the closed-door
interrogations and filings of documents used for most Mexican trials.
Despite training, Chihuahua police and prosecutors have struggled to adapt to a system that puts the burden of proof on prosecutors. Many homicide
cases have been thrown out for lack of evidence or never make it to trial.
Often, police rely solely on confessions that suspects later claim were made under duress. Newly captured suspects in much of Mexico are often
displayed to the press with bruised faces.
Police in Ciudad Juarez have been overwhelmed by drug gang battles that have made the city one of the world's deadliest. More than 3,000 people have
been killed in the city of 1.3 million this year alone.
Records obtained by The Associated Press show that last year, when 2,600 people were killed in Ciudad Juarez, prosecutors filed 93 homicide cases and
got 19 convictions.
Chihuahua's judicial deficiencies go back years before the new system was implemented, before drug violence soared to unprecedented levels.
In the 1990s, hundreds of women were killed around Ciudad Juarez, about 100 of whom were sexually assaulted and dumped in the desert. Here's a
newstory about the incident in Spanish.
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To add a final insult, they torched the family's business. Sad.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/dec/18/anti-crime-cr...
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By JUAN CARLOS LLORCA Associated Press
Posted: 12/19/2010 10:52:13 AM MSTUpdated: 12/19/2010 06:52:06 PM MST
COBAN, Guatemala—The Guatemalan military declared a state of siege Sunday in a northern province that authorities say has been overtaken by Mexican
drug traffickers.
The government initiated the monthlong measure in the Alta Verapaz province to reclaim cities that have been taken over by the Zetas drug gang,
Ronaldo Robles, a spokesman for Guatemalan President Alvaro Colom, told radio station Emisoras Unidas.
"It is to bring peace to the people and recover their confidence in the government," he said.
A state of siege allows the army to detain suspects without warrants, conduct warrantless searches, prohibit gun possession and public gatherings, and
control the local news media. Guatemalan law allows the measure amid acts of terrorism, sedition or "rebellion," or when events "put the
constitutional order or security of the state in danger."
The state of siege was put in place for 30 days, but "will last as long as necessary," Colom told Emisoras Unidas. He asked citizens to trust and
cooperate with authorities.
The Zetas are a group of ex-soldiers who started as hit men for the Gulf drug cartel before breaking off on their own, quickly becoming one of
Mexico's most violent gangs and spreading a reign of terror into Central America. They are notorious for their brutality, having pioneered the
now-widespread practice of beheading rivals and officials.
In addition to drugs, The Zetas have branched out into all manner of organized crime activity: extorting businesses; smuggling oil stolen from
pipelines; controlling the sale of pirated CDs and DVDs; and charging migrants "fees" to pass through their territory.
The cartel is blamed for some of the worst of Mexico's soaring drug violence—including the massacre in August of 72 migrants who refused to join their
ranks. An ongoing turf war with their former allies, the Gulf cartel, has terrorized much of the northeastern states of Tamaulipas and Nuevo Leon.
In Guatemala, Robles said numerous cities in Alta Verapaz province have been overrun by drug traffickers and that the government decided it was time
to take them back.
Anti-drug agents wearing ski masks to hide their identity patrolled the streets of the provincial capital, Coban, on Sunday.
Police officers and soldiers searched at least 16 homes and offices, as well as all vehicles entering and exiting the city, the government said on its
website.
Gudy Rivera, a congressman from the opposition Patriotic Party, said the government's action came too late.
The state of siege also is meaningless "if we continue to have police corruption, a weak justice system and weak jails," added David Martinez Amador,
an analyst and expert on criminal behavior.
Guatemalan news media have reported that the local population lives in fear of drug traffickers, who they say roam the streets in all-terrain vehicles
and armed with assault weapons. Some were forced to give up their property to the traffickers, according to the reports.
A leaked Oct. 28, 2009 cable from the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City described a proposal by Mexican Defense Secretary Gen. Guillermo Galvan Galvan to
control the violence in that country by calling a type of state of emergency suspending some constitutional rights in several cities.
Then-Interior Minister Fernando Gomez Mont batted down the idea, and in the cable, then-Charge d'Affaires John Feeley said that U.S. government
analysis showed the benefits were "uncertain at best, and the political costs appear high."
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This is all very scary! I guess I live in a fantasy world too, but, I never go where there are problems and I never go anywhere at night. I too love
the people and the Baja we all know and love. It does scare me but hopefully it doesn't happen near me. I do not want to leave here.
Carlita and Esteban
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by cjesme
This is all very scary! I guess I live in a fantasy world too, but, I never go where there are problems and I never go anywhere at night. I too love
the people and the Baja we all know and love. It does scare me but hopefully it doesn't happen near me. I do not want to leave here.
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Now you are feeling and acting exactly like your Mexican neighbors.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lizard lips
I have investigated at least 60 murders in the state of Chihuahua in the last ten years. I won't go there anymore. I won't go anywhere along the
border in Texas as I had for several years. I have turned down at least 20k in business in the past year because it is now to dangerous.
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...and yet, eventhough the US StateDepartment advises not to travel there, the US Consulate in Juarz is the only place on the US/MX border where they
conduct the final interviews for US Visas/ green cards WTF?
Bob Durrell
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desertcpl
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| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
| Quote: | Originally posted by lizard lips
I have investigated at least 60 murders in the state of Chihuahua in the last ten years. I won't go there anymore. I won't go anywhere along the
border in Texas as I had for several years. I have turned down at least 20k in business in the past year because it is now to dangerous.
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...and yet, eventhough the US StateDepartment advises not to travel there, the US Consulate in Juarz is the only place on the US/MX border where they
conduct the final interviews for US Visas/ green cards WTF? |
I agree what is wrong with this picture,, you talk about being stuck on stupid?
and Mexico wants to run with the big dogs,
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
...and yet, even though the US StateDepartment advises not to travel there, the US Consulate in Juarz is the only place on the US/MX border where they
conduct the final interviews for US Visas/ green cards WTF? |
Their advice to stay away is directed to American citizens. We don't need US visas or Green Cards.
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Woooosh
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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/dec/28/41-mexican-pr...
41 Mexican prison guards charged in mass jailbreak
BY THE ASSOCIATED PRESS,
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 28, 2010 AT 5:16 P.M.
MEXICO CITY — More than 40 prison guards have been charged with helping 153 inmates escape from a prison in a northern Mexican border city.
The federal Attorney General's office says in a statement that 41 guards have been accused of opening the gates of the prison in Nuevo Laredo, across
the border from Laredo, Texas. If convicted, the guards face up to 20 years in prison.
Authorities initially said 141 prisoners escaped Dec. 17, but the statement Monday said the number was 153.
The fugitives were being held for trial or had been convicted of crimes ranging from robbery to drug trafficking.
Tamaulipas has been torn by turf battles between the Gulf and Zetas drug gangs, but it was unclear whether any of the inmates belonged to those
groups.
The Associated Press
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Dave
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The irony
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
If convicted, the guards face up to 20 years in prison.
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Yeah, well, they could get 20 years...
However...............................
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