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Floatflyer
 
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With 2,000 hrs in a 210 and close to 1,000 hrs each in a 182 and a 206, it is my opinion that there is not very  much difference in the flying of any
of them.  AND certainly not enough to cause a crash on this type of flight.  IF this was a theft, the good news is that there are 2 less thieves
around.  I am also surprised that the media didn't blame the crash on a lack of a flight plan, tee, hee.
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Floatflyer: 
 
Well..I disagree. You may have forgotten what it was like to sit in a C210 for the first time after a lot of hours in a C182/206.  I too have a lot of
hours....3000 in my Bonanza for starters...and and another 800 in my old C182 straight tail (good Baja bird) and another 1000 as a CFI years ago in
just about every GA airplane you can think of.  I have seen good C182 and Cherokee pilots manhandle a C210 so badly that they were at risk of breaking
their butts.  If those two thieves were new to a C210, in the dark, in a hurry and stressed by their crime I think there would have been a good chance
for them to prang the thing. 
 
I agree that a C210 is pretty easy to fly and that so is a Bonanza but yer basic fixed gear weekend....or illicit...pilot ain't anywhere near ready to
fly one safely.
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 | Quote: |  Originally posted by Floatflyer 
With 2,000 hrs in a 210 and close to 1,000 hrs each in a 182 and a 206, it is my opinion that there is not very  much difference in the flying of any
of them.  AND certainly not enough to cause a crash on this type of flight.  IF this was a theft, the good news is that there are 2 less thieves
around.  I am also surprised that the media didn't blame the crash on a lack of a flight plan, tee, hee.   |  
  
 
I hope you don't think that anything I said suggested that the real or perceived difficulty in flying a 210 versus the other models had anything to do
with this particular 210 augering into the water.  It didn't.
 
 
 
 
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Well, maybe I was just an exceptional pilot and did not have that much trouble transitioning from one plane to another.  
 
I have never owned a Bonanza and have only flown in a couple so no opinion on that.  One other point was if this was a theft, there would probably
have been a simple take off and climb to a cruise condition.  No reason to be maneuvering at low altitude. 
 
But, differences of opinion is what makes horse racing.  FF
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couldn't find the orig thread but 
 
 
update on BPI. 
 
It appears that the recent crash of a Cessna 210 departing Punta Pescadero early in the morning last week may not have been a theft. 
 
From several sources this is what I have been told: 
 
According to the FAA website the accident aircraft was deregistered with the FAA in 2005 when it was exported to Mexico. 
 
The pilot and his son who died in the crash had flown the aircraft into Punta Pescadero about a month prior to the accident. They registered the AC
with the Hotel Punta Pescadero using factious [SIC] names. 
 
They appear to have been staying at the Hotel Calafia in Buena Vista. After the accident the pilot’s daughter was found at the Hotel Calafia and at
least questioned if not arrested by authorities. 
 
To date pieces of the AC have been recovered but so far no drugs have been reported to have been found in the wreckage.  
 
The Punta Pescadero Airport remains open and the military is now on guard 24/7. 
  
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AC = aircraft.    
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 | Quote: |  Originally posted by Barry A. 
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Hi Barry......you've been laying low.  It's good to see you back. 
 
Is that lieing low...lying low??  Something doesn't seem right. 
Ohhh....I know.  My beer is empty.    
Or...is that MT? 
 
 
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[Edited on 8-7-2011 by DENNIS]
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Hi Dennis--------thanks for the acknowledgement, and all that.  I have been moving around a lot for a few months taking care of business, and mostly
away from the computer, etc.. 
 
As far as "posting" is concerned, I also began to feel pretty guilty as it has been so long since I have been to Mexico (5 years now) that most of my
'Baja' input was getting awfully dated.    
 
I do check NOMADS from time to time to see if you guys have everything under control-------------most of the time you do.    
 
Anything "in the boonies" that is posted is still of interest to me, like this thread on the pole line road-----never got to run this adventurous trip
before, so I am always interested.  Funny, I explored all around it over many years, but never made the run down the PL road itself.  I am envious!!!!
  Looks like a D-4 Cat would come in handy.     
 
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Maybe just me. But it just seems that if you're going to fly in to Punta Pescadero, why would you then stay at Buena Vista? 
 
I know nothing about the rates between SJD and Punta Pescadero, but once landed, one would have to drive a someone tricky 9 mile dirt road just to
reach pavement. 
 
I've actually stayed at Hotel Punta Pescadero. Lovely place. 
 
But given that if one was to land at SJD, it would be only a 50 mile drive on well maintained pavement to Buena Vista, the idea of landing on the
strip at Punta Pescadero certainly raises some red flags for me.  
 
Smuggling, anyone?
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I would guess that a room at Punta Pescadero would be quite expensive for a month stay verses Calafia....  
 
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 | Quote: |  Originally posted by Bajahowodd 
Maybe just me. But it just seems that if you're going to fly in to Punta Pescadero, why would you then stay at Buena Vista? 
 
I know nothing about the rates between SJD and Punta Pescadero, but once landed, one would have to drive a someone tricky 9 mile dirt road just to
reach pavement. 
 
I've actually stayed at Hotel Punta Pescadero. Lovely place. 
 
But given that if one was to land at SJD, it would be only a 50 mile drive on well maintained pavement to Buena Vista, the idea of landing on the
strip at Punta Pescadero certainly raises some red flags for me.  
 
Smuggling, anyone?   |  
  
 
Pescadero is the only reasonable (paved) airport in the area.  If you get permission to use it and don't stay at the resort you will save about $300
per night since Hotel Pescardero is for rich gringos and doesn't see much stay a month occupancy.
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and..........small planes landing at SJD are charged ridiculous premiums up to $200 a day in ramp fees and parking/handling. 
they do NOT want small GA at SJD. so they price em out of the market to ensure they go to CSL instead.
 
 
 
 
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