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woody with a view
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Sr. Osprey
due to my own modesty and fondness for Pacifico's i know enough to keep my shirt on anywhere in mixed company, even at the beach, which seldom happens
as most of the beaches i seek out are deserted....
you do bring up a good point about how best to educate the clueless. it's prolly better to make faces and point while sneering at the offender, lest
your Mexican hosts think you appreciate good sleeve ink.
i wonder what chrisx thinks?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
We have a guy who has serious tatoos all over his body and if he could only understand what the Mexicans are saying about him, he might show a little
consideration and cover up some of his "fine art work". |
tatoos are a bit marooonic. the most marooonic are the polynesian-, maori- and other tribal-style tatoos sported by middle class gringos that work in
cubicles of corporate america and hail from the burbs.
i suppose the only good tatoo is a tramp stamp on a fine piece of @ss (but will be a messy tatoo when that tail turns 50)
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woody with a view
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hey goat, it's called an A$$ hat. get with the times, bud. 
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
We have a guy who has serious tatoos all over his body and if he could only understand what the Mexicans are saying about him, he might show a little
consideration and cover up some of his "fine art work". |
tatoos are a bit marooonic. the most marooonic are the polynesian-, maori- and other tribal-style tatoos sported by middle class gringos that work in
cubicles of corporate america and hail from the burbs. |
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JESSE
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The only cool tatoos are the ones that where done when something heavy was happening in your life, like when you join the marines, or go to
prison.
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C-Urchin
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nudity
| Quote: | Originally posted by Martyman
Going nude is nothing compared to those guy bicyclist in their spandex. I am practicing my projectile vomiting to spew at them. Can't they just wear
regular clothes? Nobody and I mean nobody want to see your spandex a$$.
Now in Europe... |
OOOUUUHHH! How about the....SPEEDOOOOO!
Fat guy, hairy back, bow legged...
*Be the man your dog thinks you are
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Santiago
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
I always shave my back before going shirtless. |
How do you get those spots you can't reach???
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
The only cool tatoos are the ones that where done when something heavy was happening in your life, like when you join the marines, or go to
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like commemorating your first kill with a teardrop tatoo beneath your eye!
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Loretana
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
The only cool tatoos are the ones that where done when something heavy was happening in your life, like when you join the marines, or go to
prison. |
......or as Jimmy Buffett said "a tatoo is a permanent reminder of a temporary situation..." 
another good reason to keep your shirt on!
[Edited on 9-8-2011 by Loretana]
"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
-Nikola Tesla
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Santiago
| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
I always shave my back before going shirtless. |
How do you get those spots you can't reach??? |
MANGROOMER, it has a long handle for those hard to reach spots.
http://www.mangroomer.com/
[Edited on 9-8-2011 by tripledigitken]
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bajadave1
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NO Respect,perhaps
The gringo's I see her in our small town, are usually the first time tourist's.They don't seem to be aware of fitting in with the population's mores
and civility. I always feel bad that we are sometimes judged as guilt by association as "Ugly Americans" Maybe IQ points evaporate quicker when that
much skin is exposed! Have not seen any senoritas goin' crazy over them.
Dave
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Tbone
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajadave1
The gringo's I see her in our small town, are usually the first time tourist's.They don't seem to be aware of fitting in with the population's mores
and civility. I always feel bad that we are sometimes judged as guilt by association as "Ugly Americans" Maybe IQ points evaporate quicker when that
much skin is exposed! Have not seen any senoritas goin' crazy over them.
Dave |
It seems to me that us ugly shirtless Americans bother you higher then thou want to be's more then it does the Mexicans.
Mas Pacifico
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajadave1
The gringo's I see her in our small town, are usually the first time tourist's.They don't seem to be aware of fitting in with the population's mores
and civility. I always feel bad that we are sometimes judged as guilt by association as "Ugly Americans" Maybe IQ points evaporate quicker when that
much skin is exposed! Have not seen any senoritas goin' crazy over them.
Dave |
Yes! I think you are basically saying the same thing as Osprey. Speaking for myself, it is not the nudity that is offensive; it is the lack of
cultural sensitivity exhibited. It reflects on the way all of us Gringos are judged.
I too subscribe to the double standard though; nude women are easier on the eye than nude men. Add to that the fat and hairy bodies of nude men, well,
that's gross in any culture.  But clothed women are OK by me. I know what is
going on underneath those clothes!  
In regards to why nudity is not prevalent in Mexican culture, nobody has mentioned the Catholic factor. Catholicism holds a culture in bondage through
the generations and is the main driver of morals for the masses.
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Barry A.
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Tony---------"bondage"????????? I don't think so. People CHOOSE to have structure in their society, and the 'church' provides that.
You brought this up, and it is controversial, so I am commenting.
I am not religious, but I certainly can see the appeal of a structured society that holds morals and principals to a higher standard that many
appreciate, aspire too, even if they don't always practice those 'principals'. We are all hypocrits, IMO, but we do aspire to greater things than we
often practice, at least some of us do, and that is ok, and even admirable, IMO
Barry
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Dave
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Moral high ground
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
There were at least 5 couples sunbathing & swimming nude (all gringos) along the beach both north and south of us. Several of the Mexicano men
walked down the beach with mechetes in hand, and spoke to each group of nudes, group by group, but we could not hear what they said. Very soon there
was no more nudity. |
Defending modesty while littering their beaches and byways with abandon.
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shari
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geez Marty...I love spandex on those sexy bikeriders, football pants too!
Yup, I had to really tone down my...err...bathing habits when I moved here and putting on a bikini was not enough...Juan doesnt want me swimming in
public view unless I have either shorts or a one piece suit on...preferrably both. He never goes shirtless in public!...yes, it is frowned on here but
as someone mentioned, the politically correct high horse folks are stressin much more about it than the locals.
these wild Italians put their shirts on when they came into town from the beach...they were going to go change into "dining clothes" and were
surprised when I said they were fine the way they were...they couldnt believe it was OK to go into Juanitas in flip flops and shorts...one of the
great things about Asuncion...pretty relaxed and beachy...they did wash the sand off their feet though...very respectful folks.
Wow Jake...we have another poet in our midst...nice piece dude.
[Edited on 9-8-2011 by shari]
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chrisx
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temperature exemption?
41 Celsius at 11:00 am. I am wearing a shirt.
If it hits 45, can I take it off? 50?
HEY GRINGO HIT THE BRAKES
SCAN THE ROAD AHEAD AT ALL TIMES
HIT THE BRAKES AND SLOW WAY DOWN
WAIT, PASS WHEN SAFE
HEY GRINGO HIT THE BRAKES!
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
There were at least 5 couples sunbathing & swimming nude (all gringos) along the beach both north and south of us. Several of the Mexicano men
walked down the beach with mechetes in hand, and spoke to each group of nudes, group by group, but we could not hear what they said. Very soon there
was no more nudity. |
Defending modesty while littering their beaches and byways with abandon. |
Dave-----Not all are guilty of that, at least in this case.. These local folks left a reasonably clean camp, even tho the general area was pretty
messy to begin with. I know because I checked their camp after they left as I am a fanatic when it comes to "trash". I was impressed!!!! Not
perfect, but pretty darn clean.
Barry
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SFandH
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Hey, Keep Your Shirt On...and Your Pants
This guy probably wouldn't like Mexico.
link to LA Times article about hanging out in San Francisco
[Edited on 9-8-2011 by SFandH]
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Tony---------"bondage"????????? I don't think so. People CHOOSE to have structure in their society, and the 'church' provides that.
You brought this up, and it is controversial, so I am commenting.
I am not religious, but I certainly can see the appeal of a structured society that holds morals and principals to a higher standard that many
appreciate, aspire too, even if they don't always practice those 'principals'. We are all hypocrits, IMO, but we do aspire to greater things than we
often practice, at least some of us do, and that is ok, and even admirable, IMO
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Barry,
I agree that religion should provide a structure for moral guidance. That is what the church is for. If it keeps people in line, that is a good thing.
It activates Dopamine and is often a substitution and transference by dope addicts and cult followers.
The Catholic Church has not been a stellar institution throughout its long sordid past; a history of invasion, killing and plunder, and don't forget
The Spanish Inquisition, emphasizing the fear of God rather than the Love of God...and then there is that old Devil guy they give so much power to.
"Bondage" is quite applicable, in my opinion.
I am not anti-religion, but I am sacrilegious. I am also against Evangelists trying to lay it on me and also trying to take over my country and its
armed services through politics. The Crusades are emerging once again.
However, there are other ways for people strong of character to live a moral life and thereby teaching by example; not by proselytizing. It is called
taking responsibility for one's actions in the Here and Now.
Let my shirt be a testimonial symbol of my moral character... unless I am on the beach or by a pool.  (You wouldn't have it any other way.)
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