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[*] posted on 7-13-2011 at 05:29 PM
Bad spelling alert- OOOGA BOOOGA


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[*] posted on 7-13-2011 at 05:35 PM


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Bad spelling alert- OOOGA BOOOGA


By golly...I think you're right, Runner.

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[*] posted on 7-13-2011 at 06:43 PM
The Devil made me do it


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Bad spelling alert- OOOGA BOOOGA


By golly...I think you're right, Runner.

Good to see you.


Thanks Dennis
good to see you too
and thanks for the cheery response to a rather snitty post.
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[*] posted on 7-13-2011 at 06:56 PM


Try putting a hot pack on the area, as hot as you can stand it. Leave it for about 5 min and then replace it with a ice cold pack for 5 min. Do this a few times. It really can help with the pain.



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[*] posted on 7-13-2011 at 07:02 PM


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thanks for the cheery response to a rather snitty post.



It's the new me, Runner. You're welcome. :biggrin:
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[*] posted on 7-13-2011 at 07:12 PM
Yucca


Hi krafty, I think that the drops are available at most botanicas (Mexican health food stores), that's where we found them originally.

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[*] posted on 7-13-2011 at 07:26 PM


Smoke it.



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[*] posted on 7-13-2011 at 07:41 PM


Forget the home remedies and pain pills, you need surgery to repair it properly. Had the same problem a couple of years ago and had an out patient surgery called micro discsectomy (Google it). Problem solved, still riding my dirt bike at 65. Back surgery has come a long way in the last 10 years.
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[*] posted on 7-13-2011 at 09:31 PM


I used the stuff in the 70's and it didn't do any harm.:lol::lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 7-13-2011 at 11:14 PM
So Many Questions, My Head is Exploding!


Just kidding, guys.

OK, true history. If you know about me, you know that I like/love dogs, cats and my husband.

His knees and back were hurting and I did internet searches for natural remedies.

I found an answer "yucca dehisdresatada" (I may not be spelling this correctly).

I went to a "botanica" (natural food store) in Rosarito. They sold me a liquid drop for people with joint pain. After he got good results, I contacted the producer.

They invited us to come to their distribution center in Ensenada.

This place was the cleanest and best-organized facility that we have ever seen, and yes, I pulled out my trick of, "I need to go to the bathroom." I was personally escorted through the warehouse to the employee area.

This family company sells most of its product to Latin America, Europe and Asia; there is an American competitor that dominates the professional race horse market in the U.S.

Call them or send an email. They are wonderful people. The CEO (if I have the title correct) is the great grandson and a retired U.S. border control officer who decided to join the family business, and, by the way, adopted a white German Shepherd.

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[*] posted on 7-13-2011 at 11:42 PM
Dog Powder Dosage


I forgot to answer the question about dosage:

Less than a teaspoon each once a day for each of our dogs (all our dogs weigh over one hundred pounds).

The yucca powder reduces the smell, there are no flies and the caca left behind is dry and easy to pick up.




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[*] posted on 7-14-2011 at 01:42 AM


37 years ago I took five months away from work with a sore back that had also affected the sciatic nerve down the back of my left leg. Early on had a week in hospital. A specialist (surgeon) perscribed me one month strict bed rest.

That didn't work and afterwards couldn't even manage a one city block slow walk. Had seen two chiropracters in the meantime, one who bent my legs, the second sort of jumped on my back, a painful incident. I wasn't the best patient, skied Whistler before the strict bed rest with the help of prescribed valium. That bad conduct continued when the surgeon then prescribed hostipalization with traction, I'd go up and down the back staircase, six floors, to try to get some muscle tone, but still suffering pain. They would still bring me valium, but I decided not to take them.

After two and a half weeks of traction, I was no better and was about to sign myself out when the doctor showed up. Next day I saw him at his office and he tried for a full hour to try and persuede me to allow him to operate. No way I would, before my 3oth birthday, being still unmarried. He was probably the busiest orthopedic in the hospital, one of the most active in the city (Vancouver). But now into my third month off work, I went camping with large groups for the summer, and others did my lifting. I then saw another chiropracter, a man who was renowned in the area. Big X-rays taken of my neck and back. The Man finally saw me, gave my neck a twist one certain way then told me not to get into an auto accident and see him again in two days. I figuered out by the direction he twisted my neck that I should try to sleep excusively on my left side. On my next visit he checked me out and made no adjustment.

I was back at work in another month and six months later did a month-long ski trip, Sun Valley, Park City, Aspen and others, then back to Whistler. Got married that summer. Operation? Just appendix, nose and a knee scoped. If the top 12 vertabrae are straight the rest will follow suit eliminating sciatica and low back pain. At least that was how it was with me. I'll be 67 next week and my back is great. I gave up skiing when I retired to drive an RV south every winter, the tenth trip coming up.

Hope all goes well for you, DavidE. Many folks must live with pain, don't know how they do it. Hope you can find a way around that.
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[*] posted on 7-14-2011 at 08:18 AM


Dave, check U2U.



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[*] posted on 7-14-2011 at 08:34 AM


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Back in the late 70s I used to take my x to a clicinic in Nuevo Laredo they put D.M.S.O. in her buy a IV.and then sold it to her in pill form. She seamed to think it worked:yes:


Unreal....it's a solvent made from wood pulp. Don't know how that would work in the blood.


Its not as strange if you consider the following: Our hemoglobin is huge molecule which surrounds a porphyrin ring at its center...at the center of the porphyrin ring is one atom of Iron. In plants, chlorophyll is the dominant energy nexus---as hemoglobin is to us---the chlorophyll molecule has the exact same structure as hemoglobin, with the porphyrin ring inside---the ONLY difference is that chlorophyll has a Manganese atom instead of the iron atom....one atom difference!
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[*] posted on 7-14-2011 at 08:44 AM


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Its not as strange if you consider the following: Our hemoglobin is huge molecule which surrounds a porphyrin ring at its center...at the center of the porphyrin ring is one atom of Iron. In plants, chlorophyll is the dominant energy nexus---as hemoglobin is to us---the chlorophyll molecule has the exact same structure as hemoglobin, with the porphyrin ring inside---the ONLY difference is that chlorophyll has a Manganese atom instead of the iron atom....one atom difference!


Now....why didn't I think of that? :lol:
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[*] posted on 7-14-2011 at 08:52 AM


dave...go to the pharmacy across from el candil....ask for 100mg tramadol...take two...relax...it's saving my ass and i have the same thing you do...trust me on this.



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[*] posted on 7-14-2011 at 09:51 AM


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Forget the home remedies and pain pills, you need surgery to repair it properly. Had the same problem a couple of years ago and had an out patient surgery called micro discsectomy (Google it). Problem solved, still riding my dirt bike at 65. Back surgery has come a long way in the last 10 years.



I agree totaly I put up with the same symptons for 20 years . 4 years ago I went to a Dr. in San Diego and he checked me into the out patient clinic at 5:30 am and I was im my car at 11:am same day heading home to Ensenada. today i do most evertinng I want to do Physicaly and the best part I am pain free. T he operation was minimal intrusiue and recovery was short . The surgical procedure has come a long way.and to suffer like me and others have is just plain "DUMB".
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[*] posted on 7-14-2011 at 10:01 AM


Get ye North and to the proper medical specialist physician, please.



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[*] posted on 7-14-2011 at 10:25 AM
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Dear David E...
DMSO, the industrial solvent, was a breakthrough drug for transporting drugs through the skin. Today we have Trans dermal patches, such as the synthetic Heroin drug, Fentanyl.
DMSO, when applied, will carry whatever else is in the vicinity into your bloodstream, so be cautious. Have you exhausted the NSAID's? Naproxen Sodium is available right there in Mulege, and is a well-tolerated anti-imflamatory. If you have not tried that yet, hobble downtown today.
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[*] posted on 7-14-2011 at 10:51 AM


I had better explain things better...

At the moment I am taking 200 mg. Q.I.D of tramadol extended release (8-hours duration sold in Wal-Mart under the medi-mart label)

1000 mg. Tylenol QID (meaning four times a day).

200 mg. (BID twice a day) Nimensulide a cox-3 inhibiting NSAID much like celebrex.

15 mg. prednisone BID

THREE MONTHS IS WAY TOO LONG TO BE ON ALL THOSE MEDS. I fear for my kidneys and liver :-(

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I am able to walk without assistance as much as thirty feet, then I need to rest for a few minutes, minus the walker. With the walker I can go as long as 100-yards. But that is on a good day.

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It isn't totally the pain near the herniation nor the sciatica that seems to be the greatest bother, it is the incredible knotting of muscles in my back near the herniation that seem to tense like a coil spring and then start to ache if I press things too much such as walking too far.

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Like it or not, the "strongest" opiate controlled substance painkiller sold in Mexico is called TYLEX. It is 30 mg of codeine and 350 milligrams of tylenol. Over and over I tested 2 of them against 2 Tramadols, and the tramadol works significantly better. Farmacistas told me that medical doctors themselves have to administer anything stronger than Tylex. Dose by dose.

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Several years ago a neurosurgeon in the states told me after reviewing an MRI and CatScan "I wouldn't touch your spine for all the money in the world --- it would just make things worse". He is the one and only neurosurgeon available under my HMO and private surgery has been estimated to cost between fifty five and seventy three thousand dollars. Might as well be a trillion.

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Getting caught with any Class I estupificante means prison, and that would mean death for me without life-support cardiac medications.

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My miniscule measure, my problem seems to be diminishing. I am without pain for most of the time now (albeit with all those meds above), and if I could only get those back muscles to unknot and stay unknotted then maybe, just maybe I can make some real progress. What a pain it is to be in paradise and glued to an aluminum rack with wheels and handgrips.

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