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David K
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When i was running coast to coast in my Peterbuilt I had a Pair of aricraft landing lights mounted under my bumper to Discourage the K.C. light
crowd.
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This is the light I use to discourage them: 
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Ken Cooke
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More Baja lies, folks...
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Yah they moved there from California a few years ago.. like so many other businesses did after what the damn ... (oh, never mind)...
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http://www.4wdandsportutility.com/features/1111_4wd_kc_hilit...
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
turns out TLC is an "older" KC product. i think i'm gonna just buy a new reflector and bulb and install them into the housing. i'd like to keep my old
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Be sure to post photos of how the rebuild goes with your lights, and how they work out in the field. I'm curious about this older style of KC light.
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woody with a view
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they are similar to the daylighter series, if not identical. 6" long range.
i'll resurrect this thread later with the details.
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Ken Cooke
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I will look forward to reading about your lights and how they held up to the real-world conditions in Baja. As for KC products, I have been running
their 150w Daylighters since 2002 and I have been very satisfied with their performance.
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woody with a view
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yeah, i've had them installed for over a year now. the grommet on the bad one is gone but i siliconed where the grommet should be to keep out the
moisture. maybe it didn't seal adequately. it looked clean when i got them off craigslist for $30.
anyway, $26 from amazon and a new reflector is on the way. the light output on the bad one is 1/5 the good one. can't wait to light up the night
again.
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805gregg
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If you want to see, dump the old tech and get Lightforce, made for the outback.
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woody with a view
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okay! for $56 i got a set of lights that blow dorrs off the tundra headlights. i only use them for pre-dawn runs south of the border trying to get a
jump on the daylight. i don't drive at night, i only use them before dawn shows her crack, jack!
no interest in offroading at night.....
[Edited on 12-10-2011 by woody with a view]
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Roberto
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Frankly, I would go with Hella 4000s. They are pretty much the standard.
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David K
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... and get HIDs or convert the halogens to HID! 1/3 the wattage and twice the brightness+ 
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woody with a view
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amazon rocks
i got the reflector yesterday in the mail. the old one was rusting around the edge of the glass and near the bulb. it took 10 minutes to disassemble
the light and put it back together.
before (without rockguards):
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woody with a view
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time for a break!
5 minutes later i was in bidness. just need to adjust the light again as the new one is shining on the fascia of my neighbor across the street. the
old one was that bad that i couldn't aim it right, apparently.
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This is great news, Woody. I adjusted mine outside of Valle de la Trinidad after dark last month. They help with regard to seeing livestock while
driving after dark on the highways.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
They help with regard to seeing livestock while driving after dark on the highways. |
i like the fact that oncoming traffic sees me WAAAY before they are coming around the next bend.
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You will be impressed with how well auxiliary lighting augments your factory headlamps.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
You will be impressed with how well auxiliary lighting augments your factory headlamps. |
YUP!
The two outside lights are Kragen 7" HID (35 watt) Euro (Driving) beams. The two inside lights are Hella 4000 Pencil (Spot) beams that were 100 watt
halogens, but I converted them to 35 watt HID (5,000ēK color).
Against my garage wall:
Note how much whiter and brighter the HIDs are compared with the stock halogen (yellowish) headlights.
Here are the Hella lights when they were 100 watt halogens:
Note the Kragen HIDs using 1/3 the power are brighter than the halogen Hellas. HID (High Intensity Discharge) is more expensive, but really ligts up
the night!
The newest trick in lighting is LED, uses even less power than HID, is tiny in size and makes some insane light... but the price is still VERY high!
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DavidK
Could you make it easy on this novice and siimply tell me what long range model HID lights to get for my Tacoma so I can see the bloody cows at night
from as far away as possible. Yea, I drive at night and I like it.
I take it the "HID's" are a little easier on the electrical system no ??
Thank you
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David K
where did you get the bar? readymade or did you have to make it?
Jim
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by KaceyJ
DavidK
Could you make it easy on this novice and siimply tell me what long range model HID lights to get for my Tacoma so I can see the bloody cows at night
from as far away as possible. Yea, I drive at night and I like it.
I take it the "HID's" are a little easier on the electrical system no ??
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Depends on your budget... The 'cheapest' HID driving beams are the Kragens (Now O'Reilley?) which are made in China, but are very bright. On the
negative, they use plastic housing and they both cracked soon after I installed them (2008) driving to Gonzaga and south of L.A. Bay... Josh fixed
them both using fiberglass... and then gave me the Hella 4000 metal lamps (off an off road racer). I had Josh modify my light bar to hold 4 lights
from the two it was made for... and now have all 4 of my lights.
So, HID are the brightest type bulbs... and you want to stay between 4300 and 5000ēK in color temp. for the whitest light. Higher and they become too
blue and get dimmer. The Kragens are in that range.
If not HID, then 100 watt to 130 watt halogen will do, but you will need a relay on the wire harness.
Driving Beams (also called Euro Beams) will light up more area plus give you distance. Pencil (Spot) beams will light the greatest distance but only
as wide as the road.
Fog Beams, are short but very wide patterns... good for cornering.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jadams
David K
where did you get the bar? readymade or did you have to make it?
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Custom made by my stepson Josh, at Stewart's Raceworks in Santee, on his day off...
That was in 2008 on my 2005 Tacoma... When we moved it to my 2010 Tacoma... it only required re-drilling the four holes through the mounting location
(cross bar). We lated added a weld to the cross bar, as it was not as solid as the '05 was and allowed vibration, but not any more.
Earlier this year, Josh made the bar hold 4 lights by removing the two tabs and relocating them and 2 more.
We used these illuminated switches from Radio Shack for the lights... blue are the driving beams and red are the pencil beams...
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