A Machete carried by a Mex National would probably
be considered a tool, if carried by a Gringo, probably
a weapon. Have heard if carrying a bat, put a glove
and ball with it. Remember reading flare guns are
legal if you have a boat? Hell's Angeles NOB carry
on their person ball ping hammers, considered
a tool. Who said confusing, Immigration Regs, Fishing
Regs, Traffic Regs all clear as mud, I guess we all
know there are Regs for Mexican locals and the
rest of us P-nche Gringos
C'mon folks. Coming across a gringo with a chickensheit pocket knife in his car is nothing more than a bonus for a cop. Why try to blow this thing
out of proportion?
Letter of the law??? Spirit of the law??? Was the law [if there is one] written with this type of offense in mind??? I think not.
Avoid beating yourself up with guilt, remorse and future caution over the possession of something no more threatening than a fingernail clipper. You
only open the door for more official creativity.
"What??? You have wire cutters?? You must be stealing copper CFE wire. You're guilty. Gimme dinero."
Originally posted by larryC
Maderita
Have you seen the actual Mexican weapons laws? I have not but would like to. The word "weapon" is very ambiguous. A knife could certainly be
considered a weapon, but a screwdriver is a tool, until it is held over your head and pointed at another person. I just wonder how the law is written
and how they define a weapon.
Larry
Originally posted by wessongroup
The wife carries a machete, pepper spray and a stun gun when walking the dogs .. NOB or South .... we also carried "stun guns" along with the machete
in the car and got inspected a numerous times.. with no problems... even got laughs out of the military when showing them how I would use it to defend
myself... they let me and the wife go every time... individually or when together ... used to carry a buck knife.. .but don't anymore... couldn't use
it if I wanted to .. in a fight
Tell the little lady not to drop the dog leash Wiley! This poor sucker got tased by a park ranger in CA. yikes!
Park ranger shoots man with stun gun for walking dogs off-leash
A California man walking his two small dogs off-leash was arrested after a park ranger used her stun gun on him. The San Francisco Chronicle reports
that Gary Hesterberg was walking his two small dogs inside Rancho Corral de Tierra, which was recently incorporated into the Golden Gate National
Recreation Area. For years, the park has been a refuge for owners who let their dogs run off-leash. However, all national parks have on-leash laws.
"It was really scary," said Michelle Babc-ck, who said she witnessed the incident as she and her husband were walking their own dogs. "I just felt so
bad for him." The unnamed park ranger reportedly confronted Hesterberg about his dogs. Hesterberg, who said he wasn't carrying his wallet at the
time, allegedly gave a false name. The ranger asked him to remain at the scene but Hesterberg instead attempted to leave before he was shot in the
back with the taser.
Babc-ck said Hesterberg had repeatedly asked the ranger why he was being detained. "He just tried to walk away. She never gave him a reason," Babc-ck
said. After Hesterberg left the scene, the ranger"pursued him a little bit and she did deploy her" electric-shock weapon, said parks service spokesman
Howard Levitt. "That did stop him." Hesterberg was then arrested on suspicion of failing to obey a lawful order, having dogs off-leash and knowingly
providing false information, Levitt said. He was later released. "We were like in disbelief," she said. "It didn't make any sense," Babc-ck said.
[Edited on 1-31-2012 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
Don't think she will give them up... she used the stun gun in O'Neil's this past year on a Mountain Lion ... Just the noise was enough to scare the
cat away .... she's not much on running ... from just about anything ...
yeah, those guys are still around .. even in Cleland National Forest ...
Hola,that happens a lot at ca state parks,,fricken N-zi's and you should ck-out the automatic weapon the state rangers have in the truck,,Holy chit
!!! 4 0R 5 years ago on a state beach, a ranger shot a killed a 10 year old girls puppy in front of her ,on a beach in santa cruz...Oh,, and get this
the 3 month yellow lab pup was " threatening the ranger" and not being on the leash !! I would have sued,sued, sued, had that been my pup,or
daughter..K&T
To the best of my knowledge, both Federal and State RANGERS have had semi-automatic rifles, and shotguns, for at least 30 years--------Automatic
weapons I have never seen or heard of in Ranger vehs, but maybe. Crime is crime, and the Rangers run into it too, so why would they NOT be armed
accordingly???
People are sooooo funny about the things that upset them. Think what you want (of course), but Cops/Rangers are NOT paid to be open targets with no
protection for their's, and others, safety, which includes being bitten by dogs.
Originally posted by norte
go for it. Sue em..it's the Amreican way!
To not obey a lawful order is a crime-------to resist an officer is another crime-------it builds and builds and builds-------which is why I always
taught my kids to totally comply with an officers command with no back talk------PERIOD. That works!!!
Sort it all out later, in the courts if you like, but it may get expensive if you lose you case.
Originally posted by yellowklr
Yeah for years I keep all my fillet knifes in the bed of the truck and out of the cab.....For protection I have a real nice tire iron and breaker bar.
I carry a Old Spud Bar in my tool box being a Iron Worker it's a tool of the trade and it makes a wicked wepon.
Been carrying an old machete right by the driver's seat and every soldier, IMMS officer looks at it puts it back , smiles and gives me the OK sign.
Been up and down the peninsula 3 times from La paz to Tecate 3 times in the last 14 months, 32 military stops, two stops at the border. The only thing
they were interested in was a box that had a stetson given to me by friends in TExas.
It's clearly a tool- I use it from time to time to chop brush, tree limbs etc, and it's old--I never worry about it and have three filet knives in the
tool box in the back and nobody has ever looked in it. They also are very well used and are also clearly tools.
TITLE I CRIMES COLLECTIVE SECURITY AGAINST THE RISK
CHAPTER I Carrying, manufacture, importation and possession of firearms BANNED:
Article 245 .- Type .- For Purposes of This Code Prohibited weapons are: I. - The daggers, knives, stiletto and other weapons hidden or concealed in
walking sticks or other objects: II .- The boxes, brass knuckles, clubs, slings, belts with bullets, weights or points and Otherwise similar.
Article 246 .- Will punishable .- a month to three years in apply prison and fine up to one hundred days; Reform I. - When carrying a weapon from the
previous article in Those. II .- Whoever Lawful Without a purpose or Without a permit, weapons collection Mentioned in the preceding doeth article,
and Which the import, manufacture, sell or give away. In all cases included in this article, as well as confiscate the weapons are Sanctions.
ARTICLE 246 BIS .- .- exclusive of punitive Claims Will result in the exclusion of punitive claim, the carrier reliably verify Which That the
instruments, tools or Covered by Article 245, are Used in the work home, field or in Any trade, profession or sporting activity, But Must STI limited
to local use, route or area in Which the holder or devote Itself Perform Such Activities.
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