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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 03:18 PM


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Just took this out of Wanderglobe's BCN thread above to illustrate the problem area:



the open trench in middle of the street is a nice touch, authentic mexican experience! :lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 03:20 PM


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the open trench in middle of the street is a nice touch, authentic mexican experience! :lol::lol:



I think it's a mass grave. :o
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 03:48 PM


I think they are trying to aerate the sewer:?:



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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 04:53 PM


....open air bathroom for drunks maybe....:(
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 05:16 PM


Geez. As someone who has often made the drive out to La Buf for the afternoon, just to enjoy the crazy environment, I really have to consider that this whole thing may really be about a business dispute between the cruise lines and the tour operator over money. Face it. Cruise passengers arriving at Ensenada don't exactly have a plethora of shore excursions to choose from.

The experience of walking down to the blowhole from the parking lot would seem to me to be a fun experience for most of the tourists. Sure, many merchants are somewhat aggressive, but, to me, that's part of the fun.

I'm betting that this is a shakedown of a local tour operator by the big cruise lines. Guess we'll see.

[Edited on 3-6-2012 by Bajahowodd]
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 05:40 PM
Turnip truck tourists.


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Too many tourists felt ripped-off by the local businessmen and the businesses selling counterfeit goods as genuine.


There's obviously a serious disconnect when tourists pay considerably less for name brand merchandise yet expect it not to be counterfeit.

Do they think it's stolen, instead? ;D




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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 05:56 PM


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Do they think it's stolen, instead? ;D


Could be. There is, however, a story on the street that they make Churros out of lint. :o
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 06:04 PM


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Too many tourists felt ripped-off by the local businessmen and the businesses selling counterfeit goods as genuine. It's hard to build tourism when the locals are working against you. So now they can sell nothing to no one. Pretty soon cruise lines will just pass by Mexico ports of call and let the passengers wave to shore- or they will build their own shore excursion "villages" as they do elsewhere. Too bad for La Bufadora, but no one to blame but themselves.

http://sintesistv.info/v2/noticias/ensenada/14240-2-lineas-n...

"Two cruise lines will suspend tours to La Bufadora in Ensenada after complaints by the visitors that they felt cheated by some businessmen......................more

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Selling counterfeit goods as genuine......is a very common sight if one should go to New York City as we did. It's all over the place. Same goes for San Francisco......it's a joke. I suspect there is way more to this story that meets the eye.....for NY and SF has not experienced any cruise cancellations due to the merchants cheating the tourist.

Example here of NY
http://dottie1.hubpages.com/hub/Top-Selling-Counterfeit-Prod...

[Edited on 3-6-2012 by mcfez]




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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 06:23 PM
Caveat Tourista


Do the Cruise Lines warn the Tourists that the importation limit on Counterfeit items is (1) of each type every 30 days ?

An important rule to know.
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 06:31 PM


They do.....however ....on the ships we have been on....say something about fakes within the ports of call. Who reads all those table top pamphlets anyhow...your on vacation!



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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 06:34 PM


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Do the Cruise Lines warn the Tourists that the importation limit on Counterfeit items is (1) of each type every 30 days ?

An important rule to know.

Seriously? I did not know that. So you can buy a fake Rolex or Versace bag once a month? Really? That's OK?
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 06:56 PM


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So you can buy a fake Rolex ? That's OK?
:?::?::?::?:



I bought a Rolex at the Bufadora Mall. We call it a RolMex. I mean....it was only twenty bucks and it's still tickin' after ten years.
I'm thinking of selling it, so let me know if you think you can afford a classy time piece. :cool:
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 07:30 PM
After hardcore 4 Wheeling in the Baja, my Wife chooses the Bufadora each time!


Whenever my Wife and I visit the Ensenada area, she **LOVES** to visit La Bufadora!


This region is gorgeous!:yes:



All to ourselves (in late November '11) before the first Tourist Bus arrived.


Postcards for all of her Amigas (and family in Colombia!)..in fact, the best postcards can be found here at La Bufadora.



La Bufadora is still on our "Must Visit" list of Baja attractions.




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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 07:36 PM


I would join the Cruise lines and think they would get more support if they bargined for a better road leading to the Blow Hole:yes::yes::yes:
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 07:37 PM


We like going out there too, but you MUST get there before the buses arrive, for sure. Go early and enjoy watching them setup and hardly any people around. Pleanty of seating for that early Margarita too!
As soon as the very first bus arrives, it's time to go.;D




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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 07:51 PM


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So you can buy a fake Rolex ? That's OK?
:?::?::?::?:



I bought a Rolex at the Bufadora Mall. We call it a RolMex. I mean....it was only twenty bucks and it's still tickin' after ten years.
I'm thinking of selling it, so let me know if you think you can afford a classy time piece. :cool:


I had a buddy ask me to buy a "RolMex" submariner for him a few years ago. He's in a jazz band and wanted to show off for the ladies. I got hit for $120 in TJ though. Other than the sweep of the second hand and the weight- it is very hard to tell it from a real one. He loved it. But I though importing counterfeit goods was illegal?




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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 07:58 PM
Good advice!


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We like going out there too, but you MUST get there before the buses arrive, for sure. Go early and enjoy watching them setup and hardly any people around. Pleanty of seating for that early Margarita too!
As soon as the very first bus arrives, it's time to go.;D


Parking is no problem before 10 AM.


During setup (at approx. 10 AM)




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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 10:16 PM
Faking It


The Newspaper article I read a few years back on the "Fake" allowance pointed out that the exemption allowance is NOT because the Feds want to be nice to the returning Touristas, BUT because THEY (CBP) often have a difficult time figuring out what's real or not and, therefore, take the easy way out.

An interesting Irony also pointed out in that article was that the more inferior the Counterfeit, the more likely it would be seized on the theory that YOU should have "Known" it was Counterfeit.

Seems a little backwards, but ..........whatever works out.
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 10:20 PM


Well Roberto...if you read the post I did...you'll wouldn't be asking this troll question. Please...this isn't the Off Topics or the Fulano site. Express your views and so be it.


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Too many tourists felt ripped-off by the local businessmen and the businesses selling counterfeit goods as genuine. It's hard to build tourism when the locals are working against you. So now they can sell nothing to no one. Pretty soon cruise lines will just pass by Mexico ports of call and let the passengers wave to shore- or they will build their own shore excursion "villages" as they do elsewhere. Too bad for La Bufadora, but no one to blame but themselves.

http://sintesistv.info/v2/noticias/ensenada/14240-2-lineas-n...

"Two cruise lines will suspend tours to La Bufadora in Ensenada after complaints by the visitors that they felt cheated by some businessmen......................more

T

Selling counterfeit goods as genuine......is a very common sight if one should go to New York City as we did. It's all over the place. Same goes for San Francisco......it's a joke. I suspect there is way more to this story that meets the eye.....for NY and SF has not experienced any cruise cancellations due to the merchants cheating the tourist.

Example here of NY
http://dottie1.hubpages.com/hub/Top-Selling-Counterfeit-Prod...

[Edited on 3-6-2012 by mcfez]


And your point is? Is this more Mexico hate speech?


[Edited on 3-6-2012 by mcfez]




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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 10:35 PM


My wife and I have watched the businesses along Avenida Mateos suffer with the loss of cruise ship traffic, and hope the Ministry of Tourism decides to get a clue! Ensenada built itself up and redefined itself with the Royal Caribbean and Carnival cruise port, and cannot afford to be painted with the same anti-Mexico message that has plagued Matzatlan and now Puerto Vallarta. La Bufadora has been a joke for years, but the Mexican government needs to realize people from So Cal will stop the weekend cruises if the negative message keeps getting out. I can see Carnival doing 3 days cruises to San Clemente Island, rather than stopping in Ensenada. Lets face it, Gringos on cruises don't care they are going to Mexico - they want an excuse to drink on a ship for 3 days!
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