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[*] posted on 3-13-2012 at 01:40 PM


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Originally posted by desertcpl
but like it was said in some above posts,, Mexicans are really terrble about leaving there trash, I seen it here in Yuma at the River, they could care less



One thing I refuse to do; when some in the expat community gather together to clean a beach after a Mexican holiday....they can count me out. I didn't come down here to be anybody's janitor....or moral example.








" AINT THAT THE TRUTH":lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:



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[Edited on 3-13-2012 by DENNIS]
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[*] posted on 3-13-2012 at 01:51 PM
trash


hola,trash and butt's and beer cap's= bad new's,, but, who taught folk's to leave gosh darnn dieper's behind,,SICK !! pack it,,pack it out,,is that to much to teach your child ???? K&T:cool:
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[*] posted on 3-13-2012 at 01:58 PM


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Filthy litter?? My beer cans?? Shame on you and your elitist ways. There was one old man in Ensenada who followed me around for years catching my flying aluminum. He earned so much money that he branched off to other fields of commerce. Perhaps you've heard of him......Carlos Slim Helú??



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[*] posted on 3-13-2012 at 02:00 PM


I agree, I can tolerate about everything else - but those damn diapers!

Here in Lopez the litter pickers have been taking the plastic bottles lately, too.

And the metal and aluminum guys are always busy!
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[*] posted on 3-13-2012 at 02:01 PM


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From picking up D's beer cans to a Billionaire?
Where do I apply?



Just follow me. :lol:
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[*] posted on 3-13-2012 at 03:09 PM


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but like it was said in some above posts,, Mexicans are really terrble about leaving there trash, I seen it here in Yuma at the River, they could care less


I agree. Some [not all] are. The younger, better educated folks are well aware of the proper methods of trash disposal and have a peer group to answer to.
That said.....one of life's great teachers has yet to enter the scene in Mexico....a cop with a big, fat ticket book for litterers. That will train a person's conscience in short order. Until that time, we just have to accept what it is.

One thing I refuse to do; when some in the expat community gather together to clean a beach after a Mexican holiday....they can count me out. I didn't come down here to be anybody's janitor....or moral example.



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I totally agree with this statement, I think there was a discussion here on Nomads a few months back, about the beaches in down town San felipe, the expats was wanting other gringos to rally around the effort to clean up the beaches, and not only that was wanting donations for trash bags
I dont think so
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[*] posted on 3-13-2012 at 03:39 PM


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Off the SF site, hope it is credited correctly,
this last weekend's 250 race, and the litter
left by spectators, Gringo trash or otherwise,
not a good representation, but probably not
Baja Afficianado's
http://sanfelipe.com.mx/2012/03/13/and-now-to-clean-up-the-m...


I just saw the article using your link... and it does NOT say "Gringo trash".

In fact, if you ever witness an off road race in Baja where 'locals' come to watch... THEY leave all their garbage, beer bottles, and baby diapers in the desert. Gringos for the most part are good stewards of the region and pack out what they bring in (and more if they have room).

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lol.gif posted on 3-13-2012 at 03:46 PM
it takes a village (and villages that tolerate cranks)


Quote:
Originally posted by desertcpl
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by desertcpl
but like it was said in some above posts,, Mexicans are really terrble about leaving there trash, I seen it here in Yuma at the River, they could care less


I agree. Some [not all] are. The younger, better educated folks are well aware of the proper methods of trash disposal and have a peer group to answer to.
That said.....one of life's great teachers has yet to enter the scene in Mexico....a cop with a big, fat ticket book for litterers. That will train a person's conscience in short order. Until that time, we just have to accept what it is.

One thing I refuse to do; when some in the expat community gather together to clean a beach after a Mexican holiday....they can count me out. I didn't come down here to be anybody's janitor....or moral example.


I totally agree with this statement, I think there was a discussion here on Nomads a few months back, about the beaches in down town San felipe, the expats was wanting other gringos to rally around the effort to clean up the beaches, and not only that was wanting donations for trash bags
I dont think so


both of you sound like you moved to mexico for cheap living, to take from community, and return nothing to community,... correct? :?:
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[*] posted on 3-13-2012 at 03:53 PM
waste not want not


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Gringos for the most part are good stewards of the region and pack out what they bring in (and more if they have room).


it takes a village!

give a hoot, don't pollute!

take only pictures, leave only footprints!

earth day every day!

what would nature do?

reduce, reuse, recycle!
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[*] posted on 3-13-2012 at 04:06 PM


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Gringos for the most part are good stewards of the region and pack out what they bring in (and more if they have room).


it takes a village!

give a hoot, don't pollute!

take only pictures, leave only footprints!

earth day every day!

what would nature do?

reduce, reuse, recycle!


All those are great, Goat, except the "what would nature do" one-------we all know what "nature" is capable of, and it ain't always pretty-------witness the tornados in the mid-west lately, or the volcanoes in Indonesia and the Phillipeans, or the tsunami's in the last few years--------THAT is what "nature" does sometimes, and almost everything in it's path is essentially destroyed or changed radically.

Lets leave that little "saying" out of the list. :light:

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[*] posted on 3-13-2012 at 04:07 PM


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it takes a village!

give a hoot, don't pollute!

take only pictures, leave only footprints!

earth day every day!

what would nature do?

reduce, reuse, recycle!


:lol::lol: I'll bet you have a Winnie The Pooh tattoo...doncha. :lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 3-13-2012 at 04:18 PM


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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
it takes a village!

give a hoot, don't pollute!

take only pictures, leave only footprints!

earth day every day!

what would nature do?

reduce, reuse, recycle!


:lol::lol: I'll bet you have a Winnie The Pooh tattoo...doncha. :lol::lol:


i don't, but if i did i would flaunt it! dennis, you sound like you insecure about your masculinity
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[*] posted on 3-13-2012 at 04:24 PM


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i don't, but if i did i would flaunt it! dennis, you sound like you insecure about your masculinity


Nah...not a bit, but I'll leave the flaunting to you. I might even pay Fu to give you another Roto-Rooter session. Sounds like you're becoming impacted with yourself. :lol:
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[*] posted on 3-13-2012 at 04:46 PM


cant wait to hear from SF horns:rolleyes:
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[*] posted on 3-13-2012 at 05:01 PM
Here is how I desert camp...


With a trash bag or two hanging from my tire carrier!






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You're a good man, Ken, despite what people say. :lol:

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[*] posted on 3-13-2012 at 05:08 PM
Latinos and Americans are good land use stewards


Cohabuzo Junction campout

...before



...after



...Pole Line Road campout

...before


...after (notice the trash bags in use)





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[*] posted on 3-13-2012 at 05:56 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by desertcpl
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by desertcpl
but like it was said in some above posts,, Mexicans are really terrble about leaving there trash, I seen it here in Yuma at the River, they could care less


I agree. Some [not all] are. The younger, better educated folks are well aware of the proper methods of trash disposal and have a peer group to answer to.
That said.....one of life's great teachers has yet to enter the scene in Mexico....a cop with a big, fat ticket book for litterers. That will train a person's conscience in short order. Until that time, we just have to accept what it is.

One thing I refuse to do; when some in the expat community gather together to clean a beach after a Mexican holiday....they can count me out. I didn't come down here to be anybody's janitor....or moral example.


I totally agree with this statement, I think there was a discussion here on Nomads a few months back, about the beaches in down town San felipe, the expats was wanting other gringos to rally around the effort to clean up the beaches, and not only that was wanting donations for trash bags
I dont think so


both of you sound like you moved to mexico for cheap living, to take from community, and return nothing to community,... correct? :?:





actually I never had an opinion with you one way or the other

but now I can see why Dennis has issues with you, that is a butt head statement
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[*] posted on 3-13-2012 at 06:19 PM


okay. so the average mexican family brings a trash bag and packs it out. now what do they do with it?
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[*] posted on 3-13-2012 at 06:48 PM


Our group, friends,and family have been to many of the Baja race's We always haul out what we bring, plus more. I have taken extra trash bag's to hand out, help's a little. They need to Educate the local's that they dont have folk's picking up after them..I know the Score folk's are always reminding racers and pit crew's to pick up after them self's.. I for one try to let the fan's in our area pick up after them selfs, 90 percent our cool about it,,the others just play dumb,,thinking someone else will pick up for them,,Sorry for venting,,but were loseing the our clean Desert's,Oh;) yea we haul our trash back to San Diego, Coustoms wont even open the bags.
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