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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajatripper
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Excellently written post Steve!
Progress happens... like paved roads... Instead of blaming the rightful owner for selling it to a developer, why don't all the people who want it left
alone put up the money and BUY it themselves? |
Funny you should mention the "rightful" owners, David. One of the items that received a bit of press when the "owner" was revealed some years ago was
how did the Aleman family come to acquire what many of the region's residents always assumed was federal property. The paper trail documenting the
acquisition was suspect at the time, if memory serves me. The same can be said of the some of the Rodriguez family's holdings in southern Baja--which
seem to be as a result of the presidential term of Abelardo Rodriguez (the guy who built the nice house overlooking "his" fish cannery in Sauzal, just
north of Ensenada). I would have no problem with the suggestion you make--provided that documentation for the ownership is legit. But, given the
people involved, figure the odds on that. |
I got the 'rightful owner' part from you Steve, I personally have no idea of ownership of the place:
"A recent court ruling favoring lifting the protected status of tracts of land bordering Balandra that are owned by Miguel Aleman Magnani is a
case-in-point. "
When a court rules on it, that to me makes the ownership legit (or rightful). |
A decision in Mexican court
can be bought, so they are not always legit.
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Jack Swords
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To put credit where credit is due: the second time the mushroom rock had fallen over, Abel Berkovich (Berkovich Boatyard) installed scaffolding,
winches, drilled out the rock, installed stainless rods and righted the rock. His efforts including photos were covered in the local press (Baja
Insider).
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this is a fretful situation indeed and such a beautiful place (though I have never personally been there). The idea of developing there hurts my soul,
much like when I drove past Salsipuedes and saw the huge billboard advertising the next "latest and greatest development plans" for there. After
spending many camping trips at Salsi and enjoying the graciousness of the owner Alicia and her family, it broke my heart to learn that she had sold.
Of course, now the billboard is gone, the family may or may not still be in residence, but the access to this magnificent spot is barred.
money talks and LOUDLY. hopefully the voices of the "environment nuts" and concerned citizens will speak louder.
"progress is the root of all evil" as quoted from one of my favorite musicals ~ "Lil' Abner" ( a fun play with a relevant and important message )
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"communities that don't grow die.
fact of life, healthy communities grow and expand"
Totally inapplicable here. Citizens of communities need places to recreate with their families, enjoy life. Their quality of life depends on places
like Bahia Balandra - as it has provided for generations. To destroy this area - so unique in its present state - and turn it into something else -
detracts from the actual community of La Paz. If La Paz NEEDS to grow and expand to be "healthy" (doubtful concept), then let the town of La Paz do
that. We all know now, that SPRAWL is not a good thing. Keep the footprint small; conserve, preserve, cherish and protect natural resources - for a
"healthy" community. Power to the Pacenos.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
Balandra is THE most tranquil & beautiful cove I've ever seen, snorkeled in & explored around. What will it take for the
residents of La Paz to not allow some self-serving, money-hungry person/people to sell another piece of it's soul & it's
residents heritage? I'm adding this to my list of concerns/issues for Esthela Ponce! |
well, many nomads are examples of the problem. look at all the nomads living in waterfront houses -- prior to those houses, i am sure their beaches
were accessible too!
it's a common theme. people develop an area, then want to ban any further development. |
Very well said Goat. It's like I'm here on my private little beach or cove, now let's stop all developments. Kind of hypocritical. Pretty soon that
region will look like Ensenada.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by luv2fish
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
Balandra is THE most tranquil & beautiful cove I've ever seen, snorkeled in & explored around. What will it take for the
residents of La Paz to not allow some self-serving, money-hungry person/people to sell another piece of it's soul & it's
residents heritage? I'm adding this to my list of concerns/issues for Esthela Ponce! |
well, many nomads are examples of the problem. look at all the nomads living in waterfront houses -- prior to those houses, i am sure their beaches
were accessible too!
it's a common theme. people develop an area, then want to ban any further development. |
Very well said Goat. It's like I'm here on my private little beach or cove, now let's stop all developments. Kind of hypocritical. Pretty soon that
region will look like Ensenada. |
In the words of Mrs. Palin, "Drill baby drill"
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Heather
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My girls love Balandra...the "beach with no waves", as they call it!
The last couple of years we were there we had to leave early cause the bobos/no-see-ums came out as soon as the sun started to set, and were a real
pain.
That area is pretty isolated, but one of my husband's tios has a ranch out that way. I forget what the name is (San Fernando?), but it's a beautiful
place. Great big house, beautiful corrals for a wide assortment of animals; birds, goats, horses, etc., and a hill to climb with a view to die for!
I couldn't tell you who the land-owner is, or how Tio Juan got the place (political involvement?), but do think there is an American owner involved
somewhere. It's always nice to visit, but I sure hope development doesn't set in!
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Eli
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Bajatripper, Great pictures and much food for thought provoked by this thread. I for one acknowledge the uniqueness of Balandera, and do hope that the
people of La Paz who wish to preserve it as is get their way.
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I hope that Balandra gets to stay as it is. I spent time there over Christmas, and it was gorgeous!
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Balandra is my second favorite spot in all of Baja.
It is simply heavenly, a sweet quiet little bay especially frequented by many Mexican families with children.
The Rock:
The Rock from a distance (look closely):
nena
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
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Natalie Ann
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The view:
nena
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
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Natalie Ann
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And the water is always clear and beautiful.
Most of it is quite shallow, so a great safe place for kids.
nena
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
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Thanks for the fantastic photos Nena!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Natalie Ann
Balandra is my second favorite spot in all of Baja.
It is simply heavenly, a sweet quiet little bay especially frequented by many Mexican families with children.
The Rock:
The Rock from a distance (look closely):
nena |
Are Mexicans allowed on this beach ?? Imho there seems to exist a certain amount of segregation in Baja, and I think that this segregation is more
prevalent south of 28°N which divides Baja Sur and Baja california. We want Mexico without the Mexicans, kind of like developing Hawaii while
excluding the Hawaiians or Alaska for that matter. Again IMHO
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Luv2fish,
This beach is predominately populated by Mexican families from La Paz. I don't see the pix here, but when I go, my little gringas are the only ones
around! They always have a blast as they are generally accompanied by 10-12 of their Pacena cousins!
My ex-water safety instructor courses come in real handy at this beach, too, as I've given "classes" to many a young family member here. My 20 and 23
year-old step-sons are pretty good swimmers after my classes! I think there are a couple of 5 and 6 year old sobrinos/as thay will get some classes
this summer! Salud
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Every time the vote was recounted, Bush won... |
Sorry, but just simply isn't true. I could go into details, but experience has taught me a long time ago that that would be a real waste of Internet
space. But I respect your right to deceive yourself and will fight to the death defending it!
Ha, I'm hijacking my own thread. Enough said--by me, at least--on the subject.
[Edited on 5-18-2011 by Bajatripper]
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one of the best beaches you can drive right up to
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Nice images, Nena.
You waiting for the opportunity and opened the vault.
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Eli
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Wonderful pictures Nena, hope that place stays that way.
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Natalie Ann
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As I said before, it is a wonderful bit of heaven.
It is quite sheltered so that no big waves and very little wind (unlike Tecolote - a great beach but it does catch the wind).
Besides its natural beauty, one of the reasons I love it is because of the predominance of Mexican families. Lots of kids dashing around, splashing
in the water, wading waaaaay out and still having their heads well above the surface. Often the families bring tables and grills and boxes of food to
enjoy.... and almost always I've been invited to join these families for the feast. (I learned to take food contributions after my first visit
there.) It is very safe.
What a shame it will be should this pristine spot become a tourista hang-out.
nena
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