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[*] posted on 12-12-2011 at 09:47 AM


Thanks for that GE cache information Skipjack Joe! Didn't know that . .

I have a very useful program called Screenhunter (wisdom-soft.com) that saves the screen as a .jpg picture file. I also have an old copy of Fugawi GPS software - when you open the picture (or any scanned map) in Fugawi, you assign lat/long (or UTM) coordinates to each corner and you now have a map that "knows" where it is.

Show the map on your laptop, plug in your GPS and you have a realtime position/track machine.
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[*] posted on 12-12-2011 at 10:48 AM


We might need a GPS to navigate the yucca hijack :biggrin::biggrin:



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[*] posted on 12-12-2011 at 11:12 AM


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Nice technique Skipjack. My favorite is still the full size topos but the two working together could help in some of the nether regions of the outback---especially where the Yucca harvesters have carved in all kinds of networks of confusing roads...


Mexitron, have you seen this?

http://www.sierenphotography.com/gallery/11413278_7bVVA#802214548_qdJfk

This professional landscape photographer uses Google Earth to visualize what the lighting will look like at various times of the day. He picks a subject and then decides when the best light for shooting it would be. I've never tried it but it could be useful to you. Your baja paintings always deal with light and shadows.
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[*] posted on 12-12-2011 at 11:15 AM
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Thank Igor... I don't have a lap top (yet), but great info!


OMG !!!! Guess you go down like in the old days... do ya lack a cell phone too ?? ... :lol::lol::lol: .. how did we make in 40 or 50 years ago ..

Use a lap top, with an antenna and some mapping software that worked pretty cool.. combined with using Google Earth, Garmin GPS handheld and the laptop... it is my job as navigator ..

Have recently gotten the Garmin Nevi ... which is really pretty good.. I must say .. like having the "view" right in front of you and they now have very detailed maps of all of Mexico with border towns too ... I've got more mapping stuff than I need, but it really is fun to really preplan your routes... and see the routes via Google Earth ... before ya leave the house ... amazing stuff we have today :):)




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[*] posted on 12-12-2011 at 12:02 PM


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My route south from El Barrill along the coast to the Hwy 1 past San Ignacio was found, driven and tracked with this great setup.

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Did you do this in a 4 wheel vehicle?
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[*] posted on 12-12-2011 at 12:20 PM


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Nice technique Skipjack. My favorite is still the full size topos but the two working together could help in some of the nether regions of the outback---especially where the Yucca harvesters have carved in all kinds of networks of confusing roads...


Mexitron, have you seen this?

http://www.sierenphotography.com/gallery/11413278_7bVVA#802214548_qdJfk

This professional landscape photographer uses Google Earth to visualize what the lighting will look like at various times of the day. He picks a subject and then decides when the best light for shooting it would be. I've never tried it but it could be useful to you. Your baja paintings always deal with light and shadows.


Nice! :light:
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[*] posted on 12-12-2011 at 12:48 PM


Cool link Skipjack..



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[*] posted on 12-12-2011 at 06:06 PM


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Quote:
Originally posted by Fernweh

My route south from El Barrill along the coast to the Hwy 1 past San Ignacio was found, driven and tracked with this great setup.

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Did you do this in a 4 wheel vehicle?
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[*] posted on 12-12-2011 at 06:13 PM


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Quote:
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My route south from El Barrill along the coast to the Hwy 1 past San Ignacio was found, driven and tracked with this great setup.

Karl



Did you do this in a 4 wheel vehicle?


Yes, I did....both ways.

Very cool trip, next time I might take some company - dinner time is more fun.







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[*] posted on 12-12-2011 at 07:05 PM


The squarecircle has been wanting to show me Los Corrales and I have yet to see the coast between San Francisquito and Santa Rosalia.

Thank you for the photos (and any more... perhaps in its own trip reports thread?)!




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[*] posted on 12-12-2011 at 08:40 PM


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The squarecircle has been wanting to show me Los Corrales and I have yet to see the coast between San Francisquito and Santa Rosalia.


I'd like to check this area out, too. I didn't find El Barril interesting, but I am sure there are some good Jeeping opportunities in this region. I plan on upgrading my tires soon, so maybe I can keep up with you guys.




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[*] posted on 12-12-2011 at 08:55 PM


This is how my set-up with Google Earth, my tiny GPS receiver and that GPS for GE looks like.

Very nice and sharp GE satellite map, my earlier traced (in Los Angeles) route and my realtime position (circle).

Too bad, my route ended at the chicken cube of Rancho San Carlos and didn't continue to Playa Santa Ana - I had to turn around.

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[*] posted on 12-12-2011 at 09:10 PM


That's good to have in the backcountry where no streetsigns exist. Thanks for the information, because I am always thinking about upgrading to GPS technology while out in the Baja desert.



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[*] posted on 12-12-2011 at 09:21 PM


Thanks for the cool input Fernweh ... :):)



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[*] posted on 12-12-2011 at 10:06 PM


Good tip. Just curious, why use this method over GPS and a map? Much easier, though a little more expensive. The days of no Baja Maps are long gone. I even made my own Garmin topo map based on the INEGI information, and for a long time was the best thing out there. Now, there are several good ones out there, that will give you real-time information.

Just askin'.

[Edited on 12-13-2011 by Roberto]
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[*] posted on 12-12-2011 at 10:49 PM


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Good tip. Just curious, why use this method over GPS and a map? Much easier, though a little more expensive. The days of no Baja Maps are long gone. I even made my own Garmin topo map based on the INEGI information, and for a long time was the best thing out there. Now, there are several good ones out there, that will give you real-time information.

Just askin'.

[Edited on 12-13-2011 by Roberto]


Roberto,

we do search the Google Earth images for weeks at a time and find interesting places, long before we even go out there and try to drive the trails. A map will only give you the published info, while we look at the topo formations and then zoom in or turn our view points in different angles and have found tracks and trails worth further exploration.

I do carry a number of Baja maps, like different issues of the almanac or the Bici maps on my Garmin handheld GPS with me - plus always a compass, but most important, a joyful pain in my chest for adventurous travel to far away places - Fernweh

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[*] posted on 12-13-2011 at 11:56 AM


That is what I enjoy... and when you come to a fork in the road... you take it!:lol:



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Fernweh------------I am totally blown away!!! You say you traversed the coastal country between El Barril and the paved highway into Santa Rosalia/San Ignacio in a 4-wheel drive????? I explored that Country south of El Barril several years ago, trying to get to Los Corrales in our F-250 pickup and gave up. In talking to the local Rancheros we were lead to believe that motorcycles could get thru south of Los Corrales, but it was very difficult for them. Here you say you drove your Mecedes 4x4 thru--------that is incredible. Never heard of that being accomplished before. I sure would like to hear some of the reports from THAT trip--------I really did not think it possible, based on what I had been told.

I applaud you---------the area south of El Barril is some of the most beautiful and remote left in all of Baja--------we spent a week prowling around down there years ago with our Baja camper, and a Isuzu Trooper. Bravo!!!! to you. :yes::o:yes:

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Fernweh------------I am totally blown away!!! You say you traversed the coastal country between El Barril and the paved highway into Santa Rosalia/San Ignacio in a 4-wheel drive????? I explored that Country south of El Barril several years ago, trying to get to Los Corrales in our F-250 pickup and gave up. In talking to the local Rancheros we were lead to believe that motorcycles could get thru south of Los Corrales, but it was very difficult for them. Here you say you drove your Mecedes 4x4 thru--------that is incredible. Never heard of that being accomplished before. I sure would like to hear some of the reports from THAT trip--------I really did not think it possible, based on what I had been told.

I applaud you---------the area south of El Barril is some of the most beautiful and remote left in all of Baja--------we spent a week prowling around down there years ago with our Baja camper, and a Isuzu Trooper. Bravo!!!! to you. :yes::o:yes:

Barry


Thank you Barry,

I had spend weeks looking on Google Earth, and then finally in 2010 after visiting a Longitude/Latitude confluence south of Chivato, a good friend and I started that adventure from the South (Hwy1). Unfortunately, I could not complete the trip and had to turn around, my copilot had to back at work.
A few weeks later - I just had to do it - after visiting Santa Gertrudis, I drove the entire route South from El Barril to the Hwy1.

I'm a bit hesitant with a trip report.....
>the area south of El Barril is some of the most beautiful and remote left in all of Baja<

I rather meet a small group of folks and take them there.

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[*] posted on 12-13-2011 at 04:58 PM


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Fernweh------------I am totally blown away!!! You say you traversed the coastal country between El Barril and the paved highway into Santa Rosalia/San Ignacio in a 4-wheel drive????? I explored that Country south of El Barril several years ago, trying to get to Los Corrales in our F-250 pickup and gave up. In talking to the local Rancheros we were lead to believe that motorcycles could get thru south of Los Corrales, but it was very difficult for them. Here you say you drove your Mecedes 4x4 thru--------that is incredible. Never heard of that being accomplished before. I sure would like to hear some of the reports from THAT trip--------I really did not think it possible, based on what I had been told.

I applaud you---------the area south of El Barril is some of the most beautiful and remote left in all of Baja--------we spent a week prowling around down there years ago with our Baja camper, and a Isuzu Trooper. Bravo!!!! to you. :yes::o:yes:

Barry


Thank you Barry,

I had spend weeks looking on Google Earth, and then finally in 2010 after visiting a Longitude/Latitude confluence south of Chivato, a good friend and I started that adventure from the South (Hwy1). Unfortunately, I could not complete the trip and had to turn around, my copilot had to back at work.
A few weeks later - I just had to do it - after visiting Santa Gertrudis, I drove the entire route South from El Barril to the Hwy1.

I'm a bit hesitant with a trip report.....
>the area south of El Barril is some of the most beautiful and remote left in all of Baja<

I rather meet a small group of folks and take them there.

Karl


I would be game for that! If things work out, could be at San Rafael, San Francisquito or El Barril on Jan. 2 or 3!:bounce:

One of your photos almost appears to be the El Camino Real north of Rancho Rosarito (north of the Santa Marta road)? In following Kacey Smith motorcycle route between El Barril and San Ignacio, she did use some of the Jesuit road... and other motorcycle riders have as well (between Santa Gertrudis and San Ignacio).

Great stuff!!:bounce::bounce::cool:




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