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goldhuntress
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I was involved in a car accident in Ensenada a while back and I did have to follow the police to the station and did see a judge there and got fined
$20. I can't remember who I gave the money to. They did not leave me in a room waiting for the judge they took me to his office and he was there
waiting. I think if it was a real judge he would have an office with a desk and files and other things that go along with being a judge. And he was
about 50 years old.
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wessongroup
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Good point Oddjob... as many seemed NOT to follow posted speed limits IMHO ..
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
If the posts about knife laws are true, sounds like this wasn't a rip-off, but maybe someone got lucky they did not go to jail.
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This is correct.
This story has some gaps but this is what I see.
It's possible the victim was not speeding and police stopped to scam him. He chose to argue his innocence.
Police search his vehicle, find knifes, and definitely want a fine paid. I think that could have been handled on the spot and the amount
negotiated.
At that point, I would have negotiated to keep the knifes, and pay a fine for the police finding them.
I would not go to a police station or see a judge if I could help it.
I think this situation could have had a more positive ending, and less expensive. The fine could have been $500 or $50. That depends on the
negotiating skills of the victim.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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wessongroup
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Was coming back from Cabo once ... checking my stuff to board to go back... found a buck knife in my diddy bag... told them to "keep the knife" and
boarded the plane ...
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larryC
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Well, maybe the Tecate cops are just trying not to be outdone. Here is what is happening to Mexicans in Conneticut. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/police-chief-retires-connect...
Maybe we don't have much to complain about.
Larry
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DavidE
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Regardless!
Here is an example of something that should be processed through SINDACATURA, and the ministerio publico with Baja California Tourism officials
looking on. It does no good whatsoever to fork over money like this. If it happened to me, I would have upped the stakes by telling them to put me in
jail. The penalty for possessing a LOADED FIREARM* in the cab of a pickup is less than 5,000 pesos! False imprisonment in Mexico is a delito federal,
and a cop will go to prison for a year if they falsely accuse someone. He'll have a cell mate, the judge.
*with firearm permit
Wanna bet that the names of the interested parties are unknown? I still have the name after 5 years of a crooked cop David Gutierrez, who almost went
to jail because he accused me of something I did not do.
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norte
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David, its just another good reason to vacation in the good old USA,
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Marla Daily
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TECATE POLICE SCAMS
I understand the pain of the victim here. Having crossed at Tecate coming and going to Loreto for years without incident, as previously posted, we
were stopped on October 6 by a cop on the hill going down into Tecate on our way north. Our alleged infraction was dogs in the cab of the truck. The
cop wanted us to follow him to "the station." We politely refused.
On our very next trip on December 11 two cops on motorcycles stopped us at the top of the same hill. We were headed south this time, creeping along in
the slow lane with all cars passing us. This time two motorcycle cops in tandem pulled us over for allegedly speeding. Again they wanted us to follow
them to "the station." Again we politely refused.
In both instances we out-waited them and were ultimately let go. Something is foul in Tecate these days! No doubt about it.
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vgabndo
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Twice I have screwed up racing to the airport in Loreto and at the last second, with my baggage checked, realized I had my Leatherman Wave on my belt.
The ONLY problem for me was finding someone who would personally hold my knife for me. In one case an Alaska person put it in their desk until I
returned the next day, and another time, the pilot held it for me until we deplaned in LA. Sure didn't seem illegal to any of them!
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Lee
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I'm amazed that more nomads aren't stepping up and giving an option, alternative, or half-hearted advice to the victim in this post.
He probably wasn't speeding, if that was the ruse for the traffic stop.
The other issue would be the knifes found in his camper, and the threats of jail at the jailhouse by the ''judge.''
If ordered by a Mexican law enforcement officer to follow him to the ''jail,'' and refusing, I'm guessing that that is in itself a traffic violation.
No help here for those passing through Tecate?
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F*ck it.
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TecateRay
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Several friends were followed by local police last Saturday morning. All were experienced Tecate travelers and watched their speed. One was stopped
and eventually ended up paying a $10 "fine" on the spot.
It has happened to me as well and it is a shame that Tecate is becoming the new "Ciudad Constitution".
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akshadow
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I still wonder why he was buying a knife in the states to give to someone in Loreto? Are locking knives available for purchase in Baja? From
original post
"When he opened the door on the driver's side, he searched around and found two pocket knives, the locking kind, that I had bought for a Mexican
friend I was going to see in Loreto."
I have often had people tell me about having a knife as being illegal but had never heard of a person being held for having one in their vehicle. I
must remember to pt them in the back of the truck.
Ron San Felipe Oct, Nov. Feb. Mar. April. remainder in Juneau Ak
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TecateRay
It has happened to me as well and it is a shame that Tecate is becoming the new "Ciudad Constitution". |
Yeah...it does seem to be that way. Also...this routine of taking people to the station to finish them off with fear is a new twist. It kind of
implicates the whole police establishment in Tecate as working in concert to shake down tourists.
Perhaps it's again time to start a campaign against armed extortion as Iflyfish/Rick did for Cd. Constitución. I can't help but believe that had a
positive effect on the out of control problem there.
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mcfez
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appeared to be ?
My wife and I followed the Police pick-up truck a few blocks to what appeared to be a police station.
Let me just point out that it's obvious when one walks into a Police Station. I question this statement deeply . I mean...did they march into a big ol
store front or something? A small town station has distinct reality to them. Really....I think a true Police Station would be easy to say......"it
was" and not "appeared to be".
Sounds like a few thugs putting together a scam. Were the police cars even real?
[Edited on 2-3-2012 by mcfez]
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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rts551
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I guess no one is considering that the police legitimately enforced the law?
I think you guys aught to roar through Tecate, and then demand your rights when stopped. Oh and make sure you have a nice, big knife with you...
hey maybe an open beer or two... Complain really hard how you are being scammed!
Hey anyone really know the facts in this situation?
signed...only pass through Tecate and been doin it for more than 30 years
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gallesram
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rts551, you raise a legitimate issue about whether the police were truly enforcing the law because of a violation. The problem is, there is so much
history of people getting pulled over simply because they have US or Canadian plates OR they're driving a rental car that the legitimate stops seem
few and far between.
I get pulled over in Acapulco at least 2 or 3 times during a week stay (just happened last month); it's always the same scam. I have learned that if
you really want to push things, you have to have your own house in order: you can't speed, you can't push the traffic laws, and you certainly can't
be drinking or have weapons in the vehicle. If you do, then you give up your right to push back. But if you don't, then you should never pay a
mordida since it just perpetuates the problem.
I passed a truck in Santa Rosalia once in an area where I probably shouldn't have and was pulled over by a cop who saw me do it. In that
circumstance, I did pay a "fine" since I had violated the traffic laws and we both knew it. When I haven't violated the traffic laws, we also both
know it and there's no way I'll pay anything.
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Fred
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I will be coming thru on Monday the 20th. Will report trip.
Fred
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larryC
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Most likely you will have nothing to report, (I hope) as it is with most who travel through Tecate. The few unlucky ones have stories.
Larry
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J.P.
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Had to make a quick turnaround to the states yesterday through Tecate, we didnt see any police, but we did notice All the NEW stop signs. You wont be
able to say you didn't see them any more.
As a side note there was a lot of construction activity in the areas where the Improvement's continue.
we got a new rock chip in our windshield that makes it two for two.
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TecateRay
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
I guess no one is considering that the police legitimately enforced the law?
I think you guys aught to roar through Tecate, and then demand your rights when stopped. Oh and make sure you have a nice, big knife with you...
hey maybe an open beer or two... Complain really hard how you are being scammed!
Hey anyone really know the facts in this situation?
signed...only pass through Tecate and been doin it for more than 30 years |
I know the facts of my personal experiences with the police there. I used to pay little heed to the speed signs - and I paid for it! I learned my
lesson and let traffic back up behind me or speed past me now as I drive the posted speed limits. I have twice been stopped and told I had to go the
police station - both times I said I would go, once I out waited them and had my license returned with no money exchanged, the other time I followed
them for about two blocks before they pulled over and returned my license "so they could respond to an emergency call".
From my personal experience and first hand accounts related by friends it appears to me to be a continuing problem in Tecate. Not all the time, not
everyday, but often enough to be worth noting.
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