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mcfez
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let's resolve this issue
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[Yes Bob, thanks... I just was making a bad joke because of the Shell Beach stuff Deno was posting... Have a nice Sunday! |
Wow, did you say "Shell Beach"....  |
Yes, because that is what Deno was calling it... Shell Beach is near Mulege. |
let's rename the island.
McFez Island
[Edited on 2-14-2011 by mcfez]
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thanks for the info about where Shell Island/Beach is. I'll make a new post is clearer.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob H
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[Yes Bob, thanks... I just was making a bad joke because of the Shell Beach stuff Deno was posting... Have a nice Sunday! |
Wow, did you say "Shell Beach".... |
Yes, because that is what Deno was calling it... Shell Beach is near Mulege. |
Honestly David.....it just hit me in the face that you have been calling this place of yours...."Island" and not beach. Okay...I just rewired my brain
to work properly. I'm taking a sign down there and place it off the highway.
Shell Island, this way----->
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David K
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You're a good man Deno! (I don't care what Dennis says) 
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David what other place in Baja have you name, besides Shell island and the Widomaker...
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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mcfez
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the Widomaker?
This is new to me.....what /where/how/who/when? Oh...and Thanks!
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The killer grade into the Mission Santa Maria site is dubbed the "widowmaker" as it is a terror (steep, & huge rocks), as many can testify to.
Barry
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"shell spit"
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Where is Shell Island? I've searched the forum and find several references to it but not where it is located.
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Sorry you have missed the numerous maps, directions, satellite images of it I have posted over the years!
Quite simply, it is the barrier island between Laguna Percebu and Bahia Santa Maria (~19-25 miles south of San Felipe). An access road is at Km. 26...
Some gringos that have moved into the area in recent years call it 'Shell Beach'... but there already is a Shell Beach in Baja (Punta Chivato) and it
is not an island like this one becomes during the highest lunar tides.
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dk: looking at the geomorphology, it appears that your beach is actually a spit. it is connected to land at south end, and is created by northward
transport of beach sand. it really doesn't fit the definition of barrier island, but it does appear to be what most of us call spits. if you want to
be correct, call it a spit.
"shell spit" has a certain ring to it. but as a layman, you could probably continue to call it an island and get away with it in most crowds.
the maps for this area call it Estero Percebu (Percebu Estuary), so perhaps you could call it Percebu Spit or Playa Percebu (what is spanish
translation of geographic term "spit?")
[Edited on 2-16-2011 by mtgoat666]
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It is connected to dry land in the center, not the end, during minimal tides (quarter moon phase)... If it were only connected on one far end, then I
would agree with you... There is a lagoon (or estero) entrance on the north (Percebu) end AND on the south (Santa Maria) end of the island.
During extreme tides it is totally surrounded by water, which covers the salt/ mud flats that seperate the beach/ barrier dune island from the
mainland of Baja when and where the sea water doesn't.
Look again at the maps I posted above to clearly see the inlets or island shape.
[Edited on 2-16-2011 by David K]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
It is connected to dry land in the center, not the end, during minimal tides (quarter moon phase)... If it were only connected on one far end, then I
would agree with you... There is a lagoon (or estero) entrance on the north (Percebu) end AND on the south (Santa Maria) end of the island.
During extreme tides it is totally surrounded by water, which covers the salt/ mud flats that seperate the beach/ barrier dune island from the
mainland of Baja when and where the sea water doesn't.
Look again at the maps I posted above to clearly see the inlets or island shape.
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spit or tidal island.
not barrier island.
dk: as the oficial baja spelling sherriff, you should be first to agree that your words should have precise and accurate meanings.
yes we can!@
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---------actually "Shell Island" is most probably a "barrier bar" as defined in LOBECK'S GEOMORPHOLOGY. Lobeck does not use the term "barrier Island",
even tho it may be appropriate at high tide in this case.
As DK has pointed out, "Shell Island" does not reflect the characteristics of a "spit" (sand spit) despite the claims of one GOAT within this thread.
A "spit" is an extension of a pre-existing landform, and would be attached to land at the upstream end (no inlet)------this is not the case with
"Shell Island".
Definitely a "barrier bar" from the pictures, as any amatuer Geomophographer could see. (pardon the spelling errors)
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Thanks Barry... I would rather go to a BAR, any day!!!
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geology an geography circa 1939
Barry/DK:
Lobeck? never read that one
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
Barry/DK:
Lobeck? never read that one |
You should, Goat. Very alluminating, and well written. The newer Geomorphology texts are somewhat more superficial in their treatment of Land
Forms------Lobeck's was, and still is, the standard by which all other Geomorph books are judged.
As for it's publication date (1939), land forms have not changed in 70 years, tho the interpretation of same has evolved into something quite strange.
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