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BigOly
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In Baja Sur most of our fossil water comes from years of orographic rainfall. The assets of snow pack are nonexistent. Water is hard to store in
reservoirs due to the soil structure. The sand fills in when the water is dammed. Static hydrology of fresh water/salt water probably needs more
study but a baseline needs to be established.
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Osprey
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Above the little farming village of Boca de la Sierra there is a concrete dam and a one kilometer aquaduct (a meter by a meter). When it rains (and
somebody can walk up there to the valve) it works well to channel the water to the village/farms. Over time the dam fills up with silt and will not
hold water. The aquaduct is useless untill graders can make it up the rugged canyon to remove the silt. There will one day be series of
dams/reservoirs at La Purisima, Mulege (Rio Santa Rosalia) and San Jose del Cabo --- they are building two more as we speak above San Lazaro, the
reservoir for Los Cabos. Unless they are very clever they will lose much of the fresh water to silt, leaks and evaporation. Ask Cabenos about that.
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Bajatripper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
Not necessarily so. I did a lot of research on this for a potential client and the biggest problem is the byproduct of de-sal, which is some pretty
toxic stuff. Water is a very elastic product and anytime you want to change some property that is present in the water, you find that the water tries
its darndest to return to it's normal state. When you lower the PH, for example, the water tries very hard to return to its original state. The
same thing was true of Salt Water, and it tries to return to its original chemical composition and requires a lot of energy to convert it. The lay
person assumes it is a quick and easy process to take the salt out and have water, but the process is very expensive and right now you need a way to
get rid of the byproducts. If a project the size of Loreto Bay had gone pure desal, it might have raised the salinity level beyond recoverable
levels, since it is already so high in the Sea of Cortez.
Like most of the "Green Technology" that gets pushed by subsidies and political agendas, this one has some major problems that will need to be
overcome before it is a viable alternative. |
In agreement with this, I've done the same reading. Unfortunately, the reality is that when the need arises, I doubt too many will care about the
harmful byproducts, choosing to believe the people from within the industry who (even now) assure us that these problems are minor or don't exist.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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BajaBlanca
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if you all remember, i posted about puerto nuevo BCS a while ago ... well, the guy who owns the cabanas went into the mountains and he himself PIPED
water all the way (literally miles) to his cabanas so that he could have plenty of water...it is a feat worth seeing ! Now he and the townspeople have
plenty of free constantly running water.
never heard of fossil water - thanks for the education, Osprey !
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RnR
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capn.sharky
I would guess there is plenty to go around for many years to come. Los Angeles was a great desert at one time and we have figgured out how to bring
in water. |
Yes, from almost a THOUSAND miles away .....
It's only about 900 miles from the end of the California State Water Project near San Diego to the Los Cabos area. Maybe Cabo should get started
building that pipeline/aqueduct .....
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Osprey
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The marina is like Grupo Mar's other two projects in Baja, Puerta La Salina up by Ensenada and Lighthouse Point Estates next to the Punta Colorado
Resort right here. They are land developers who sell lots for homes, hotels, marinas, etc. After 9 years there are about 20 homes at Lighthouse point
estates (486 lots) so if and when we see a lot of homes on the islands of the marina, lots of yachts in the slips it may take some time in today's
iffy housing/economy situation. Just one of their golf courses could use the same amount of fresh water as our village so there are bound to be some
fights here over the cool, wet stuff.
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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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a little footnote on water....the ships that carry salt from Guerrero Negro to Vancouver, to salt the canadian roadways with...unload the salt and
fill their ballast tanks with lovely fresh water from Toba Inlet to bring back to baja...they use this water to wash the salt with I believe and maybe
even for water at Cedros Island.
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El Jefe
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We use about 10 cubic meters a month trucked in. We looked at desal but decided that having water trucked was more economical than having propane
trucked to feed the generator that ran the desal plant etc.
Now I see that we are quite a bit over a sustainable amount. Will have to cut back on watering those cocos I guess....
Below is rainfall history for area close by me on east cape. Yes, the drought continues.
PLAYA TORTUGA RAINFALL
1998- 23.25 INCHES
1999- 1.83
2000- 9.08
2001- 10.82
2002- 4.51
2003- 14.48
2004- 4.52
2005—4.66
2006—11.41
2007---3.98
2008---4.51
2009—5.81
2010---2.66
AVE RAINFALL/ YR—7.81
2011- 1.13 YTD
No b-tchin\' in the Baja.
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Osprey
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Jefe, exactly where are you? I'm surprised we got almost 2 inches so far this year -- more than you.
[Edited on 9-23-2011 by Osprey]
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El Jefe
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I am between Zacatitos and Vinorama on the coast road about 16 miles up from San Jose del Cabo. The rain stats come from out neighbor Lou who lives a
little closer to SJdC.
We've had a few more lucky showers than Lou, so we are probably in the 2 inch range too.
[Edited on 9-23-2011 by El Jefe]
No b-tchin\' in the Baja.
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