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Curt63
Super Nomad
Posts: 1171
Registered: 3-28-2009
Location: San Diego, Ca.
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Mood: Fish tacos and Tecate
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My Bad.
My intention was to let people know that a road labeled as improved graded road is actually really tough and requires high clearance. There are a few
other concerns out there as well with very few people to help.
The wrong vehicle/ driver WILL tear an oil pan ( I've seen that... it aint pretty) or break shocks/ mounts.
In retrospect, I'm really sorry I even posted it.
Please accept my sincere apology.
Curt
No worries
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Lee
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 3508
Registered: 10-2-2006
Location: High in the Colorado Rockies
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MMc
I understand from where you come from,and disagree. You refuse to see any other side then you own. You just don't get and never will. MMc
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I'm with David on this and you, MMc, don't have a clue.
Surfers, and that's me since the early 60s, for the most part, live in a world of scarcity. Too many surfers, not enough waves. These pukes
don't have a clue about spirituality, or aloha. Had they been alive and surfing in the 70s, they would have been whining with the same attitude
then.
It doesn't get more crowded than Trestles and the dozen or so spots around Onofre I surf half the year. Or Old Mans and Zippers. Pedrito in the
Winter on a Saturday morning is a lot of locals with smiles on their face. It's nice.
Every time I surf these crowded breaks, I have fun -- and catch all the waves I want. And everyone around me seems to be having fun too.
Is there a problem? It's believing that surfers in the water represents scarcity and disclosing secret breaks (yeah right and if you're good Santa
will remember you) means betraying the surfers code of silence.
No maps, no pics? You live in the dark ages.
Grow up. If you have problems with crowds, you probably don't know how to surf.
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woody with a view
PITA Nomad
Posts: 15939
Registered: 11-8-2004
Location: Looking at the Coronado Islands
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deep breath......
this has been regurgitated until dry heaves produce, well, blood.
i think everyone know where we all stand on the sitch. produce turn by turn gps data and fotos blazing names of the spot you just conquered and you
are cooool, again. like jr high.
everyone is entitled to their views. i don't care enough to raise my blood pressure (i'll pull over to let you pass, DK, on the single track, if it's
flat!). but really.
nobody owns anything. people complain about the pavement coming to gonzaga. i complain about the internet searches returning up to the week data on
our favorite normally chiitty spots that go off 20 days of the year. most days you wouldn't know what you were driving by.
but who the F@%$ really cares? let's all have a Nomad party out there and invite the universe.....
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Dewey
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There are two kinds of surf spots in Baja. Easy ones to get too and harder ones to get too. The harder a spot is to get too the fewer surfers there
are. Some harder ones have gotten easier and some have not. There are no secrets. Somebody has already been there.
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woody with a view
PITA Nomad
Posts: 15939
Registered: 11-8-2004
Location: Looking at the Coronado Islands
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don't worry, Curt. that place is full of pismos, i love it!
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RichBaja
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
One of the goals of Baja Nomad is 'people helping people'... Baja Bernie I think it was even made up some shirts stating this.
Be it pulling someone out of the sand or getting help from a nearby fish camp, providing assistance when you can should be a form of self-reward.
Finding too many surfers on a Seven Sisters break the same time you go there so it prevents you from surfing will never happen. Even finding just one
other surfer has got to be rare and it is sad if you can't make friends with them, and have a better trip because you made a new friend.
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Here here!
These nomad "surfers" see like swell folk.
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RichBaja
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
One of the goals of Baja Nomad is 'people helping people'... Baja Bernie I think it was even made up some shirts stating this.
Be it pulling someone out of the sand or getting help from a nearby fish camp, providing assistance when you can should be a form of self-reward.
Finding too many surfers on a Seven Sisters break the same time you go there so it prevents you from surfing will never happen. Even finding just one
other surfer has got to be rare and it is sad if you can't make friends with them, and have a better trip because you made a new friend.
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David, Don't forget to mention the "important" polls we do on here as well.
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Lee
Ultra Nomad
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Registered: 10-2-2006
Location: High in the Colorado Rockies
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Baja Nomad is us... and we are here because we love Baja and want to preserve it for us to continue to enjoy. 100 people can preserve a place as well
as one person.
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Thanks for writing this David. Your heart is in the right place.
Ohmmmmmmm.
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MMc
Super Nomad
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Registered: 6-29-2011
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This started out as a nice post. I helped hijack it and regret it.
My rants about exposing places are not just about surfing, I have a problem killing the sense of adventure that went with a trip to Baja.
Turn by turn details take the wonder away. (IMHO) The best camp site, where to eat and where to stop, you decided and lived by your choice. It used to
called paying your dues.Surfing, Fishing and Kayak are the sports that draw me to Mexico is general. In the 70s and 80s. We would look at a maps, read
weather charts and plot the escape. THOSE DAYS ARE GONE!
Baja has been a close escape where the price of failure was dear. It is getting harder to find that adventure anywhere. I have a problem contributing
to it's demise. I believe in helping fellow traverses out just not on a board that gets 1000s of hits a day.
A lot of you will never understand this, I understand that.
MMc
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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Mexitron
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 3397
Registered: 9-21-2003
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Mood: Happy!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MMc
This started out as a nice post. I helped hijack it and regret it.
My rants about exposing places are not just about surfing, I have a problem killing the sense of adventure that went with a trip to Baja.
Turn by turn details take the wonder away. (IMHO) The best camp site, where to eat and where to stop, you decided and lived by your choice. It used to
called paying your dues.Surfing, Fishing and Kayak are the sports that draw me to Mexico is general. In the 70s and 80s. We would look at a maps, read
weather charts and plot the escape. THOSE DAYS ARE GONE!
Baja has been a close escape where the price of failure was dear. It is getting harder to find that adventure anywhere. I have a problem contributing
to it's demise. I believe in helping fellow traverses out just not on a board that gets 1000s of hits a day.
A lot of you will never understand this, I understand that.
MMc |
20 years from now you'll be saying how great it was in 2011---the good old days; enjoy it as best you can--there's always adventure to be had...I've
been b-tch slapped straight even more on this after being so far away in TX for 5 years. Change is inevitable---contribute heavily to Wildcoast and
have fun!
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Skipjack Joe
Elite Nomad
Posts: 8084
Registered: 7-12-2004
Location: Bahia Asuncion
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MMc
This started out as a nice post. I helped hijack it and regret it.
My rants about exposing places are not just about surfing, I have a problem killing the sense of adventure that went with a trip to Baja.
Turn by turn details take the wonder away. (IMHO) The best camp site, where to eat and where to stop, you decided and lived by your choice. It used to
called paying your dues.Surfing, Fishing and Kayak are the sports that draw me to Mexico is general. In the 70s and 80s. We would look at a maps, read
weather charts and plot the escape. THOSE DAYS ARE GONE!
Baja has been a close escape where the price of failure was dear. It is getting harder to find that adventure anywhere. I have a problem contributing
to it's demise. I believe in helping fellow traverses out just not on a board that gets 1000s of hits a day.
A lot of you will never understand this, I understand that.
MMc |
But many of us do understand.
Keep writing what you believe and good people will respect you.
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woody with a view
PITA Nomad
Posts: 15939
Registered: 11-8-2004
Location: Looking at the Coronado Islands
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Mood: Everchangin'
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all bow in his presence ^^^^^^^^^^.
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Curt63
Super Nomad
Posts: 1171
Registered: 3-28-2009
Location: San Diego, Ca.
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You boys ever gonna shake your peckers and end this peein match?
No worries
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Skipjack Joe
Elite Nomad
Posts: 8084
Registered: 7-12-2004
Location: Bahia Asuncion
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
There is a solution for you and others who want to know nothing in advance of your Baja trips: DON'T READ TRIP REPORTS HERE!
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This is TOTAL RUBBISH.
When you disagree with people you attack them or lobby to have their posts removed.
When people disagree with you they are simply told not to read your posts.
The man sees things differently than you do. Why is he told to go elsewhere rather than disagree with you.
I don't understand how your fans don't see through you.
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Roberto
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Posts: 2162
Registered: 9-5-2003
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I mean we Nomads are the lovers of Baja, not the destroyers... The Mexican road construction crews are the enemy of the remote coastlines of Baja...
not Baja Nomads posting photos. |
You have said this many, many times. How is it that anyone who goes to a public web site is automatically a member of the good guy's club? You can't
possibly really believe this? Have you checked how many registered users there are? Add to that all the ones who don't register.
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
I don't understand how your fans don't see through you. |
The explanation is simple, if controversial and unacceptable in this company. I am quite certain you know what it is.
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I think it is respectful to allow others to read and see trip reports of Baja here on Nomad... and highly disrespectful to go to a place and say
NOBODY ELSE (after me) should ever be allowed to read or see this place... huh?
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Is THAT what he said? My eyesight must be worse than I thought.
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
| Quote: | Originally posted by MMc
This started out as a nice post. I helped hijack it and regret it.
My rants about exposing places are not just about surfing, I have a problem killing the sense of adventure that went with a trip to Baja.
Turn by turn details take the wonder away. (IMHO) The best camp site, where to eat and where to stop, you decided and lived by your choice. It used to
called paying your dues.Surfing, Fishing and Kayak are the sports that draw me to Mexico is general. In the 70s and 80s. We would look at a maps, read
weather charts and plot the escape. THOSE DAYS ARE GONE!
Baja has been a close escape where the price of failure was dear. It is getting harder to find that adventure anywhere. I have a problem contributing
to it's demise. I believe in helping fellow traverses out just not on a board that gets 1000s of hits a day.
A lot of you will never understand this, I understand that.
MMc |
But many of us do understand.
Keep writing what you believe and good people will respect you. |
What he said. You have nothing to apologize for, tiresome as the drama you are getting is.
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Lee
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 3508
Registered: 10-2-2006
Location: High in the Colorado Rockies
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
There is a solution for you and others who want to know nothing in advance of your Baja trips: DON'T READ TRIP REPORTS HERE!
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This is TOTAL RUBBISH.
When you disagree with people you attack them or lobby to have their posts removed.
When people disagree with you they are simply told not to read your posts.
The man sees things differently than you do. Why is he told to go elsewhere rather than disagree with you.
I don't understand how your fans don't see through you. |
Wow you really don't like David, do you?
Guess there's something in David's posts that I can't see through either.
MMc got emotional, admitted to ranting about the old lost days of Baja, thinks the ''mystique'' is long gone, and possibly believes David is part of
the cause of this.
This is more territorial stuff to me. I got mine, it use to be better until you arrived with the crowds, and now it sucks so let's keep things
secret.
Pecking order by unenlightened misfits: if you don't know where to surf, find out somewhere else. If you don't speak Spanish or live in Baja
full time, you ain't shlt.
Anything else?
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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Skipjack Joe
Elite Nomad
Posts: 8084
Registered: 7-12-2004
Location: Bahia Asuncion
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MMc
This started out as a nice post. I helped hijack it and regret it.
My rants about exposing places are not just about surfing, I have a problem killing the sense of adventure that went with a trip to Baja.
Turn by turn details take the wonder away. (IMHO) The best camp site, where to eat and where to stop, you decided and lived by your choice. It used to
called paying your dues.Surfing, Fishing and Kayak are the sports that draw me to Mexico is general. In the 70s and 80s. We would look at a maps, read
weather charts and plot the escape. THOSE DAYS ARE GONE!
Baja has been a close escape where the price of failure was dear. It is getting harder to find that adventure anywhere. I have a problem contributing
to it's demise. I believe in helping fellow traverses out just not on a board that gets 1000s of hits a day.
A lot of you will never understand this, I understand that.
MMc |
Well, I guess I agree with his "rant" and feel he has the right to say the above and not be told to go elsewhere rather than say it.
This is not the first time that this tactic has been used by David and I don't much like it and find it wrong. If you disagree with someone then prove
it rather than telling them to get lost. It's essentially a form of bullying.
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