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Iflyfish
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Interesting discussion.
It is a fact that more lives have been saved over the time of human existance by improved sanitation than all of the medicine ever developed.
It is also true that humans respond to crisis and regulation of something generally does not occur until a major tragedy happens and the need for some
form of regulation becomes obvious.
I have noticed in my travels throughout Mexico, mainland and Baja, that hand sanitation has improved since the Swine Flu outbreak. Notice that alcohol
gel is now everywhere in Mexico.
I remember the very year that plastic bags were introduced into Mexico and the next year they were scattered like sand accross the landscape. There is
only now some dawning awareness of the pollution and problems these bags create. Change happens over time, sometimes a very LONG time, but the only
constant is change.
Very interesting discussion of freedom/regulation in this thread. I too feel freedom in Mexico that I don't feel here but there are indeed trade offs.
Iflyfish
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EnsenadaDr
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Mood: Move on. It is just a chapter in the past, but don't close the book- just turn the page
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No change until disaster happens...
Yes, I agree, but what about the smallpox pandemic, which from 1520-1527 killed millions of native inhabitants of Mexico. Introduced at Veracruz with
the arrival of Panfilo de Narvaez on April 23, 1520 & was credited with the victory of Cortes over the Aztec empire at Tenochtitlan (present-day
Mexico City) in 1521. It killed the Inca ruler, Huayna Capac, & 200,000 others & destroys the Incan Empire. You would have thought they would
have learned a long time ago. Quote: | Originally posted by Iflyfish
Interesting discussion. It is a fact that more lives have been saved over the time of human existance by improved sanitation than all of the medicine
ever developed.
It is also true that humans respond to crisis and regulation of something generally does not occur until a major tragedy happens and the need for some
form of regulation becomes obvious.
I have noticed in my travels throughout Mexico, mainland and Baja, that hand sanitation has improved since the Swine Flu outbreak. Notice that alcohol
gel is now everywhere in Mexico.
I remember the very year that plastic bags were introduced into Mexico and the next year they were scattered like sand accross the landscape. There is
only now some dawning awareness of the pollution and problems these bags create. Change happens over time, sometimes a very LONG time, but the only
constant is change.
Very interesting discussion of freedom/regulation in this thread. I too feel freedom in Mexico that I don't feel here but there are indeed trade offs.
Iflyfish |
[Edited on 1-15-2012 by EnsenadaDr]
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Iflyfish
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Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Yes, I agree, but what about the bubonic plague, which from 1520-1527 killed millions of native inhabitants of Mexico. Introduced at Veracruz with the
arrival of Panfilo de Narvaez on April 23, 1520 & was credited with the victory of Cortes over the Aztec empire at Tenochtitlan (present-day
Mexico City) in 1521. It killed the Inca ruler, Huayna Capac, & 200,000 others & destroys the Incan Empire. You would have thought they would
have learned a long time ago. Quote: | Originally posted by Iflyfish
Interesting discussion. It is a fact that more lives have been saved over the time of human existance by improved sanitation than all of the medicine
ever developed.
It is also true that humans respond to crisis and regulation of something generally does not occur until a major tragedy happens and the need for some
form of regulation becomes obvious.
I have noticed in my travels throughout Mexico, mainland and Baja, that hand sanitation has improved since the Swine Flu outbreak. Notice that alcohol
gel is now everywhere in Mexico.
I remember the very year that plastic bags were introduced into Mexico and the next year they were scattered like sand accross the landscape. There is
only now some dawning awareness of the pollution and problems these bags create. Change happens over time, sometimes a very LONG time, but the only
constant is change.
Very interesting discussion of freedom/regulation in this thread. I too feel freedom in Mexico that I don't feel here but there are indeed trade offs.
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You are correct about the plague, killed nearly half of Europe also. It of course wasn't the Conquestadores who brought the plague, it was the fleas
on the rats that rode on the ships that brought this devistation to the New World.
At the time no one knew that rats carried this dread disease, in fact the germ theory had not yet been conceptualized. The Gods were mostly blamed,
sanitation or vector control was not even a consideration.
I am not discounting the importance of medicine for the treatment of disease. I am alive today because of the miracle of modern medical practice. I am
saying that when they learn how to keep mosquitos from carrying malaria and dengue fever, then the millions who die from it will be around to join
this discussion.
I appreciate your thoughful posts.
Iflyfish
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ElCazadorAZ
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EnsenadaDR: Have you contacted the owners of Papas & Beer regarding the glaring safety hazard? The local police and health authorities? Are you
delegating that to someone here on BN? Please tell us: What exactly is your point? H
"If we're all thinking alike, somebody's not thinking." Gen. George S. Patton
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