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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tjBill
Another advantage to Sentri, fewer line cutters. More civilized drivers. |
My sister tells me that there is another advantage to having a Sentri. When she and her SO returned from Europe, they did not have to go through
regular customs. I guess they are good for more than returning from Mexico---we have not looked into them, but may do so.
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David K
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While I only recently added a Nomad sticker (got from Doug at the Mike Younghusband slide show)... it (and all my stickers) is on the back widow and
not visible with my truck loaded with camping gear.
As for proper behavior in Mexico, I have been going since I was 16 on my own... and have never had an issue with any law enforcement and I also have
enough good manners to not do some of the things that are just mean and unkind.
We were in line at Tecate on Tuesday the 5th, for less than an hour starting at 4:28pm.
It is the miltary searching selected vehicles just before they cross the border into the U.S. at Tecate, not police... This is twice now we have seen
the new military 'exit checkpoint' running there.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
While I only recently added a Nomad sticker (got from Doug at the Mike Younghusband slide show)... it (and all my stickers) is on the back widow and
not visible with my truck loaded with camping gear.
As for proper behavior in Mexico, I have been going since I was 16 on my own... and have never had an issue with any law enforcement and I also have
enough good manners to not do some of the things that are just mean and unkind.
We were in line at Tecate on Tuesday the 5th, for less than an hour starting at 4:28pm.
It is the miltary searching selected vehicles just before they cross the border into the U.S. at Tecate, not police... This is twice now we have seen
the new military 'exit checkpoint' running there. |
Chill! Did someone accuse you? I don't think so---gees, get past the paranoia. You are still the star Baja Nomad Boy Scout. We very plainly said
it was not a Toyota PU involved.
Yes, the military are there right before the crossing, but the vehicles were taken out of line by the local police well before where the military is
located. Since the police cannot see all that is happening, we suspect someone is talking.
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tjBill
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
| Quote: | Originally posted by tjBill
Another advantage to Sentri, fewer line cutters. More civilized drivers. |
My sister tells me that there is another advantage to having a Sentri. When she and her SO returned from Europe, they did not have to go through
regular customs. I guess they are good for more than returning from Mexico---we have not looked into them, but may do so. |
I will try that on my trip to the Caribbean. Sometimes the airport customs line can be one hour. Almost missed a connecting flight in Houston.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
| Quote: | Originally posted by tjBill
Another advantage to Sentri, fewer line cutters. More civilized drivers. |
My sister tells me that there is another advantage to having a Sentri. When she and her SO returned from Europe, they did not have to go through
regular customs. I guess they are good for more than returning from Mexico---we have not looked into them, but may do so. |
I will try that on my trip to the Caribbean. Sometimes the airport customs line can be one hour. Almost missed a connecting flight in Houston.
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I am curious to hear from others about this.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
We were in line at Tecate on Tuesday the 5th, for less than an hour starting at 4:28pm.
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are you sure is wasn't 4:27 PM?
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With your sentri now you get finger printed by customs again if you request to get the Global Entry stamps on your passport for quicker admit back
into USA upon your return from your travels. This may be what your talking about. Now, I have seen people that see the other lane going up the hill
open at Tecate thinking they can use that lane and Bam find out no go but too late. So, they beg for cut in or back down the hill. It has been a
while since I used Tecate border to exit, so this may not be the case now. Take Care & Travel Safe---- "No Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN"
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
We were in line at Tecate on Tuesday the 5th, for less than an hour starting at 4:28pm.
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are you sure is wasn't 4:27 PM? |
MtGoat, I am quite sure... you see, facts are important to people like me... We don't bite the 'hope and change' hook on 'feelings'.
Yes, I know it wasn't me DT, you are so quick to make fun of any Nomad, but you wished it was a Toyota pickup (besides yours)... and said so. 
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It was me......DENNIS pushed me into the line
I actually cut into line once upon a time in Mexicali. .....just came in from a side street into the Avenue of the Americans....and geeze
wheeze...cars were honking their horns madly and drivers were delivering loads to their diapers. I just edged right on in regardless....cursing back
at these fools.......I had no idea at the time that I was bumping in line, for that was my first time exiting Baja. Lucky to be alive!
Oh...goat...this happened at 4:26 p.m.
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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OK, I’ll fess up, however you also get to hear the full story. As we live more or less full time in Loreto, we travel back and forth to the US about
6 – 8 times a year. I don’t so much mind the drive, I actually like the solitude and beauty of the Baja peninsula, but I absolutely dread the lengthy
(and getting worse) wait to cross the border. Our actual time at the booth is about 30 seconds after waiting two hours or more! So on this trip
North we decided to heed the advice of several Nomads and drive the little extra distance and cross at Tecate instead of our usual SY or Otay
crossing. Since we have never done this before, we were navigating through Tecate carefully watching for the “Border Crossing” signs. Actually the
signage was pretty good and we had no trouble finding our way. We finally came to the line leading up the hill to the border and saw a “Border
Crossing” sign indicating that we should turn left, which we did and merged in front of a white car with CA plates. I guess it is true that we “cut
in line” as there were 4 or 5 cars in line around the corner from where we made the left turn. The young girl driving the white car stood on her horn
for about five minutes as if this was a life or death situation. About 40 minutes later, at the top of the hill, a Mexican cop approaches, talks to
the white car a minute then comes up to our car and tells us the since we cut in line we would have to return to the end of the line. He was very
polite and we told him our story about following the signs, but he said, “…his superior says we must go to the end of the line.” In fairness, I
offered to wait here for 10 – 15 cars to go by, but that was not acceptable and we did pull out of line and go to the end of the line. So the hour –
fifteen minute wait turned out to be two hours for us. So yes, we were “guilty” of cutting in line, although unintentionally. I’ve certainly seen
much more blatant line cutting at both SY and Otay every time we cross there. I think it was very petty for this young girl to actually call 066 and
have us pulled out of line. BTW, while we were waiting in line (for the second time) we witnessed two other vehicles make the same mistake we did
(follow the signs) and get in line ahead of a few other cars, but no one felt compelled to call the police and “have justice served.” OK, now I know,
and overall, it was more relaxing crossing at Tecate than the other alternatives. Now you know who the guilty party is and the full story, thanks
Diane for giving it the press it deserved.
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White Chevy Silverado....at 1412 1 hour wait...
But damn still wasn't me...
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nchampion----We seriously did not expect anyone to speak up which is why we did not say what the vehicle was. Our purpose for this was just a
warning to others as to what can happen and we have seen it happen before. And yes, especially the first time it can be a little confusing. Once
you know where that turn is, you immediately notice if the cars are lined up along that road. VERY easy to do what you did.
Glad you told how it happened as a warning to others. Before making that turn, check for a line along the highway. This is just speculation, but
since the other two cars were pulled out near where it happened to you, I wonder if they wait until the car is there because of the access to the dirt
road back to the highway.
We do think that it must be people reporting others because we saw two other cars also pulled out near the top of the hill --- they probably did the
same thing.
But as you said, it is still a far more relaxing crossing even with the extra wait---it is nothing like the insanity that takes place at the Tijuana
crossing.
DK---we don't own a Toyota PU.
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David K
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You mean 'anymore'... ?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ncampion
OK, I’ll fess up, however you also get to hear the full story. As we live more or less full time in Loreto, we travel back and forth to the US about
6 – 8 times a year. I don’t so much mind the drive, I actually like the solitude and beauty of the Baja peninsula, but I absolutely dread the lengthy
(and getting worse) wait to cross the border. Our actual time at the booth is about 30 seconds after waiting two hours or more! So on this trip
North we decided to heed the advice of several Nomads and drive the little extra distance and cross at Tecate instead of our usual SY or Otay
crossing. Since we have never done this before, we were navigating through Tecate carefully watching for the “Border Crossing” signs. Actually the
signage was pretty good and we had no trouble finding our way. We finally came to the line leading up the hill to the border and saw a “Border
Crossing” sign indicating that we should turn left, which we did and merged in front of a white car with CA plates. I guess it is true that we “cut
in line” as there were 4 or 5 cars in line around the corner from where we made the left turn. The young girl driving the white car stood on her horn
for about five minutes as if this was a life or death situation. About 40 minutes later, at the top of the hill, a Mexican cop approaches, talks to
the white car a minute then comes up to our car and tells us the since we cut in line we would have to return to the end of the line. He was very
polite and we told him our story about following the signs, but he said, “…his superior says we must go to the end of the line.” In fairness, I
offered to wait here for 10 – 15 cars to go by, but that was not acceptable and we did pull out of line and go to the end of the line. So the hour –
fifteen minute wait turned out to be two hours for us. So yes, we were “guilty” of cutting in line, although unintentionally. I’ve certainly seen
much more blatant line cutting at both SY and Otay every time we cross there. I think it was very petty for this young girl to actually call 066 and
have us pulled out of line. BTW, while we were waiting in line (for the second time) we witnessed two other vehicles make the same mistake we did
(follow the signs) and get in line ahead of a few other cars, but no one felt compelled to call the police and “have justice served.” OK, now I know,
and overall, it was more relaxing crossing at Tecate than the other alternatives. Now you know who the guilty party is and the full story, thanks
Diane for giving it the press it deserved. |
so after you knew you were wrong you did not behave properly until told to do so by a cop. you don't respond to shaming, you only respond to govt
authority.
sounds like you got what you deserved.
don't try to point fingers at the victim.
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bajaguy
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SENTRI
If I crossed 6 - 8 times a year, I would definately get the SENTRI.....very worth every penny.
SENTRI costs
$122.25 per person x 2 = $244.50
$42.00 vehicle fee
$286.50 total cost
$286.50 divided by 5 (SENTRI is good for 5 years) = $57.30 yr
$57.30 yearly cost divided by 6 (# of crossings per year) = $9.55.............
Wait in line or pay $9.55 for a 15 minute crossing......Priceless
[Edited on 7-7-2011 by bajaguy]
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ncampion
OK, I’ll fess up, however you also get to hear the full story. As we live more or less full time in Loreto, we travel back and forth to the US about
6 – 8 times a year. I don’t so much mind the drive, I actually like the solitude and beauty of the Baja peninsula, but I absolutely dread the lengthy
(and getting worse) wait to cross the border. Our actual time at the booth is about 30 seconds after waiting two hours or more! So on this trip
North we decided to heed the advice of several Nomads and drive the little extra distance and cross at Tecate instead of our usual SY or Otay
crossing. Since we have never done this before, we were navigating through Tecate carefully watching for the “Border Crossing” signs. Actually the
signage was pretty good and we had no trouble finding our way. We finally came to the line leading up the hill to the border and saw a “Border
Crossing” sign indicating that we should turn left, which we did and merged in front of a white car with CA plates. I guess it is true that we “cut
in line” as there were 4 or 5 cars in line around the corner from where we made the left turn. The young girl driving the white car stood on her horn
for about five minutes as if this was a life or death situation. About 40 minutes later, at the top of the hill, a Mexican cop approaches, talks to
the white car a minute then comes up to our car and tells us the since we cut in line we would have to return to the end of the line. He was very
polite and we told him our story about following the signs, but he said, “…his superior says we must go to the end of the line.” In fairness, I
offered to wait here for 10 – 15 cars to go by, but that was not acceptable and we did pull out of line and go to the end of the line. So the hour –
fifteen minute wait turned out to be two hours for us. So yes, we were “guilty” of cutting in line, although unintentionally. I’ve certainly seen
much more blatant line cutting at both SY and Otay every time we cross there. I think it was very petty for this young girl to actually call 066 and
have us pulled out of line. BTW, while we were waiting in line (for the second time) we witnessed two other vehicles make the same mistake we did
(follow the signs) and get in line ahead of a few other cars, but no one felt compelled to call the police and “have justice served.” OK, now I know,
and overall, it was more relaxing crossing at Tecate than the other alternatives. Now you know who the guilty party is and the full story, thanks
Diane for giving it the press it deserved. |
Sorry you went through this 'torture' on Nomad after the Tecate screw-up! Some just can't wait to point fingers and act like their way is the only
way... You are not the first to follow the signs thinking that left turn leads into its own lane, I am sure. Now, you know to head out towards
Mexicali if the line is longer than that intersection. At least you fess up to being the one...
Good to see you at Baja Cactus, by-the-way!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
I actually cut into line once upon a time in Mexicali. ....and geeze wheeze...cars were honking their horns madly and drivers were delivering loads to
their diapers. I just edged right on in regardless....cursing back at these fools.......I had no idea at the time that I was bumping in line,
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"i had no idea..." sayeth mcpez.
mcpez: didn't the honking clue you in??????????
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Oh...goat...this happened at 4:26 p.m. |
i am glad that you and DK are keeping travelogue diaries with ± 1 minute precision. do you calibrate your watch to time.gov? does dk know that his
tax dollars pay for time.gov?
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ncampion
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
If I crossed 6 - 8 times a year, I would definately get the SENTRI.....very worth every penny.
SENTRI costs
$122.25 per person x 2 = $144.50
$42.00 vehicle fee
$186.50 total cost
$186.50 divided by 5 (SENTRI is good for 5 years) = $37.30 yr
$37.30 yearly cost divided by 6 (# of crossings per year) = $6.21.............
Wait in line or pay $6.21 for a 15 minute crossing......Priceless |
Totally agree. Our problem is not with the cost, I would pay 10 times that, but it takes time including an appointment at the border and we are
usually only able to be in the US for a couple of weeks or so at a time. We hope to be able to get a pass in Sept. when we will be here for about a
month.
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ncampion
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
so after you knew you were wrong you did not behave properly until told to do so by a cop. you don't respond to shaming, you only respond to govt
authority.
sounds like you got what you deserved.
don't try to point fingers at the victim. |
WOW, hope you don't live in a glass house!!!
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They were just lucky.
| Quote: | Originally posted by ncampion
BTW, while we were waiting in line (for the second time) we witnessed two other vehicles make the same mistake we did (follow the signs) and get in
line ahead of a few other cars, but no one felt compelled to call the police |
I've had the exact thing happen. I think I even posted about it.
Those who regularly cross at Tecate don't tolerate cutting in line, period.
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