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dirtbikr
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Mood: start slow....then taper off!
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I'll give them a high five for an adventure spirit, but for endangering their childrens lives, they are just not thinking! , having numerous close
call on hywy 1, (including shattering my side mirror with a big rig, when passing me) try driving then with no side mirror, many times there is just
no place to go when vehiciles get close. I hope they stay lucky!
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Pompano
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A nice young couple..with two VERY active children...boy and girl. I met them on Nov 8th between San Ignacio and Santa Rosalia at...where else?
Kilometer 63!
I overtook them after taking these three pictures of them. They were being very cautious of all traffic, including yours truly. I tapped a beep,
they waved.
Would I let my grandchildren do this? Not on your life...BUT... I can't speak for these parents, and they do seem to have it together. I wish them
LUCK AND LONG LIFE.
About 3 miles futher down the road I had stopped for a lunch break..and they came pedaling up and joined me for a bite. Then off we went...some of us
a little faster than others.
Oddly enough, I met them again in Mulege yesterday at Cuesta Real Park where they were tent-camped for a couple days. Hah...I again had a snack with
them when I offered them some baked goodies from Costco, San Diego. (Arghh..those things are deelicious, but swarming in calories...and what the
French family did not eat, I gave away to another resident of the park.)
I believe they are now on their way south...Say Hi to Coyote Bay, mon amis.
p.s. Bajahoward, I can't agree with the notion that American youths are not as adventurous as European youths. Seems about the same to me...at least
from my own experiences as a rambunctous youngster and a traveler today.
A friend, Randy of course, and I met many other American kids in the wild 60's , mixed in with the world's youth on the move....we went to many
places on a shoestring....Spain, Italy, Mexico, Africa, Asia (Tibet, Nepal, India, Iran, and more)..met kids of all European nations and always
somebody from Indiana, LA, or Colorado.. we were all the same kids, no matter your country of origin. Yes, indeed....it sure seemed like all the
world's youth was on the move back then. We had a ball ...AND.....
....thank God we survived those times!
I still remember the lessons learned...eat rice and at any Mom & Pops, avoid salads. Never turn down se....welllll, nuff said bout that..
[Edited on 11-15-2011 by Pompano]
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
As for the political sidebar... ignoring me will be your best bet to letting it pass. I am not as old as Skeet, but I do have strong feelings about
America and children, none-the-less:
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Rule number one ---- listed
Authorized Use Policy:
1. Topics within the BajaNomad.com forums will pertain the Baja California, Mexico peninsula.
So, since you just stated that you have no intention of stopping the insertion of your political crap because you can be ignored, then will you also
please ignore it when people post larger pictures than you prefer and allow people to spell things the way they see fit?
Seems like a reasonable compromise. Or maybe next we should all start inserting our religious and or spiritual beliefs.
Glad you care about America and children, I think all of us do----ok, for the Canuks, it is Canada and children. 
On edit---when you do a political rant, you should at least give the author of that rant credit---in this case, it was Limbaugh's rant.
[Edited on 11-15-2011 by DianaT]
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Posada-BushPilot
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I love this thread
Really great discussion. Like the original poster, Casa Manzana stated "Think about this one" and your responses reflect that suggestion.
My thoughts are varied.
First, I think I know the poster to be a very thoughtful guy. I can give you an example of his intellect, that is so obvious in his original post.
Notice that he kept his distance while taking the pics, AND he is upwind. Very smart. God knows the last time these folks had a bath.
Got to be impressed with these young folks ambition. One must wonder how they are financing this adventure. But not any of my business.
Is this what Charles Darwin was talking about? If they survive will they be the "fitest" or is this natures way of managing the gene pool.
Just because something is "legal" doesn't mean it really makes any sense.
What is going thru peoples minds that think it safe, not for the bike riders, or the folks that share the road with them, that riding a bike on a two
lane road with RVs. big rigs, and autos, is a prudent decision. Way beyond my comprehension. If they feel the risk is worth the reward, then god
bless them. The truth is they are so short sited and selfish because they have no consideration for ohers they are putting at risk on the Hwy. Hope
they are enjoying their little thrill.
We have all done stuff in our youth that seemed to be a good idea at the time, and I like to think I learned from my many bad decisions. But when one
brings prodigy into the world, does that not change things a little? So, question is would these young parents, if in the USA, be charged with child
endangerment?
I wish them the best of luck and pray there is no tradagy. Not something I would want to witness.
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jakecard
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"Hey, you got your car stuck to my bicycle!"
"No, you got your bicycle stuck to my car!"
And so it goes. That's modernity for you.
Jake
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motoged
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| Quote: | | Originally posted by Posada-B..... The truth is they are so short sited and selfish because they have no consideration for ohers they are putting
at risk on the Hwy.... |
Is this "the Truth"....or just your opinion?
Don't believe everything you think....
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
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Calling insanity "adventurous."
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David K
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April fools!
political crap removed (well, most of it)
[Edited on 11-15-2011 by David K]
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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
April fools!
political crap removed (well, most of it)
[Edited on 11-15-2011 by David K] |
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I would like to protest your use of the word crap. Please be politically correct, use septic or feces please.
Also...what BN fools are you referring too....that were born in April?
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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MitchMan
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Taking two young kids on such a trip and family traveling together that way has some really great aspects to it. It makes them special people and
sets a footing for fabulous orientation for the kids. As someone eluded to earlier on this thread, many Americans aren't traveled enough. All my
life in USA, I have known people that see the world thru Orange County California eyes only. That is not good.
HOWEVER, looking at those three photos of that family riding their bikes on that Baja road, well, that is just plain dangerous. When I saw those
photos, I got a cold chill running down my spine. I have driven the length of the Baja round trip about 5 times over the last 13 years and, in my
opinion, all things considered, I would never consider doing it with kids in tow like they are doing. Too dangerous. There will be so many drivers
in cars, trucks and RVs very big and small that will be passing them very fast and slow, all it takes is one of those drivers to not be paying
attention or making a misjudgement OR the family commiting just one misjudgement upon being passed for a tragedy to happen. Statistically, that's
got to be a time bomb.
Some people, humans, can be very disciplined and consistently keep their focus, that's certainly possible MOST ALL THE TIME, but not every single
time, all the time. Also, that couple has absolutely no control over the passing drivers or whatever those drivers' level of disciplne and focus may
be.
Futhermore, what is the plan if someone does get hurt out there on the road? How far does first aid go to cover a truly disastrous situation? What
will be the availability, immediacy, adequacy, and sufficiency of medical help on the road? I wonder, have they thought this through? Do they know
their medical options at every point on their trip? Is there cell phone coverage at every foot of the trip? Are their cell phones charged up all the
time? I can see an adult guy or gal taking on this risk on their own, but putting your young family thru the risks inherent in this long trip is
another thing.
Nope, too risky.
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kiterkip
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You are correct! I DON'T believe this. Insanity. Stupidity. Just plain nuts.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
April fools!
political crap removed (well, most of it)
[Edited on 11-15-2011 by David K] |
Thank you---good to see Rush Limbaugh's rant removed -- it is a good start.
[Edited on 11-15-2011 by DianaT]
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Mulegena
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
April fools!
political crap removed (well, most of it)
[Edited on 11-15-2011 by David K] |
Thank you---good to see Rush Limbaugh's rant removed -- it is a good start.
[Edited on 11-15-2011 by DianaT] |
Lush Schrimshaw!
The official court jester?
No one takes that drivel cereal-- uh, seriously, in this day and age, do they? (did they ever?)
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Bajaboy
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half the people complaining about this probably feed their kids coke, drive too fast, and eat at McDonalds....give it a break.
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Bicho
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Attention Seeking Behavior
Cyclists or Critics: Who fits?
1. Selectively friendly...sickly sweet to some / rude and offhand to others.
2. capitolizes on issues and uses them as a soapbox for gaining attention.
3. misappropriates others statements in an attempt to control, especially anything which can be misconstructed as politically incorrect.
4. shows a lot of indignation.
5. easily provoked.
6. constantly tries and will do almost anything to be in the spotlight.
7. focus in life is to be the center of attention.
Check your mirrors You may have won the prize!
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Pompano
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Bikers on Highways
These are various highway bikers (or should I say bicyclists?) I have photographed all around the North American continent.
Since the pavement went in back in 72-73, the Baja Road became open to whoever wanted to make the trip.
Personally, I have not heard of any bicycle fatalities on The Baja Road...yet. I sincerely hope that situation continues.
Review the pictures and draw your own conclusions....if any.
Most recent.
Conception Bay. Joggers and walkers using The Baja Road.
Typical hills and curves coming into Conception Bay from either direction.
Gold Beach, Oregon Coast Road.
North & South Dakota are biker, walker friendly.
Spokane area, Washington
The Baja Road
We biked all over Alaska and the Yukon….puff, puff, puff….I was re-ended by a musk-ox.
US roads have bike lanes almost everywhere these days.
Get Your Kicks..on Route 66!
Oceanside, Ca and Oregon Coast…bike lanes.
And now back to Baja....
BELOW ARE TWO VERY SAFE AND ‘REASONABLY-SANE’ BIKERS. 
MAKE VOYAGES...ATTEMPT THEM! THERE IS LITTLE ELSE.
[Edited on 11-15-2011 by Pompano]
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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elgatoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
half the people complaining about this probably feed their kids coke, drive too fast, and eat at McDonalds....give it a break.
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Word! 
MAGA
marooons Are Governing America
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motoged
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Pompano,
Yeah....a lot of good our "relative sanity" was...
Off the highway, eh???
Walking and riding on a broken leg for 10 days before surgery....adventurous???...Yep, you betcha !!
Read all about it....(yes, David....still milking the story :biggrin :
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=666961
Don't believe everything you think....
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Pompano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
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Yeee...Y-Ouch! Nice trip souvenir!
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Barry A.
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BajaTripper said, "My sister's a teacher in California, so I'm aware of many of the issues she faces while doing the best she can with what she's
given to work with."
And I say-------my daughter-in-law teaches in a public school in CA in Oroville, CA and she makes north of $65K a year------enough to support her
husband and 2 small kids, a nice home they are buying, and two cars, and my son is a stay-at-home Dad, raising the two kids.
Just how much "renumeration" does a teacher need, in your opinion???
Barry
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