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krafty
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once again, if you are involved with drugs or cartels you take your life in your hands. We live SAFELY in Rosarito and have had not a problem
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Bajahowodd
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It's an absolute shame that Rosarito has come to this. I'm guessing that location, near the border, as well as, at least a few years back, a great
deal of tourists gave a certain amount of cover to the bad guys.
That said, with reference to the goat, there still are many US ex-pats and retirees who make their home in the area part or full time. In a certain
respect, it doesn't help those folks one iota to trash Rosarito.
I look at it as a chicken/ egg thing. If, all of a sudden, Rosarito returned to its prior glory days of tourists, what would the bad guys do? Move on?
I dunno.
Although I personally feel totally safe in Ensenada, I still feel a certain amount of pain that the local tourist industry is so moribund. It used to
be almost like Mardi Gras on Lopez Mateos certain times of the year.
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DENNIS
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Rosarito self-corrupted. Nothing has changed.
Can't imagine what it would be like for me if I knew that those in charge of my safety were my predatory enemy.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jenny.navarrette
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PLAYAS DE ROSARITO.- Un hombre de aproximadamente 40 años de edad fue localizado muerto en las inmediaciones de la delegación Plan Libertador.
El cuerpo que hasta el momento no ha sido identificado fue ubicado atrás de un centro comercial en la calle José Hipólito, de la colonia Independencia
debido a una denuncia anónima que se realizó al C4 durante la madrugada.
El hombre estaba semidesnudo, con huellas de tortura y tenía un narcomensaje que decía:
Por andar chapulineando atte. Los Tigres.
Al lugar arribaron elementos municipales quienes notificaron a agentes periciales los cuales se encargaron de realizar las indagatorias
correspondientes para que el Servicio Médico Forense se hiciera cargo del cuerpo.
Link to story.
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It says the semi-naked body of an unidentified man who was tortured and killed was found behind a shopping center in Rosarito today. He had a narco
message on his body: "Por andar chapulineando atte. Los Tigres."
That translates literally as "For being a grasshopper. The Tigers."
What it really means is that he was killed for changing sides. |
Yes, ARROWHEAD!!!!!!!!!!
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Bajahowodd
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Just make out a will or better yet a living trust, and don't sit near any rich Mexicans at a restautant.
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krafty
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Thank you Bajahowodd, you are so right-we are here year round and it pains me to hear everyone trashing Rosarito.And Dennis, you are being harsh with
your predatory enemy comment. You don't much like where you live either, as I have gathered from several of your posts, or at least don't feel that
safe.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by krafty
Thank you Bajahowodd, you are so right-we are here year round and it pains me to hear everyone trashing Rosarito.And Dennis, you are being harsh with
your predatory enemy comment. You don't much like where you live either, as I have gathered from several of your posts, or at least don't feel that
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Well...thank you, Krafty, for your evaluation of my evaluations.
I like very much where I live....I just don't like where I live is.........in the middle of a war zone. That will be hard to fathom, but it makes
sense to me.
Don't you start scolding me now. I like you and your posts...a lot. I hope we can keep it that way.
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Von
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Scary place to be at lol~ Rosarito Its like going to any beach now a days. You
need to go 500 miles south to feel the real Rosarito feling of the 60's. Rosarito is to Modern with an applebees lol! Waltmart? Come on~
READY SET.....................
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Von
Scary place to be at lol~ Rosarito Its like going to any beach now a days. You
need to go 500 miles south to feel the real Rosarito feling of the 60's. Rosarito is to Modern with an applebees lol! Waltmart? Come on~
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60's? I would be happy with 1980 here again when there were more horses than cars on the main dirt street running through Rosarito.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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jenny.navarrette
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| Quote: | Originally posted by krafty
Thank you Bajahowodd, you are so right-we are here year round and it pains me to hear everyone trashing Rosarito. |
Prefectly understandable. If I bought an overpriced house in Rosarito and then learned I could not sell it for anything near what I paid for it
because of the crime, it would pain me too.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jenny.navarrette
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PLAYAS DE ROSARITO.- Un hombre de aproximadamente 40 años de edad fue localizado muerto en las inmediaciones de la delegación Plan Libertador.
El cuerpo que hasta el momento no ha sido identificado fue ubicado atrás de un centro comercial en la calle José Hipólito, de la colonia Independencia
debido a una denuncia anónima que se realizó al C4 durante la madrugada.
El hombre estaba semidesnudo, con huellas de tortura y tenía un narcomensaje que decía:
Por andar chapulineando atte. Los Tigres.
Al lugar arribaron elementos municipales quienes notificaron a agentes periciales los cuales se encargaron de realizar las indagatorias
correspondientes para que el Servicio Médico Forense se hiciera cargo del cuerpo.
Link to story.
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It says the semi-naked body of an unidentified man who was tortured and killed was found behind a shopping center in Rosarito today. He had a narco
message on his body: "Por andar chapulineando atte. Los Tigres."
That translates literally as "For being a grasshopper. The Tigers."
What it really means is that he was killed for changing sides. |
I found the link for that story and it has a disturbing last line. I don't recall three Rosarito Policeman and a civilian being beheaded, ever.
http://www.rosaritoenlanoticia.info/2011/06/encuentran-hombr...
"Cabe mencionar que por ese mismo rumbo fueron encontrados tres policías decapitados y un civil."
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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jenny.navarrette
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
60's? I would be happy with 1980 here again when there were more horses than cars on the main dirt street running through Rosarito.
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Don't worry, Woooosh, as Krafty says, as long as you are not involved in drugs or cartels, you are safe in Rosarito.
Tell us about that guy, Jay, who was murdered around the corner for 1,000 pesos. What drugs were he selling? Or the guy who was shot dead while
jogging in front of your house last year. What cartel was he in? What about the American woman who had her car jacked at gunpoint if front of Rene's
last year? I forget, was she dealing crack or mota at the Flying Samaritans monthly meetings?
And what about last year when that American man in La Salina who retired to Baja and had his brains blown out a month later by two construction
workers who did some work on his retirement home? Was he with El Teo or the Sonoran cartels? I forget?
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bajabound2005
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just spent 2 fabulous days in rosarito without incident of any kind....btw the folclorico show at the rosarito beach hotel is INCREDIBLE!
Friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel.
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jenny.navarrette
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabound2005
just spent 2 fabulous days in rosarito without incident of any kind....btw the folclorico show at the rosarito beach hotel is INCREDIBLE!
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I just took 5 bullets out of a 6-shot revolver, spun the cyclinder, put it to my head and pulled the trigger without incident. I don't care what
anybody says about the odds. I can tell you absolutely from my own personal experience that playing Russian Roulette is perfectly safe. Don't let any
of those naysayers tell you any different, and don't beleive a word of what you read about Russian Roulette in the newspapers. It is just a gross
exageration to keep people from enjoying playing Russian Roulette.
Besides everybody knows that the only people who blow their brains out playing Russian Roulette are drug dealers and cartel members. Ordinary people
who mind their own business, don't dress extravagantly nor drive fancy cars and are aware of their surroundings can play Russian Roulette safely.
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krafty
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Oh I am scared now...Dennis no worries-love your posts-I just go on livin my life with mi familia-our son is in the service and he loves it here and
tells his bosses, tough chit, I am visiting my family-my daughter as well. There was a guy in SD 2 days ago, car stopped, he leaned over to HELP them,
and they shot him. Tell me where there may be justice, or perhaps we are born and have a number/.day on us-our fate?
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JoeJustJoe
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It's nice to see Jenny and Woooosh teaming up to scare the masses.
So the "grasshopper" was killed. So what? It's obvious he was involved with the drug cartels and this was an employer employee dispute of some kind?
Did you see the picture in the El Mexicano?
http://www.el-mexicano.com.mx/informacion/noticias/1/22/poli...
Visiting Rosarito Beach isn't like playing Russian Roulette by taking 5 bullets out of a 6-shot revolver and then spinning the cylinder. Isn't it
more like playing the game with a 100,000 shot revolver and then taking out 99,993 bullets and then putting the gun to your head? I like those odds,
and if your not involved with illicit actives you could probably even take out more bullets and reduce your odds even more of being shot or killed in
Mexico.
That said, I personally would like to see the next person that asks the question," is Mexico safe?" Being hung from some Mexican bridge when they go
actually visit Mexico. That's because I'm tired or hearing the loaded question. But hey I also understand the media reports scare people who don't
actually live in Mexico or visit there.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
It's nice to see Jenny and Woooosh teaming up to scare the masses.
So the "grasshopper" was killed. So what? It's obvious he was involved with the drug cartels and this was an employer employee dispute of some kind?
Did you see the picture in the El Mexicano?
http://www.el-mexicano.com.mx/informacion/noticias/1/22/poli...
Visiting Rosarito Beach isn't like playing Russian Roulette by taking 5 bullets out of a 6-shot revolver and then spinning the cylinder. Isn't it
more like playing the game with a 100,000 shot revolver and then taking out 99,993 bullets and then putting the gun to your head? I like those odds,
and if your not involved with illicit actives you could probably even take out more bullets and reduce your odds even more of being shot or killed in
Mexico.
That said, I personally would like to see the next person that asks the question," is Mexico safe?" Being hung from some Mexican bridge when they go
actually visit Mexico. That's because I'm tired or hearing the loaded question. But hey I also understand the media reports scare people who don't
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You are correct. Sorry for the hijack. I was giving good trip info for a while, but fell off the wagon when I saw the "3 Rosarito Beach policeman
beheaded" in the link. I should have started a new thread if I thought that was important.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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bajatravelergeorge
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Bad things can happen anywhere. If you really worry about it happinging to you, barracade yourself in your house and never take a chance coming out to
do anything. Heck, you can even shop for food online now and have it delivered to your door. Be carful though, the delivery person might want to kill,
rob, or rape you.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajatravelergeorge
Bad things can happen anywhere. If you really worry about it happinging to you, barracade yourself in your house and never take a chance coming out to
do anything. Heck, you can even shop for food online now and have it delivered to your door. Be carful though, the delivery person might want to kill,
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Ok then- I'll continue the hijack... Mexicans in Rosarito don't leave the house without good reason, they do what you are saying- barricading
themselves safely inside their homes and only peeking out the windows. It's been this way for about four years here. We have families living nearby
and have never, ever seen the children outside. We have adult children living with their parents nearby and even the adult kids are not allowed
outside for fear of being misidentified and killed. No one retires to Mexico to hide indoors, but in Baja Norte it is better to hide indoors than be
targeted as a gringo with money easy for the taking. Even the local businesses keep their door locked during business hours for fear of the owner
being kidnapped. It's bad out there right now and with 100% of the Rosarito police accused of working with the cartels (per Zeta magazine) there in
no to call besides the military if you need help. Paranoid? not really- just reacting to reality like the locals are.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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