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bajacalifornian
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I have contacted one of the main shoes for aircraft recovery in the Baja. Hoping this friend will be here for a visit.
After one million pages of paperwork, wings are removed and laid aside the fuselage after it is lifted onto a flatbed. Access is convenient. The
whole goes North for repair.
American by birth, Mexican by choice.
Signature addendum: Danish physicist — Niels Bohr — who said, “The opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth.
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Skeet/Loreto
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Dave Deal use to do a great Job of recovery. I wish whoever gets the job "Good Luck"
Anybody on the Board that has any Photos or Memory of the Twin Engine Cessna buried in the Water and Mud off of the end of the Runway at Pt. Chivato.
The last I was there on An Aircraft Recovery of a Cessna 210 you could still see the outline of it in about 25 Feet.
Would be interesting if some of the divers around Mulege would go down and take a look and inspect it.
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Mulege Jim>
My bigest problem was getting the Aircraft out of 7 feet of Mud and Water. |
Shouldn't have been a problem for a young, strong, witty guy in his prime, like you. 
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motoged
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Iwas the Adjuster on the Dc 8 japan Airliner that went into SF Bay on Nov. 22 I968 with 187 passengers on Board and No Injuries.
The Pilot committed Hari Kari 10 years later to the date of the Accident. .... |
Skeet ,
We might take some serious pokes at you, but no one can deny you appear to have an interesting life full of great stories and experiences...
Don't believe everything you think....
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mulegejim
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Mulege Jim>
Iwas the Adjuster on the Dc 8 japan Airliner that went into SF Bay on Nov. 22 I968 with 187 passengers on Board and No Injuries.
The Pilot committed Hari Kari 10 years later to the date of the Accident. He dialed in a 1,000 Ft/ error on his Altimeter Settings.
My bigest problem was getting the Aircraft out of 7 feet of Mud and Water. |
What's amazing about that one is the wheels were down. You were the adjuster - what a small world. Jim
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Skeet/Loreto
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Jim:
zI had just been hired by Associated Aviations Underwriters as the Pacific Northwest Claims Manager with an office on the 7th Floor of the Alcoa
building.
shortly after the acciden General Sweitzer and Ed Griffith arrived from La and since I was new boy and less experienced in Airline Claims i was
appointed to the Job of Salvage.
The Aircraft had landed with the Wheels down in 7 feet of Mud and water just short of the Runwasy which had a ramp down to the Waters edge of the Bay.
At that time we did not have Airbags, we could not pull the Aircraft forward.
There were little japanese people running around with smal hand Hel Computers or something.
I was requested to hire the salvage people and proceed. I hired Vaughn Lamb and his partner and the Japanese wanted all the Skins inspected on the
bottom of the Aircraft Took two days.
In the mean time I found that there was nothing set up ti Lift an Aircraft upward, Ended up getting Douglas to remove top shins and place a strut on
the Spar of each Wing.
Then brought over a large Crane and lifted the Plane up and floated the Barge under the wheels and pulled it up to the Runway Ramp!!
This Aircraft was back in service in one year..
I only stayed with Associated about 2 years as I did not like working in a Town where Nobody Smiled,
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mulegejim
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"I only stayed with Associated about 2 years as I did not like working in a Town where Nobody Smiled"
Skeet, you must not have run into any of the San Francisco firemen as they are a fun bunch of guys - got to know many of them over my many years as a
Los Angeles fireman. Have had some great times in that town with them. Jim
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Skeet/Loreto
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Yeah Jim> There was a group of Fireman fro Long Beach who were the first settlers of Coyote Bay down at Conception
They had the only House up on the Hill, I think it is still there.
In San Francisco it was going from the "Flower Children" to the Dopers. Carol Doda was going by the wayside and all the Nuts were coming in. You Know
like "Dykes on Bikes;
SF was to me at one time a Great Town { In the 50"s}.
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rhintransit
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apparently the decision was to drag the thing out of the water. Loreto's finest were not allowing spectators any closer. I hope this distant shot
will post.
reality\'s never been of much use out here...
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Skeet/Loreto
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Thanks for the Long range Photo. I appreciate it. That is the way I would have done it.
It will be interesting to see if this was a Stolen Aircraft. heard any rumors?
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MrBillM
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ANOTHER Skeeting Experience ?
Sayeth Skeet:
"Iwas the Adjuster on the Dc 8 japan Airliner that went into SF Bay on Nov. 22 I968 with 187 passengers on Board and No Injuries.
The Pilot committed Hari Kari 10 years later to the date of the Accident. He dialed in a 1,000 Ft/ error on his Altimeter Settings.
My bigest problem was getting the Aircraft out of 7 feet of Mud and Water".
WHAT ? You were short of Hot Air that day ?
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Skeet/Loreto
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No Bill Just the Truth and noting but the Truth! Read my Post on the Salvage Efforts
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capt. mike
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i dunno....
| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
So Mike - what will they have to do to get that out of there and in the air? |
tug and crane maybe?
it will be a total though due to sea water intrusion but fed law is the responsible party [read owner] has to remove it from the country.
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Skeet/Loreto
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If things are done properly that aircraft will be transported back to the Builder and compleley disassembled.
Salt water and especially Cortez Salt Water can do damage if not cleaned Properly.
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MrBillM
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NO Scheisse, Skeet ?
"Salt water and especially Cortez Salt Water can do damage if not cleaned Properly".
REALLY ?
I'll bet that comes as a HUGE surprise to a LOT of people here.
Who Woulda Thunk ?
Salt Water CAN do damage. WOW !
I'd say that Skeet should be working for the Government writing PSAs, but I'm sure that has appeared somewhere on his resume of 1001 (and more)
occupations.
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Insurance may not cover such a mess if its pilot error that could have been avoided. Wish them luck
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MrBillM
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OOPS !
IF it's Pilot ERROR, it can ALWAYS be Avoided.
And, while I have no idea what the various Insurance practices or regulations are, roughly half of aviation accidents ARE ruled Pilot-error with a
substantial MAJORITY of accidents being "human" error or sabotage.
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capt. mike
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you have no idea what you are talking about
| Quote: | Originally posted by slimshady
Insurance may not cover such a mess if its pilot error that could have been avoided. Wish them luck |
hull coverage has no relationship to pilot error.
in fact it is one of the reasons you get it.
claim denial has more to do with other FAA compliance issues regards the planes operating certificate.
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805gregg
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I'll bet the cartels are inroute to take possession. With of course the proper bribe money.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
SF was to me at one time a Great Town { In the 50"s}.
Skeet |
Just curious...
You ever catch Turk Murphy's Jazz Band at Earthquake McGoon's?
Barbarosa
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